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medal 5005
1 year 335 days ago

Steven

Cole

Timothy

Dario

Timothy

Dario
These things should not cost money.



Really?  


Are you saying that developers should not be paid or have funding to do this???

If we can charge, one off, lesser amounts for each separate addition of these and a one off payment to implement them all.  Maybe that money can be tracked and used specifically for those upgeades.

If you want any to be developed, pay in advance for the work to be done.  Once it is done, you pay for general site maintenance.



Yes really. Most of what the post is asking for is standard stuff that most games have. I can't see anyone paying a subscription for this.



And, how, exactly, do you suggest that such improvements are paid for?  Those annoying adverts all over this quite excellently paced game (like a plague of general annoyance)?

1.  This game operates on a freemium model so none of the suggestions would fit that.  2.   No one should fund them since they are all dreadful ideas.





You hit the nail on the head Cole, but I do think there is one diamond in the rough which is custom points systems - which enough people are in favor of it becoming a free thing anyway

Probably the hardest to implement though


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medal 5000
1 year 335 days ago

Cole

Steven

Cole

Timothy

Dario

Timothy

Dario
These things should not cost money.



Really?  


Are you saying that developers should not be paid or have funding to do this???

If we can charge, one off, lesser amounts for each separate addition of these and a one off payment to implement them all.  Maybe that money can be tracked and used specifically for those upgeades.

If you want any to be developed, pay in advance for the work to be done.  Once it is done, you pay for general site maintenance.



Yes really. Most of what the post is asking for is standard stuff that most games have. I can't see anyone paying a subscription for this.



And, how, exactly, do you suggest that such improvements are paid for?  Those annoying adverts all over this quite excellently paced game (like a plague of general annoyance)?

1.  This game operates on a freemium model so none of the suggestions would fit that.  2.   No one should fund them since they are all dreadful ideas.





You hit the nail on the head Cole, but I do think there is one diamond in the rough which is custom points systems - which enough people are in favor of it becoming a free thing anyway

Probably the hardest to implement though





I agree with that point but I think it would really improve the game - but if it's hard to implement I'm OK with it being shelved for a while
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medal 6055
1 year 335 days ago
I shall shut up now, considering that I may have helped to take this too far down the rabbit hole.
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medal 5000
1 year 332 days ago

SA

El
That you can pay a monthly subscription of 5 o 10 euros and have benefits for the league. The payment of the subscription would be made by the league administrator.

Some benefits:

- Expand the number of divisions to a maximum of 5.

- Custom point system.

- The name of the league has a prominent color in the list of leagues

- A new league option. Save design points. (on or off)

- Possibility of uploading the league logo and making it visible in different places on the website.

1) "Expand the number of divisions to a maximum of 5." 
This certainly cannot be done.
How would people who are in these 2 more categories do? They could not change league. Think if the championship fails. What should they do ?? Spend to make a new league to get them to go into those categories ??Then there is already inactivity problems with 3 categories, let alone with 5. such a thing is unthinkable. Do not you think? So 2 more categories do it for all championships or for none and in any case it would not be the same advantageous.
2) The league logo doesn't make sense either. If you want to make the league logo you create a page on the league forum and post it, it just doesn't make sense in other places.
3) The only thing I support is the customizable points system.

1) It could be done and it should be done. There are too many leagues already and having more dedicated leagues and with hosts who are willing to pay a fee to have more players would solve this issue. There has been proposals to charge 500+ tokens to create a league, why is this any different.

2) It gives an advantage to paying hosts with extra visibility. I find the league logo in the league page to be equivalent to the extra benefits you can get in servers through subscriptions (like nitro for Discord). Same thing for the highlighted text on the league list.
3)The save design points feature would be helpful for many league hosts. Personally I’m not a fan, but if people are willing to pay a subscription then they should have the option to enable such feature.

Cole

Timothy

Dario

Timothy

Dario
These things should not cost money.



Really?  


Are you saying that developers should not be paid or have funding to do this???

If we can charge, one off, lesser amounts for each separate addition of these and a one off payment to implement them all.  Maybe that money can be tracked and used specifically for those upgeades.

