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[Poll] Yellow Flags, VSC and SC

How would you like to see the Yellow Flags, VSC and SC amended?

28.99% (40)
No change: Fine as it currently is
0% (0)
Yellow Flags, VSC and SC, limited to the first 25% of the race
0.72% (1)
Yellow Flags, VSC and SC, limited to the first 50% of the race
19.57% (27)
Yellow Flags, VSC and SC, limited to the first 75% of the race
50.72% (70)
Complete removal of Yellow Flags, VSC and SC
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medal 5000
4 years 45 days ago
Just a poll for all players to vote on, regarding the use of the Yellow Flags, VSC and SC.

Although the Yellow Flags have been removed for drivers running out of fuel, I personally (and a sizeable percentage of players I race with) are getting frustrated by the occurrence of VSC and SC, in the last 3 laps.

This is normally where most of the racing action happens, with races won by the drivers and managers who could save the most KERS and catch the respective DRS's at the end.

However with the VSC and SC occurring for car break downs, and this nearly always currently happens within the last 3 laps, racing action is frozen for 1.5 laps, essentially being an anti-climax to race finishes now.

I personally think that the last 3 laps, should be decided on the track, and not by VSC or SC.

Possibly make the car breakdowns (for managers that do not repair) occur in the early, or mid part of the race (but not in that last 3 laps!)
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medal 5000
4 years 45 days ago

Peter

Possibly make the car breakdowns (for managers that do not repair) occur in the early, or mid part of the race (but not in that last 3 laps!)


I tried to convey this problem to everyone. but they either didn’t understand me or didn’t want to understand me. many opponents of this problem arose immediately. But the problem is really significant. Why can't these cars break at the start of the race or in the middle? Namely, just to the very finish!This is wrong from a sporting point of view. After all, it is so possible to adjust the strategy precisely knowing that there will be gatherings. In connection with the breakdown of the car at the end of the race, the whole idea of a safety car makes no sense!

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medal 5000
4 years 45 days ago
Flags are something we don't need, totally frustrating and unnerving, many races ruined and many others will be ruined. 
I still don't understand this idea, random should not be an option.
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medal 5000
4 years 44 days ago
No change but make the car less reliable maybe? There a few different ways to do this.
When tyre temp hits MAX, you get a puncture but can still limp back to the pits and continue to race for example
Or when they get too cold, spin and 10-20% off tyre degradation so you may need to pit again/early but creates a yellow flag while you shuffle back onto the track and up to speed
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medal 5000
4 years 44 days ago
I understand the implications of the SC and VSC in real F1 (gaps close up, increased lap time, no overtaking, etc.) but I honestly have not experienced this at all during my races. I don’t believe my league has experienced a SC yet but we normally have a VSC for 2-3 laps near the end as you are describing above. I am still able to use boost and overtake and lap times slow only slightly if at all. Is this abnormal?
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medal 5000
4 years 44 days ago
As the game is now SC, VSC, DBL and yellow flags are completely useless. I personally would remove them and add them later on if they change how the game works. Starting from grip, engine and body wear, inactive cars not participating during races. 

You should also have the right to overtake a lapped car under yellow flags, DBL and VSC. Yellow flags should be used for specified sectors and not for the entire track.

Without these changes, flags system should be removed
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medal 5000
4 years 43 days ago

Peter
Just a poll for all players to vote on, regarding the use of the Yellow Flags, VSC and SC.

Although the Yellow Flags have been removed for drivers running out of fuel, I personally (and a sizeable percentage of players I race with) are getting frustrated by the occurrence of VSC and SC, in the last 3 laps.

This is normally where most of the racing action happens, with races won by the drivers and managers who could save the most KERS and catch the respective DRS's at the end.

However with the VSC and SC occurring for car break downs, and this nearly always currently happens within the last 3 laps, racing action is frozen for 1.5 laps, essentially being an anti-climax to race finishes now.

I personally think that the last 3 laps, should be decided on the track, and not by VSC or SC.

