ios-personmd-notifications md-help-circle

Profile

  • Guest
    medal 0
  • Posts: 21
  • Post Likes: 3765

Notifications

  • No Unread Notifications

Suggested
Kers improvement

warning
This thread is closed. Threads older than 6 weeks are closed automatically. To continue this discussion, create a new thread.
angle-double-left ios-arrow-back 1 2 ios-arrow-forward angle-double-right
md-lock This topic has been closed by the moderator
medal 5000
5 years 245 days ago
Hi Guys
First i know why we have kers and i agree with the availability of kers 
however i dont agree that a car  can come through a pack in the last laps and either win or get a podium 

Is there something you can do yo improve this 
1 suggestion is to have so much kers per lap or that Kers gradually drains throughout the race if unused 

what do you guys think about this
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 245 days ago
I fine with boost as it is.  If they make it act like an actual KERS system with a fixed allotment we can use every lap, we'll be using it every lap and rarely use it for actual passing.
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 245 days ago
i dont mind that its when a car who is middle of the pack on the last lap suddenly uses kers and ends up second hows that good strategy its been a bug bare for a while
md-quotelink
medal 5001
5 years 245 days ago
Kers is fine, saving kers and using it all at the end is one way of using kers, not the guaranteed best way. There are so many different ways you can use it, you just have to have an open mind. People who only kers this lazy way often have the fastest car on the grid and can kers anyway they want and still do well or they give away the potential to win by letting themselves get blocked.

The problem isn't the system but the managers who aren't using it effectively.
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 245 days ago
i agree you both have great arguements against what im asking and i always keep an open mind 
for me there is a definite flaw in the kers system that allows this to happen 

 A good strategy will always be un done by someone saving their kers and letting rip with either 2 laps to go or last lap hows that racing its not someone who has no chance of winning suddenly is either first or on the podium this cant be right 

The winner should always be the person who has the best strategy not the one who has most kers towards the end of the race 
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 245 days ago
We all get the same amount, there's no unfair advantage if you use it in the last lap. If you use it early you gain an early advantage, then others catch up.
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 244 days ago
I totally agree with the initial post. To me, the strategy of saving all your kers and then putting in a lap six or seven seconds faster than the very best your car has done so far, is a simple 'videogame powerup' and significantly detracts from the game. On the whole, iGP is a management simulation game, and to have a feature which is so out of keeping with reality is annoying. There are plenty of 'powerup' racing games available if that is to your taste. I prefer something less 'gamey'. A lap cap on kers use would be welcomed.
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 244 days ago
Sorry, it's good as is.  This may be the one area iGP doesn't need to address any malfunctions any time soon. 

Imo, it all boils down to your racing style. If you're able to go through the race and still have enough boost to overtake your opponents on the last lap......wow....all the power to you! Plain and simple; it takes a lot of patient to do that and the know-how to know you'll get your chance to do so. Race management skills more than likely will dictate how well you can manage your boost throughout a race.  

In short.....excluding your Technology development level, the field is equal for all managers once race day. 
Jack has said the difference in performance among managers level 18-20 is minuscule and designed on purpose to give lower level managers(like myself) a chance should you find yourself in a very competitive league.  
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 244 days ago
Your missing the point of what im trying to say I like kers it's a vital tool in overtaking but some teams are happy to stroll around in mid division and then use their kers on the last lap this cant be right
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 244 days ago

Andy
Your missing the point of what im trying to say I like kers it's a vital tool in overtaking but some teams are happy to stroll around in mid division and then use their kers on the last lap this cant be right



lmao!!!! If I didn't get it before, I'm bound to get it now that I've read it 5 times ..... 