If you want any to be developed, pay in advance for the work to be done.  Once it is done, you pay for general site maintenance.



Yes really. Most of what the post is asking for is standard stuff that most games have. I can't see anyone paying a subscription for this.



And, how, exactly, do you suggest that such improvements are paid for?  Those annoying adverts all over this quite excellently paced game (like a plague of general annoyance)?

1.  This game operates on a freemium model so none of the suggestions would fit that.  2.   No one should fund them since they are all dreadful ideas.



There is a point where a developer has to start making money. I’m grateful that this game hasn’t turned into pay-to-win garbage like many other freemium games, and if they have to implement this to earn some revenue then let it be. If you find it all dreadful then don’t subscribe. There are some more active, more noteworthy leagues who would want to increase their coverage, who would probably pay for this small subscription. I see no problem in that.
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medal 5974
1 year 332 days ago
Stephano

SA

El
That you can pay a monthly subscription of 5 o 10 euros and have benefits for the league. The payment of the subscription would be made by the league administrator.

Some benefits:

- Expand the number of divisions to a maximum of 5.

- Custom point system.

- The name of the league has a prominent color in the list of leagues

- A new league option. Save design points. (on or off)

- Possibility of uploading the league logo and making it visible in different places on the website.

1) "Expand the number of divisions to a maximum of 5." 
This certainly cannot be done.
How would people who are in these 2 more categories do? They could not change league. Think if the championship fails. What should they do ?? Spend to make a new league to get them to go into those categories ??Then there is already inactivity problems with 3 categories, let alone with 5. such a thing is unthinkable. Do not you think? So 2 more categories do it for all championships or for none and in any case it would not be the same advantageous.
2) The league logo doesn't make sense either. If you want to make the league logo you create a page on the league forum and post it, it just doesn't make sense in other places.
3) The only thing I support is the customizable points system.

1) It could be done and it should be done. There are too many leagues already and having more dedicated leagues and with hosts who are willing to pay a fee to have more players would solve this issue. There has been proposals to charge 500+ tokens to create a league, why is this any different.

2) It gives an advantage to paying hosts with extra visibility. I find the league logo in the league page to be equivalent to the extra benefits you can get in servers through subscriptions (like nitro for Discord). Same thing for the highlighted text on the league list.
3)The save design points feature would be helpful for many league hosts. Personally I’m not a fan, but if people are willing to pay a subscription then they should have the option to enable such feature.

Cole

Timothy

Dario

Timothy

Dario
These things should not cost money.



Really?  


Are you saying that developers should not be paid or have funding to do this???

If we can charge, one off, lesser amounts for each separate addition of these and a one off payment to implement them all.  Maybe that money can be tracked and used specifically for those upgeades.

If you want any to be developed, pay in advance for the work to be done.  Once it is done, you pay for general site maintenance.



Yes really. Most of what the post is asking for is standard stuff that most games have. I can't see anyone paying a subscription for this.



And, how, exactly, do you suggest that such improvements are paid for?  Those annoying adverts all over this quite excellently paced game (like a plague of general annoyance)?

1.  This game operates on a freemium model so none of the suggestions would fit that.  2.   No one should fund them since they are all dreadful ideas.



There is a point where a developer has to start making money. I’m grateful that this game hasn’t turned into pay-to-win garbage like many other freemium games, and if they have to implement this to earn some revenue then let it be. If you find it all dreadful then don’t subscribe. There are some more active, more noteworthy leagues who would want to increase their coverage, who would probably pay for this small subscription. I see no problem in that.



Whilst I agree you gotta do something to pay the bills, but the money is in cosmetics. I would happily pay money for helmet's, livery's etc. But I don't need to keep banging on about it I'm sure the Devs already know.
This is something I'm trying to push for but yet to get any response if it's in the works.
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medal 5000
1 year 332 days ago

Stephano

SA

El
That you can pay a monthly subscription of 5 o 10 euros and have benefits for the league. The payment of the subscription would be made by the league administrator.

Some benefits:

- Expand the number of divisions to a maximum of 5.

- Custom point system.

