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medal 5000
5 years 242 days ago (Last edited by Kee Cheyenne 5 years 242 days ago)
You know, this sort of boost mechanic also exists in some racing series in real life. Indycar on road courses is quite similar to boost on this game; you're given 200(?) seconds of push-to-pass and you're free to use it however you like, even after the start/restart. I think other series like DTM have also started using some sort of boost system, but I think in DTM it's limited to how many times you can use it; not sure about the duration.

People talk about Boost being gamey but don't bring up things like high level DRS very often guaranteeing an overtake on a car in front that doesn't have DRS. There's also how Boosting past a car on this game is usually a guaranteed overtake, more an indication of how overtaking on this game works and how 'gamey' it also is, with other things like how near-impossible it is to pass in wet weather past the few first laps without boost.

And there are many races on this game that are settled by close KERS battles in the last stint, which are among the most exciting things you can look forward to in the race. Disabling KERS for the last 3 laps or however removes that sort of intrigue entirely and frankly doesn't make sense considering the mechanics of iGP's race simulation I've mentioned earlier, with things like how DRS and overtaking on this game works.

So what tactics you see is a result of not just how one thing like boost works, but the result of all the things that contribute to the entire race simulation; how the cars spread apart or stick together, DRS, how overtaking and defending works, and so on. You may also be limited to seeing how the few managers in the leagues you're in race; the more you look, you'll find more and more managers who use KERS in various different ways but being able to competitive all the same. I'm not going to go into details into stuff like how saving KERS as much as possible is best in certain situations but not in others, but if you're lucky to ever get tips by veterans on this game regarding KERS, I believe all the advice you can get can be summarized in this maxim:

"Use it as much as possible, while saving as much as possible"
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medal 5000
5 years 242 days ago
You got some great points in there and most I agree with especially with the wet weather and kers battles but then the race would always be won by the same racers and with the current lack of CDs in the game the lower teams have no chance of developing hence why bother playing it 
I'm not saying get rid of kers I think kers is important to the game just a suggestion that something different could be done regarding the last lap indulge but that's just my opinion of course
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medal 5000
5 years 242 days ago

i understand that they done well to keep up to put themselves in that position im not denying that it just so unrealistic i have yet to seen lewis hamilton press the boost button on the last lap and fly past everyone to win the race!!!!


It happens in wet races that go dry near the end. Jenson button did it. 
I use 50% then save the other 50 for the last bit of the race. 
There are people who burn there tyres and swap to ss in the last 5 laps and use boost. 
I prefer to manage my strategy and tyres to get consistent laps all through the race. 
I've been a lap ahead of 3rd and still had 50% boost left and used it to get even further ahead. I generally don't use all my boost as its not needed. 
I don't think it's massively unrealistic, its like in a real F1 races someone swapping to fresh rubber and you being on 30 lap old rubber there is a big time difference in laps. 
Like said above everyone has the same boost its about learning how to use it. 





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medal 5000
5 years 237 days ago
But look at it this way. You managing your race using the kers at different points of the race. You will get to a position for the final laps thanks to the kers management. 

The other person manages to stay at a position during the race without using the kers. It's his/her strategy, right? Can you manage to stay next to this racer without using the kers for the whole race? If not, it's not the problem of the kers, it's the problem of racing strategy / player level. That player has more level or plays much better than you do. 

And I say this being one of those who at the end of the race finds herself next to people who have pretty much the full kers. But if I did not use the kers during the race to be next to them at the end of it, I wouldn't be next to the to start with. I would be some positions down most probably.

I think the kers is fine the way it is. Just need to improve our gaming skills and level up to beat them.

What makes me confused and I think could be improved is that level 14 players can easily beat level 20 players. How can that be? The cars should be slower, and does not matter how good you are at live races, you should not be able to beat level 20 players as the season goes by. And I am talking about good level 19-20 players.

So does the game give advantages to some players and not to others depending on when you created your team or something like it?
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medal 5000
5 years 237 days ago
"So does the game give advantages to some players and not to others depending on when you created your team or something like it?" 

Have a read if you haven't already. It's quite funny...or rather not!
Yes it does!
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medal 5000
5 years 237 days ago
Hamlet
"So does the game give advantages to some players and not to others depending on when you created your team or something like it?" 

Have a read if you haven't already. It's quite funny...or rather not!
Yes it does!


It doesn't give any advantages to some teams and not to others. At least that's how I understand it. It's rather the advantage you gain becomes less every time you level up.


Jessica
What makes me confused and I think could be improved is that level 14 players can easily beat level 20 players. How can that be? The cars should be slower, and does not matter how good you are at live races, you should not be able to beat level 20 players as the season goes by. And I am talking about good level 19-20 players.

So does the game give advantages to some players and not to others depending on when you created your team or something like it?


I don't know if you can easily beat a lvl 19/20 manager if you're just lvl 15/16. In my experience you can't beat them easily c.p.. You can however beat them sometimes or if he uses a wrong strategy. You may also be able to beat them, but I think not by 20 sec (easily), if he does the same as you. If he isn't online and you are it's different, so is being on different strategies or having another car design. 

I don't know what your exact circumstances are so I also don't know what happened. Maybe the most important thing is that lvl 15 DRS is more or less enough not to fall out of a DRS train of lvl 19/20 managers if you manage the PL right in the other parts of the track and your strategy is right. Which lets you compete till the end of the race.


Jessica

So does the game give advantages to some players and not to others depending on when you created your team or something like it?


I don't know. But I am also wondering why some teams perform better and others not despite being the same level and having similiar or the same strategies.
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medal 5000
5 years 236 days ago
thank you all for getting back to me on this whether its what i wanted to hear or not its great to get different point of views on a subject

This game is complicated and has to many variables which are not explained in any kind of detail anywhere 

The so called development of the big 4 with acceleration being the most important i feel has now changed as the track design has changed this i like it brings some realism to the game

i think i need a tutor someone who has played the game for a long while and knows some of the tricks for managing in the live races, in this game every day is a school day
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