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medal 5000
5 years 221 days ago
Dear developer, I think it's unfair, a manager who is not playing and his team stay as latecomer to the point of the first ones to benefit from the slow car of the other offline teams to gain advantages in the opening of wings. In my opinion, offline account should not influence the race. Sometimes we're up for the last lap, and we know we're going to pass, but he finds a latecomer offline, and opens the wing, preventing you from overtaking. You're making me very frustrated about this.
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medal 5000
5 years 220 days ago
hopefully your league should be throwing non active members off the league that would help. Remember not every player can play the races live so it would be unfair to restrict these members by deactivating DRS etc simply because theyre not able to participate in the race itself
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medal 5003
5 years 220 days ago (edited 5 years 220 days ago)
I find it amusing that on one hand we have managers posting on this forum asking for crashes, yellow flags, breakdowns and many other random events to introduce some unpredictability, then we have others who want to remove features that make the results unpredictable. I'm glad I'm not a developer LOL.
Personally I don't have an issue with backmarker DRS. Yes it's irritating when it goes against you but over the course of a season I probably gain as much as I lose.
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medal 4998 Moderator
5 years 220 days ago
I'm one of the managers being vocal against random stuff but while my drivers just love to lap those backmarkers right in front of the DRS line I have no problem with how DRS is handled. If I'd be really good then I'd knew when they're likely to pit, notice further in advance which I could use to catch DRS from and react soon enough with the right amount of push to nudge the odds slightly to my favour. However I'm not good enough, but that's my problem and not one of the game. Similar if there are too many slow inactive teams in a race, it's a league managing problem then.
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medal 5003
5 years 220 days ago
@Frank. I think it tends to be relatively new and/or uncompetitive managers who ask for random events. This was me not long after I started playing the game because it was the only way I had a chance of nabbing some points when competing against high level managers. Experienced managers are generally the ones who don't want the uncertainty of random events. This is the camp I now find myself in.
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medal 4998 Moderator
5 years 220 days ago
Yes, it really seems to be that way. For the same reason I really hoped for rain, or even better ones with (several) weather changes, back then. Just still like a good chaos rain race, though, as I'm generally rather at home there. I think with general stuff affecting everyone I could live with, like safety cars or yellow flags, but I just don't like the needed reason needed for them to take place. As long as the games car building and simulation is not deepened considerably this mostly boils down to the game pointing at a random car saying 'Btw, you're out' as a cause. It's just not likely for a herd of hippopotamuses grazing at Senna-S to force the safety car to come out after all.
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medal 5000
5 years 219 days ago
We know it's hard to get everyone online, but I'm referring to the offline guys who do not even train for the offline race, who have seen stragglers.
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medal 5000
5 years 219 days ago
As said the back markers also can be your friend if timed correctly by adjustment of push or use of boost.....in my opinion its all part of the game...try and use them to your advantage
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medal 5000
5 years 218 days ago
I totally agree for some random events during the race.
Otherwise there is no point to have reliability and cooling as part of the car developing.
You should have more chances to get out of a race if your reliability is low, or to damage the engine if cooling is low.
Otherwise all managers are upgrading only the 4 main, and no one cares about the rest.
I tested that tyre economy doesn’t change if you have low or high level!!
Drivers value should be part of that as well..... if your driver is likely to make mistakes, it would probably not finish the race.
But all this aspect are not into the game.
In 5 seasons I’ve always finished the races!
Is it real?
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medal 5003
5 years 217 days ago
If you have a car that is more likely to break down with low reliability or increased risk of engine failure with low cooling this would result in:
a. Lots of breakdowns and engine failures in Australia, Malaysia and China because early in the season all of the design attributes are low.
b. A much higher likelihood of Rookie's cars failing because they have lower design than Pro or Elite teams. I think we should encourage newcomers to persevere with the game, not have their cars fail through no fault of their own which will just make them want to give up and leave.  
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medal 5000
5 years 217 days ago (edited 5 years 217 days ago)
Kevin
If you have a car that is more likely to break down with low reliability or increased risk of engine failure with low cooling this would result in:
a. Lots of breakdowns and engine failures in Australia, Malaysia and China because early in the season all of the design attributes are low.
b. A much higher likelihood of Rookie's cars failing because they have lower design than Pro or Elite teams. I think we should encourage newcomers to persevere with the game, not have their cars fail through no fault of their own which will just make them want to give up and leave.  


I applaud your comment.

I can only hope more people use their brain like u do, and stop trying to have 'great ideas' about all this nonsense like crashes and dead drivers due to as u said "NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN"

On that note, back to the topic of drs with unactive teams. 
I think its fine. No change is needed. In the long run u will benefit as much as u lose from it.
I dunno if real racing allows for top teams like mercedes to pick up drs from the guys they lap.
If they do. Nothing should be changed at all, because u all apparantly want some form of reality.
If it is not allowed in real formula 1 (even tho this is not formula 1) we can negotiate further on wether we should allow top teams to pick up drs from the lapped people.