- The name of the league has a prominent color in the list of leagues

- A new league option. Save design points. (on or off)

- Possibility of uploading the league logo and making it visible in different places on the website.

1) "Expand the number of divisions to a maximum of 5." 
This certainly cannot be done.
How would people who are in these 2 more categories do? They could not change league. Think if the championship fails. What should they do ?? Spend to make a new league to get them to go into those categories ??Then there is already inactivity problems with 3 categories, let alone with 5. such a thing is unthinkable. Do not you think? So 2 more categories do it for all championships or for none and in any case it would not be the same advantageous.
2) The league logo doesn't make sense either. If you want to make the league logo you create a page on the league forum and post it, it just doesn't make sense in other places.
3) The only thing I support is the customizable points system.

1) It could be done and it should be done. There are too many leagues already and having more dedicated leagues and with hosts who are willing to pay a fee to have more players would solve this issue. There has been proposals to charge 500+ tokens to create a league, why is this any different.

2) It gives an advantage to paying hosts with extra visibility. I find the league logo in the league page to be equivalent to the extra benefits you can get in servers through subscriptions (like nitro for Discord). Same thing for the highlighted text on the league list.
3)The save design points feature would be helpful for many league hosts. Personally I’m not a fan, but if people are willing to pay a subscription then they should have the option to enable such feature.

Cole

Timothy

Dario

Timothy

Dario
These things should not cost money.



Really?  


Are you saying that developers should not be paid or have funding to do this???

If we can charge, one off, lesser amounts for each separate addition of these and a one off payment to implement them all.  Maybe that money can be tracked and used specifically for those upgeades.

If you want any to be developed, pay in advance for the work to be done.  Once it is done, you pay for general site maintenance.



Yes really. Most of what the post is asking for is standard stuff that most games have. I can't see anyone paying a subscription for this.



And, how, exactly, do you suggest that such improvements are paid for?  Those annoying adverts all over this quite excellently paced game (like a plague of general annoyance)?

1.  This game operates on a freemium model so none of the suggestions would fit that.  2.   No one should fund them since they are all dreadful ideas.



There is a point where a developer has to start making money. I’m grateful that this game hasn’t turned into pay-to-win garbage like many other freemium games, and if they have to implement this to earn some revenue then let it be. If you find it all dreadful then don’t subscribe. There are some more active, more noteworthy leagues who would want to increase their coverage, who would probably pay for this small subscription. I see no problem in that.


Stephano Leuzzi
SA LAZ
El Profesor NuñezThat you can pay a monthly subscription of 5 o 10 euros and have benefits for the league. The payment of the subscription would be made by the league administrator.

Some benefits:

- Expand the number of divisions to a maximum of 5.

- Custom point system.

- The name of the league has a prominent color in the list of leagues

- A new league option. Save design points. (on or off)

- Possibility of uploading the league logo and making it visible in different places on the website.

1) "Expand the number of divisions to a maximum of 5." 
This certainly cannot be done.
How would people who are in these 2 more categories do? They could not change league. Think if the championship fails. What should they do ?? Spend to make a new league to get them to go into those categories ??Then there is already inactivity problems with 3 categories, let alone with 5. such a thing is unthinkable. Do not you think? So 2 more categories do it for all championships or for none and in any case it would not be the same advantageous.
2) The league logo doesn't make sense either. If you want to make the league logo you create a page on the league forum and post it, it just doesn't make sense in other places.
3) The only thing I support is the customizable points system.

1) It could be done and it should be done. There are too many leagues already and having more dedicated leagues and with hosts who are willing to pay a fee to have more players would solve this issue. There has been proposals to charge 500+ tokens to create a league, why is this any different.

2) It gives an advantage to paying hosts with extra visibility. I find the league logo in the league page to be equivalent to the extra benefits you can get in servers through subscriptions (like nitro for Discord). Same thing for the highlighted text on the league list.
3)The save design points feature would be helpful for many league hosts. Personally I’m not a fan, but if people are willing to pay a subscription then they should have the option to enable such feature.

Cole Trickle
Timothy Barry
Dario Jp
Timothy Barry
Dario JpThese things should not cost money.


Really?  


