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Ever thought about changing the points system?

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medal 5000
11 years 128 days ago
An example being Jeff, Edwin. In the race (Aussie) where he cancelled his supplier and didn't even participate. After the race finished he was still showing ahead of the likes of me and Chris who both came 11th and 12th ish.
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medal 5000
11 years 128 days ago
Having read all this the simplest solution I can think of is to reduce the max number of cars allowed in a league to 22 and keep the points system as it is
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medal 5000
11 years 128 days ago
That isn't simple at all, in fact it's probably more difficult haha. Leagues with more than 22 would have to start removing players (and even if they did that, how would they choose who?), and players would have to try and form new leagues and what not all while trying not to clash them etc with all the other new leagues being made.
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medal 5000
11 years 128 days ago
I like the idea of proportional points. Roughly 45% of the drivers can get points in F1 and creating/using a system (Moto GP) that give points for 14 or 15 drivers would keep things in proportion to the possible max size of the iGP field.
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medal 5000
11 years 128 days ago
"Jason
That isn't simple at all, in fact it's probably more difficult haha. Leagues with more than 22 would have to start removing players (and even if they did that, how would they choose who?), and players would have to try and form new leagues and what not all while trying not to clash them etc with all the other new leagues being made.

Even if people have to be kicked, don't you think 22 cars and 10 getting points is better than 32  and only 10 getting points
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medal 5000
11 years 128 days ago
Getting even more cleaver with the analytical approach to point scoring,
 
If the number of cars in the league changes, should the number of places point are awarded to, and the total awarded points change...??
 
I say this as I couldn’t catch one of my competitors as they scored point when lots fewer cars were in the league, and it became much harder to score points as the new joiners were better performing than both of us..
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medal 5000
11 years 128 days ago
Ignatius
"Jason
That isn't simple at all, in fact it's probably more difficult haha. Leagues with more than 22 would have to start removing players (and even if they did that, how would they choose who?), and players would have to try and form new leagues and what not all while trying not to clash them etc with all the other new leagues being made.

Even if people have to be kicked, don't you think 22 cars and 10 getting points is better than 32  and only 10 getting points


He never said it wasn't better just that it was by no means the most simple option.
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medal 5000
11 years 128 days ago
"Edwin
James, I was under the impression that the scoring system matches actual F1 & includes count back


The points system matches F1 and is fine as it is. According to Jack, the system handles ties by awarding the higher place to whomever had the best result first.

If two teams are tied on points, but Team A only wins Malaysia and Team B wins Germany and Valencia, Team A will get the place.
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medal 5000
11 years 127 days ago
"James

"Edwin
James, I was under the impression that the scoring system matches actual F1 & includes count back




The points system matches F1 and is fine as it is. According to Jack, the system handles ties by awarding the higher place to whomever had the best result first.



If two teams are tied on points, but Team A only wins Malaysia and Team B wins Germany and Valencia, Team A will get the place.


But it doesn't work the lower places out correctly. See my post at the top of this page. An example being is what I said in my post. A manager cancelled his engine supplier before the first aussie race, and after the race he was still showing in 11th overall. He should be 16th. Unless you score points it doesn't change your position even if you're doing better than someone else.

So the system potentially could demote the wrong people.
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medal 5000
11 years 126 days ago
"Jason

Unless you score points it doesn't change your position even if you're doing better than someone else.

So the system potentially could demote the wrong people.


This is true. Supposedly it works if it's at the end of the season, but I don't know; I've never seen it first-hand.

Bottom line, standings are broken and need work, period.
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medal 5006
11 years 126 days ago
The countback for guys on zero points kicks in after a couple of races, after the 1st race of the season its almost reversed but it sorts itself out after that ive complained b4 about it after race 1 and then after race 2 or 3 its all switches round to the correct countback everytime, & like James said its who got an 11th place finish first not how many 11th places etc, well thats what Jack told me once anyway in regards the who got an 11th place first and not how many 11th's.
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medal 5000
11 years 126 days ago
Giving out points to teams who are below P10 is the exact same thing as giving out a "consulation award"...you did nothing to gain it other than just show up.

Granted, this game is difficult and the learning curve is high...but THAT'S RACING PEOPLE!!  If you can't hang, then either 1.) get better 2.) go to a different league with drivers you can compete with or 3.) find a new game.

To paraphase the words of Kimi Raikkonen:  "If you are tired of losing, then you should get up in the front."

I definitely don't think we should reward mediocrity...I worked my butt off to get my first point; why should others feel entitled to lower the bar because they didn't?
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medal 5000
11 years 124 days ago
As always I agree with almost all that is being discussed so how about this as a suggestion.

That everyone in Rookie tier gets some kind of points reward then it gets harder the further up the tiers you go.  Just thinking off the top of my head here guys so don't shoot me!  I can't see how this would be implimented but something like it might be worth considering.  I do think that once you have someone hooked at the beginning they will stay and not give up.
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medal 5000
11 years 94 days ago
Perhaps each individual league should be able to define their own points system, or choose from a few pre-set options?
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medal 5000
11 years 93 days ago
For me the points are ok, because they are equal to real F1. What's not equal is the size of leagues, with up to 32 cars. I think its way too much.
To maintain some proportion to the game as it is, i think a 24 cars league (with 2 drivers/12 teams), would be the best for this game (this way the promotion/relegation could be keeped as it is).
Close to real F1 and enough cars/drivers (not too much as it is now) to serious competition.
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medal 5000
11 years 92 days ago
Again, it would be nice if there was flexibility for a league admin to be able determine the maximum amount of cars in their league.


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medal 5000
11 years 68 days ago
Top 16 score points will be better. This is what I propose:

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