Possibly make the car breakdowns (for managers that do not repair) occur in the early, or mid part of the race (but not in that last 3 laps!)



the community wanted it and you won't affect it
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medal 5001
4 years 43 days ago

Jiří

Peter
Just a poll for all players to vote on, regarding the use of the Yellow Flags, VSC and SC.

Although the Yellow Flags have been removed for drivers running out of fuel, I personally (and a sizeable percentage of players I race with) are getting frustrated by the occurrence of VSC and SC, in the last 3 laps.

This is normally where most of the racing action happens, with races won by the drivers and managers who could save the most KERS and catch the respective DRS's at the end.

However with the VSC and SC occurring for car break downs, and this nearly always currently happens within the last 3 laps, racing action is frozen for 1.5 laps, essentially being an anti-climax to race finishes now.

I personally think that the last 3 laps, should be decided on the track, and not by VSC or SC.

Possibly make the car breakdowns (for managers that do not repair) occur in the early, or mid part of the race (but not in that last 3 laps!)



the community wanted it and you won't affect it


I've seen as many people on the forums against safety cars as I've seen for it.  It really should have been added as an option.

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medal 5550
4 years 43 days ago

Jiří

Peter
Just a poll for all players to vote on, regarding the use of the Yellow Flags, VSC and SC.

Although the Yellow Flags have been removed for drivers running out of fuel, I personally (and a sizeable percentage of players I race with) are getting frustrated by the occurrence of VSC and SC, in the last 3 laps.

This is normally where most of the racing action happens, with races won by the drivers and managers who could save the most KERS and catch the respective DRS's at the end.

However with the VSC and SC occurring for car break downs, and this nearly always currently happens within the last 3 laps, racing action is frozen for 1.5 laps, essentially being an anti-climax to race finishes now.

I personally think that the last 3 laps, should be decided on the track, and not by VSC or SC.

Possibly make the car breakdowns (for managers that do not repair) occur in the early, or mid part of the race (but not in that last 3 laps!)



the community wanted it and you won't affect it



NO ONE wanted it. 
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medal 5000
4 years 43 days ago

Peter
Just a poll for all players to vote on, regarding the use of the Yellow Flags, VSC and SC.

Although the Yellow Flags have been removed for drivers running out of fuel, I personally (and a sizeable percentage of players I race with) are getting frustrated by the occurrence of VSC and SC, in the last 3 laps.

This is normally where most of the racing action happens, with races won by the drivers and managers who could save the most KERS and catch the respective DRS's at the end.

However with the VSC and SC occurring for car break downs, and this nearly always currently happens within the last 3 laps, racing action is frozen for 1.5 laps, essentially being an anti-climax to race finishes now.

I personally think that the last 3 laps, should be decided on the track, and not by VSC or SC.

Possibly make the car breakdowns (for managers that do not repair) occur in the early, or mid part of the race (but not in that last 3 laps!)


That’s a very good poll. I hate that fcking flag
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medal 5000
4 years 43 days ago (Last edited by Peter Man 4 years 43 days ago)
Jiří
the community wanted it and you won't affect it

If you can show me the Forums posts where 'the community wanted it', I would be more than happy to read it. I recall around 25% of players (1 in 4 players) who were actively pushing for a Safety Car.

The poll here is for all players in this game to vote on, and give their opinions, and possible solutions as the best way forward for the game we all love to play.

I like Joshua Johnson's idea, an option for the Host. It could well be the solution forward.

And the whole point of this discussion is to bring to light, issues with the game. Example: The previous Yellow Flags for every time a car ran out of fuel (which nearly every player did not want) Or did the community want that as well?
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medal 4898 Community Manager
4 years 43 days ago
Hello,

I think that a good solution would be to disable all the flags and SC or VSC in the last 3 laps of the races.
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medal 5000
4 years 43 days ago

José
Hello,

I think that a good solution would be to disable all the flags and SC or VSC in the last 3 laps of the races.



I think that better solution would be to disable all the flags  and Sc or Vsc by a button in the championship option (for host)... there are MANY Managers that don't want the new flags etc... THANKS 😉
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medal 5022
4 years 43 days ago
José
Hello,

I think that a good solution would be to disable all the flags and SC or VSC in the last 3 laps of the races.