Are you saying that developers should not be paid or have funding to do this???

If we can charge, one off, lesser amounts for each separate addition of these and a one off payment to implement them all.  Maybe that money can be tracked and used specifically for those upgeades.

If you want any to be developed, pay in advance for the work to be done.  Once it is done, you pay for general site maintenance.


Yes really. Most of what the post is asking for is standard stuff that most games have. I can't see anyone paying a subscription for this.



And, how, exactly, do you suggest that such improvements are paid for?  Those annoying adverts all over this quite excellently paced game (like a plague of general annoyance)?

1.  This game operates on a freemium model so none of the suggestions would fit that.  2.   No one should fund them since they are all dreadful ideas.



There is a point where a developer has to start making money. I’m grateful that this game hasn’t turned into pay-to-win garbage like many other freemium games, and if they have to implement this to earn some revenue then let it be. If you find it all dreadful then don’t subscribe. There are some more active, more noteworthy leagues who would want to increase their coverage, who would probably pay for this small subscription. I see no problem in that.

1.  No host would pay a subscription for this.  As Dario’s says payment should be for cosmetics only.  It would also do nothing to consolidate the number of leagues (any hosts not paying would continue as normal)


2. You can already do this for free ???


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medal 6055
1 year 332 days ago


Timothy
I shall shut up now, considering that I may have helped to take this too far down the rabbit hole.



Ricky Bobby.


I refer you to and reiterate the above comment

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medal 5974
1 year 332 days ago
Many of you have mentioned this but custom points is the big standout here, I understand tho that they have no plans to add league rules anytime soon as the new levels are in the works, talking of does anyone know a timeline for the new levels? I'm excited for the new challenge.
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medal 5005
1 year 332 days ago
Timothy


Timothy
I shall shut up now, considering that I may have helped to take this too far down the rabbit hole.



Ricky Bobby.


I refer you to and reiterate the above comment




?? most of those comments aren’t mine.  It hasn’t shown the quotes properly.  Mine are just 1 & 2 at the bottom.  I was responding to Stephane
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medal 5000
1 year 324 days ago

Stephano

SA

El
That you can pay a monthly subscription of 5 o 10 euros and have benefits for the league. The payment of the subscription would be made by the league administrator.

Some benefits:

- Expand the number of divisions to a maximum of 5.

- Custom point system.

- The name of the league has a prominent color in the list of leagues

- A new league option. Save design points. (on or off)

- Possibility of uploading the league logo and making it visible in different places on the website.

1) "Expand the number of divisions to a maximum of 5." 
This certainly cannot be done.
How would people who are in these 2 more categories do? They could not change league. Think if the championship fails. What should they do ?? Spend to make a new league to get them to go into those categories ??Then there is already inactivity problems with 3 categories, let alone with 5. such a thing is unthinkable. Do not you think? So 2 more categories do it for all championships or for none and in any case it would not be the same advantageous.
2) The league logo doesn't make sense either. If you want to make the league logo you create a page on the league forum and post it, it just doesn't make sense in other places.
3) The only thing I support is the customizable points system.

1) It could be done and it should be done. There are too many leagues already and having more dedicated leagues and with hosts who are willing to pay a fee to have more players would solve this issue. There has been proposals to charge 500+ tokens to create a league, why is this any different.

2) It gives an advantage to paying hosts with extra visibility. I find the league logo in the league page to be equivalent to the extra benefits you can get in servers through subscriptions (like nitro for Discord). Same thing for the highlighted text on the league list.
3)The save design points feature would be helpful for many league hosts. Personally I’m not a fan, but if people are willing to pay a subscription then they should have the option to enable such feature.



1. No, it shouldn't be done. As said previously by Sa this would cause more inactivity and the people in those two divisions who leave the league would have to pay for the whole premium package all over again and the cycle repeats all over again for the people in those two divisions who leave the league.


2. The extra customization would barely be worth it in the end and would barely improve the game.

3. This point was not referring to saving design points, rather for custom league point systems - which is the sole diamond in the rough of this idea. In fact saving design points is an entirely different thing that was rejected previously - a reminder to read past forum posts
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