I guess the rule in formula 1 is just the same 1 second rule as here, but i really dont know. I stopped watching when barrichello let schumacher pass on teamorders at the finish line, after being alot faster and driving in front the whole race.
I occasionally try n watch a race,but its only the first 4 cars that win races now, or if they f up, it might be the redbulls....
The other cars are just there to fill ranks..
Most boring 2 hours of your life ,unless u a hamilton fan maybe....
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medal 4998 Moderator
5 years 216 days ago
Some years ago at least the rule was the same as here, one second behind any other car and you're allowed DRS. Makes sense, if you can lap another car that way then the lapped car hasn't his race disturbed by blue (that much). But they might have changed it for some more action for the shows sake, because if a to be lapped car slightly blocks another car, which isn't allowed DRS because the car in front is almost one lap behind, then this car might be ripe for an attack from the car getting DRS behind it, including possibly some 'interesting' situation at the end of a DRS straight.

For Cooling and Reliability there is a thing that would work, though. Make it that if Acceleration, Braking, Handling or Downforce is below the Reliability value then the Drivetrain, Brakes, Suspension or Wings/Body has a chance to fail. If Cooling is below Acceleration (maybe Acc + or - every degree temperature above or below 25 degrees Celsius) then the Engine wears faster and/or (ultimately) has a chance to fail. That way you can decide to do a bulletproof car or try to do it the Lotus way. Still a bit of a dice roll if you, or someone else, takes the chances but it would be at least a manager decision.
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medal 5000
5 years 216 days ago
Dude. Stop with the silly ideas. The topic is about drs for cars that are, or are being lapped.
If u wanna talk about your silly ideas open your own topic, and i will trash your ideas there with all sorts of reasons why not.
There are no drivetrains and suspensions in the game!
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On drs u say the rule of f1 was the same as here, but they might have changed it......
I bet it was all just a build up so u can seem to stay on topic while u actually try n push your hidden agenda of randomness in the 2nd alinea.
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So back to the drs. 
I say keep it. I like the game as is, and i think drs over lapped people is a good thing as well as a bad thing. When it is benefitting me, others suffer. When it benefits others, i suffer.
But i think all these benefits and sufferings can be cancelled out by being smart with your kersbattery 
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medal 5000
5 years 216 days ago
In real life F1, any car within 1 second of the car in front can get DRS regardless of the position of the car(lapped or not)
GP2 apparently have an allocation of DRS button presses where they can activate DRS during the race with no restrictions on how close to the car in front or behind(can only be used in DRS zone). Before anyone says it, I know this is not like F1 but  the above is a response to people questioning whether a leader would get DRS from backmarkers in F1 at the moment.

And on the original point - I think it is great planning to steal DRS off a backmarker to keep you in the lead.
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medal 5000
5 years 216 days ago

Andy
In real life F1, any car within 1 second of the car in front can get DRS regardless of the position of the car(lapped or not)
GP2 apparently have an allocation of DRS button presses where they can activate DRS during the race with no restrictions on how close to the car in front or behind(can only be used in DRS zone). Before anyone says it, I know this is not like F1 but  the above is a response to people questioning whether a leader would get DRS from backmarkers in F1 at the moment.

And on the original point - I think it is great planning to steal DRS off a backmarker to keep you in the lead.



All i wanted to know. Thnx. Since you are all so keen on reality. And f1 having the exact same rule as here. I think we can drop the topic n keep it as is.

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medal 5000
5 years 199 days ago

Andy
In real life F1, any car within 1 second of the car in front can get DRS regardless of the position of the car(lapped or not)
GP2 apparently have an allocation of DRS button presses where they can activate DRS during the race with no restrictions on how close to the car in front or behind(can only be used in DRS zone). Before anyone says it, I know this is not like F1 but  the above is a response to people questioning whether a leader would get DRS from backmarkers in F1 at the moment.

And on the original point - I think it is great planning to steal DRS off a backmarker to keep you in the lead.



I think you're referring to GP3 where they are limited to 6 uses of DRS but still need to be within 11 second of the car in front. F2 (or GP2 as it was formerly known) uses DRS the same way as F1
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medal 5349
5 years 197 days ago
Yes, sometimes they use kers inappropriately...
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medal 5000
5 years 197 days ago
About the slow cars, just join a good league, mine just had 30/32 cars on the lead lap last race.
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medal 5000
5 years 160 days ago
Think about a situation, you are in second place but knowing that you are faster than the car ahead, already calculates how many laps to overcome it, but you see that there are few laps to finish the race. You find that you are on the last lap and increase the aggressiveness know that before finishing the lap will surpass, especially in the DRS zone, your car is very fast your victory no longer leaves your hands! LOL. You already calculate the points you will win, etc. Your car arrives in the long awaited area of DRS, but opa! What's that! The car that is in first sees an offline player, q even if qr adjusted his car and much less trained ... to help the first place in the DRS zone preventing his overtaking, then you fall into despair kkkk will q only I think this ?!
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medal 5000
5 years 159 days ago
I think its great, if u are really faster than the other car, he wouldnt be leading, or...... u failed the correct strategy or the use of kers....
Good for him. Congratulate him.
Furthermore i think i try to avoid thinking in speculation. Thats what cops do. "What if" (dutch:) 'onvoltooid toekomstige tijd'
Dunno how to translate it tho as it is a grammar term.

U can make up all sorts of situations that benefit your argument, but as long as that situation can happen to anyone (even u, when in the lead),
Its not a valid argument.

Sometimes u benefit, sometimes someone else benefits. It should cancel out both benefits in the long run.
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