That is not enough.

With the current system, that DNFs just happen end of the race and by managers who don't repair their cars, the safetycar is just annoying and additionally missing the reason why players asked for it.

I neither need a safety car like many others in the community, but if it is implemented then it must be based on a sound logic.
The main goal of the supporters of the safety car was having more uncertainty and more strategy switches like in rain races for  that the safety car has to be deployed in the first 75% of the race not just in the last 5 laps 
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medal 5000
4 years 43 days ago

José
Hello,

I think that a good solution would be to disable all the flags and SC or VSC in the last 3 laps of the races.



alleluia alleluia .. finally we start to reason
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medal 5001 Super Mod
4 years 43 days ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but as I understand it yellow flags, VSC and Safety Car are currently only deployed when a car breaks down. But a car only breaks down if a manager has not been on line or repaired their car for quite a few races (4 or 5 at least).

So the simple solution for those (like me) who dislike these race changing events is to kick managers who don't repair their cars.

So effectively the league host already has a "button" to disable flags and safety cars, it is the "kick" button.

The league in which I race is full of experienced managers and the host would not tolerate people allowing their cars to become so unreliable that they would break down.
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medal 5000
4 years 43 days ago

José
Hello,

I think that a good solution would be to disable all the flags and SC or VSC in the last 3 laps of the races.

turning off the flags and the safety car in the last 3 circles means that we will not see them at all 99% in the race. Since car breakdowns occur by and large, it’s exactly 2-3 laps before the finish line Perhaps you should do so if the engine and parts of the car are 70% worn out, then the car did not break when it reached 100% wear, but in a random order? In other words, if the player did not repair his car 4-5 races (it is so much necessary that the condition was about 30%),then at the start of the next race he randomly dropped out of the race not at the very end, but say at the beginning or middle.It would already be like the truth, like a real safety car. With all the ensuing consequences.And not like it is now, we are driving the race in normal mode, but at the finish line we are waiting for the safety car and watching how we cross the finish line 

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medal 5000
4 years 42 days ago
How about cars that breakdown aren't entered in another race until repaired. At least that way inactive players won't keep breaking down
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medal 5000
4 years 42 days ago
Kevin
Correct me if I'm wrong but as I understand it yellow flags, VSC and Safety Car are currently only deployed when a car breaks down. But a car only breaks down if a manager has not been on line or repaired their car for quite a few races (4 or 5 at least).

So the simple solution for those (like me) who dislike these race changing events is to kick managers who don't repair their cars.

So effectively the league host already has a "button" to disable flags and safety cars, it is the "kick" button.

The league in which I race is full of experienced managers and the host would not tolerate people allowing their cars to become so unreliable that they would break down.

Totalmente de acuerdo Kevin!

I totally agree, Kevin!
It's as simple as that, the car breaks down at the end because as it's racing it wears out and, not having the car in good condition, it will always break down on the last few laps.
People like to race against real managers, if you can't watch the races at least repair the car and prepare the strategy, what's the point of being in a league to do nothing? In that case the Host can expel you without consequences.
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medal 5000
4 years 42 days ago

Kevin
Correct me if I'm wrong but as I understand it yellow flags, VSC and Safety Car are currently only deployed when a car breaks down. But a car only breaks down if a manager has not been on line or repaired their car for quite a few races (4 or 5 at least).

So the simple solution for those (like me) who dislike these race changing events is to kick managers who don't repair their cars.

So effectively the league host already has a "button" to disable flags and safety cars, it is the "kick" button.

The league in which I race is full of experienced managers and the host would not tolerate people allowing their cars to become so unreliable that they would break down.



I agree with the great Kevin, however this problem manifests itself in the pro and rookie categories where I cannot eliminate all the inactive ones otherwise the promotions freeze. I think taking it off in the last three laps is already one step ahead until you decide or find a right solution or eliminate it entirely because in my opinion it remains a useless and harmful thing for the races.
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