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Cheating possible???

Hi!

I know this question has asked several times but I have to ask again... Is cheating possible?
We are faced the situation in our league (
https://igpmanager.com/app/p=league&id=56858&tab=info) that there is one level 17 manager (
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=profile&manager=1396702&tab=overview) with an overweight level 18 driver (
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=driver&id=6208230&tab=attributes) and nobody of the level 19 or 20 manager with fully developed driver has a chance to beat him.
Or are there any invisible skills in the game or any algorithm which push sensless a driver?

It is really demotivating and maked not really sense...

BR
Alex

Nice profile picture!

How does the car development look? I heard about a bug that some managers can start the season with an over the limit acceleration stat.

Driver weight has close to 0 impact.
Additionally in that game there are so many more variables which have massive impact. Strategy getting DRS, boost Management, car Development, Staff..... and plenty more that someone with a worse driver can beat you.
Additionally the gain of an extra point in every skill decreases the closer it is to 20, so that a New manager does not has to play 2 years to get competitive.

one point i can see from the outside is staff, all except of you and him in the Top 6 have bad CDs with weakness in the big 4 you have a good one since this season, don't know if you had a good one last season. Thats around 0,2 seconds difference per lap.

See so many of these threads and it's very annoying. Just because a manager is beating you at a lower level does not mean that they are cheating. It just means that they have done a better job than you and you need to up your game. Currently weight has no influence on performance (from my personal experience) so it has no factor at all. 

James, what for a bullsh...! If you have no constructive comment, please dont bother me!

I‘m expierenced enough to do the right thinks.

Bastian, thx for you comment... I know all this points but this explains not this massive gap he has at each race to the other competitor.

Chris, you too ;) Yes, we saw this a few seasons ago in our league. But it is the second season where this manager is unbeatable.

I personally asume there are hidden skills that a driver is over the top for a while.

You shouldn't go around saying people are cheating then just because they are beating you. You can't cheat on this game. I feel sorry for the person winning, being accused of cheating just because he is better than other players. 

James, I can only repeat...

But I ask also in the name of other competitors in our league which are irritated and frustrated.

So please pay attention to another post now.

I believe that you can't cheat in this game in a way that you can do things others can't. It's probably a fault on our behalf that we haven't worked some things out yet, others already may have. Which in consequence gives them a better performance.

I know that is frustrating, since I raced against James myself and was only able to beat him on rare occasions. Somehow it seems that he's always faster or at least at par, but he doesn't cheat in a way that he is able to develop his attributes to lets say 200 for arguments sake. He just has figured out a way to race better than I have and I think in your league it's the same way.

I know it's frustrating, but if we can somehow decipher their strategies and what they to do better, we should achieve the same results. And often enough it's also me who makes mistakes that cost me in the end. So it must not always be the other party as well.

Johnny thanks for the answer!
I had a lot of races where somebody did a better job than me. But not one driver is 10-20s faster in each race than all other.

Maybe I have to rename the post into...
Is there a performance bug or any hidden skills? 🙈

Kevin, yes a lot of manager have left the league a while ago with higher rep. Since that the rep decreased.
But again all this things explain not the gap between 10-20s at the end.
In the past I was one manager who beat other manager with higher level because I spend a lot of time but never in that way.
Compared to all other manager with higher level in our league he do not really different things. Allmost the same strategy and so on...

Nah I'll stay paying attention to this one. Think you owe the player an apology for accusing him of cheating, as well as other players who might've accused him of cheating too. Saying they are cheating won't help you beat them. See how they race and try copy that or find his weaknesses and use try that against him. Try different strategys and development paths, even ask for tips if he is willing to help

wtf... I don‘t say he is cheating!!!
I ask if it is possible, to rule out the presumption for all!
Further I ask is there a known bug or hidden skills!
And again, he do not any expectional things compared to the others what can explain that gap...

Lol... From translation in your league chat he says this:


 I find it crass that I am accused of cheating! I'm going to be better in some area!!! I can't explain it quite that, but I'm surprised that I'm just getting away with it!?! But I can tell you 100% that I'm NOT going to be. And also not the developer of this game am as Heiko wrote in the chat 

Obviously translation can be a little wrong, but by the looks of it it's saying that you accused him of cheating.

Also got this from translation: by the way, in the race the saying with the cheating was a joke!

So i guess you accused him of cheating in race chat;) i don't think saying someone is cheating is a good joke imo. could've just said that you want the fia to check his car;) or just ask how he does it, simple as that:)

I read this as well. He told you he’s not cheating and then you go and ask forum if he’s cheating? Not very respectful, I think you should apologize. 

He’s just faster, get over it, adapt and get even faster in order to beat him, isn’t that what racing is about?

I don`t want to make this any more than what it is..... (performance scapegoat)

Alexander, you say you`re aware the same question has been asked before, right?   Equally you should also be aware of the responses and due consequences. 

The very fact you`re reluctant to accept fellow managers` wisdom suggests that you`re dead set in the belief he`s cheating. He is not!!!!  Save yourself the hassle by simply apologizing in your league`s chat wall and this thread and moving on. 

We have a few threads pinned on the forum, it looks like we need one that berries this issue once and for all. 

Please don't say cheating is impossible! How do you know? Every software has bugs. Always! If u able to find these bugs, u might use them to your advantage, i.e. cheat.


Some weeks ago I found a couple of serious bugs. Reported them to iGP. They reacted quickly. These CSRF stuff from the blog is the one they let u know about. There was more fixed in that release as well.

But again: Right now we hopefully have some bugs less than weeks ago. I don't know any bug right now, but they are there. There are always bugs. Hence, there might always be cheats.

@Mods: please don't delete my posts. I think this is a very helpful insight in software development.

Not an isight Cole, just your personal opinion/belief. There`s an official response from Jack on this subject. Maybe one of the mods can be kind to provide it in this thread. 

Personal opinion? I found bugs. Never used them for cheating, tho. Reported them. Yunus even asked for clarification on reproducing them.
After fix, I was asked to check, if the bugs are actually gone.

The only "belief" think here, is you not believing my words, apparently.

@Mods: feel free to delete this posts. It helps no one!