Point taken..... my pov remains unchanged. 
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 244 days ago
But if they as you say they stroll around midfield and are still able to overtake the rest in the last laps using KERS they have had to manage their race well while the others all used their KERS up, to stay that far ahead. Why shouldn't they deserve to overtake the rest then. It's also part of how they managed their race. Although not a very realistic one I have to confess. And the fact that they stayed to so far ahead despite the others using their KERS also shows some manager skills towards tyre and stint selection. But oftentimes as Memo said they also have a car with more speed that allows them to stay that far in front despite not using KERS. 
And in the game as it now is the time and amount of KERS you use is also part of your race strategy. If everyone had full KERS at the end the midfielders wouldn't be able to overtake them who are in front of them at the end as well.
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 243 days ago
My issue isn't that it is a 'lazy strategy' or that it is 'unfair'. It is simply that it is silly. A magic power button that makes you seven seconds a lap quicker often on used tyres than you were at any other time! Really? It shatters the illusion of realism completely and reminds you that you are only playing a videogame. And it does this unnecessarily. It could be done differently and better.
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 243 days ago
I agree it is stupid but hey we seem to be the minority
md-quotelink
medal 5008
5 years 243 days ago
I agree. The amount of times I've been passed by people using all their kers on the last lap I've lost count
md-quotelink
medal 5000 Super Mod
5 years 243 days ago
James
I agree. The amount of times I've been passed by people using all their kers on the last lap I've lost count


Presumably because you used all of yours early in the race and had none left to fight with.

I've lost count of the amount of times I've given myself a headache by bashing my head against the wall but eventually I learnt not to bash my head against the wall and the headaches stopped. LOL

Maybe a change in how you manage your races would help. We all have to deal with the same set of variables, if Boost were to be changed the top managers would simply adjust their race strategy and we'd still most likely see the same managers winning.

md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 243 days ago
Andy
Hi Guys
First i know why we have kers and i agree with the availability of kers 
however i dont agree that a car  can come through a pack in the last laps and either win or get a podium 

Is there something you can do yo improve this 
1 suggestion is to have so much kers per lap or that Kers gradually drains throughout the race if unused 

what do you guys think about this



Impo, the most viable and equally fair approach if any needed would be...
A) to completely disallow it on your last stint. 
B) At the very least disable it on the last 3 laps of the race. Just like it is in the first 3 laps of the race.
I'm very surprise I haven't heard any leagues have similar inner-house rules. Tire rules are a start I guess.

With that said, you do know Andy that you have that same option of saving your boost to be able to withstand the speed attack you know it's coming at you on the last lap. Right?

I've learned to use my boost strategically parallel to my car's strengths regardless what the rest of the field is doing.  But I know what you are talking about here. I used to feel exactly the same way, so I adapted by changing how I manage my team. Unfortunately, I have an itchy finger and just can't resist at times to use boost just to keep up with the pack. Bad habit, I know....I'm still learning...  
md-quotelink
medal 5000 Super Mod
5 years 243 days ago (Last edited by Kevin Bissell 5 years 243 days ago)
Hamlet

I think the second of your two suggestions is probably the better one. On many circuits in a 50% race a one stop strategy is quite common. Disabling KERS for the final stint would mean no KERS for the first two laps and the entire second half of the race.

Even if disabled for the last three laps there will be managers who hold it back until 4 laps from the end and use it to pull a big enough gap to break the DRS trigger and people will then complain about this strategy.

The uncomfortable fact is that irrespective of any rules that are put in place, some managers develop faster cars and are better at managing the live race and as a result tend to win more than others.

Like you I have to try and stop myself from using KERS too much and too early. It took me a long time to learn to resist the temptation and sometimes I still get it wrong.
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 242 days ago
i get the points made and i do agree this may sound wierd but my suggestion wasnt because i get passed on the last lap by someone using kers although it does frustrate me i accept its part and parcel of the race 
I merely suggested this doesnt seem right that a car in the middle of the field can suddenly through kers end up on the podium or winning ther race on the last lap 

i understand that they done well to keep up to put themselves in that position im not denying that it just so unrealistic i have yet to seen lewis hamilton press the boost button on the last lap and fly past everyone to win the race!!!!

I know this aint f1 either but hopefully you get where i am coming from it isnt a moan or a frustration its a suggestion 
md-quotelink
medal 5000 Super Mod
5 years 242 days ago
Point taken Andy, and I agree with your comments about the lack of realism.

Slightly off topic I know, but if the developers have time on their hands to improve existing elements of the game, I for one would much rather they made tyres more sensitive to track temperature and sorted out the advanced strategy.
md-quotelink
medal 5000
5 years 242 days ago
No arguments here mate that definitley needs looking at hardship are a waste of time now but great game guys developers need praising it's the reason why I chuck the odd coin in to say thank you
md-quotelink
md-lock This topic has been closed by the moderator
angle-double-left ios-arrow-back 1 2 ios-arrow-forward angle-double-right

You must be logged in to post a reply.