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Should IGP Manager have:

30.26% (23)	More driver mistakes
69.74% (53)	It is good as it is

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Daksh Ranadive
3 years 330 days ago

I think that to make the game more realistic driver mistakes should be introduced.
It can work for eg. A driver is very fast but makes a lot of mistakes then he can crash or have damage. This could reduce the car's pace or even force to retire. This could be further improved by adding a damage module like you have to repair your car after a race if your driver crashes.
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Oğuz Güler
3 years 330 days ago

I wish that. I hope they can do it without bugs.

CenSy Tan
3 years 330 days ago

Daksh

I think that to make the game more realistic driver mistakes should be introduced.
It can work for eg. A driver is very fast but makes a lot of mistakes then he can crash or have damage. This could reduce the car's pace or even force to retire. This could be further improved by adding a damage module like you have to repair your car after a race if your driver crashes.
How is the suggestion. Please vote if you liked the suggestion

Could work unfortunately there is a loud group who will reject this solution. They want full control of what they are managing to be able to constantly win, so sorry, but this post wont end well.

Without these squealers, I say yes!

Daksh Ranadive
3 years 330 days ago

CenSy

Daksh

I think that to make the game more realistic driver mistakes should be introduced.
It can work for eg. A driver is very fast but makes a lot of mistakes then he can crash or have damage. This could reduce the car's pace or even force to retire. This could be further improved by adding a damage module like you have to repair your car after a race if your driver crashes.
How is the suggestion. Please vote if you liked the suggestion

Could work unfortunately there is a loud group who will reject this solution. They want full control of what they are managing to be able to constantly win, so sorry, but this post wont end well.

Without these squealers, I say yes!

Yes, but sometimes winning is not everything we need twists

Gaetano Lombardo
3 years 330 days ago

Daksh

CenSy

Daksh

I think that to make the game more realistic driver mistakes should be introduced.
It can work for eg. A driver is very fast but makes a lot of mistakes then he can crash or have damage. This could reduce the car's pace or even force to retire. This could be further improved by adding a damage module like you have to repair your car after a race if your driver crashes.
How is the suggestion. Please vote if you liked the suggestion

Could work unfortunately there is a loud group who will reject this solution. They want full control of what they are managing to be able to constantly win, so sorry, but this post wont end well.

Without these squealers, I say yes!

Yes, but sometimes winning is not everything we need twists

No, you need to learn how to play .. why these suggestion are given by people who play recently? ... maybe rather than learning how to win they want to have the chance to win randomly ... but then what satisfaction would there be in doing so? 🤦‍♂️

Daksh Ranadive
3 years 330 days ago

Gaetano

Daksh

CenSy

Daksh

I think that to make the game more realistic driver mistakes should be introduced.
It can work for eg. A driver is very fast but makes a lot of mistakes then he can crash or have damage. This could reduce the car's pace or even force to retire. This could be further improved by adding a damage module like you have to repair your car after a race if your driver crashes.
How is the suggestion. Please vote if you liked the suggestion

Could work unfortunately there is a loud group who will reject this solution. They want full control of what they are managing to be able to constantly win, so sorry, but this post wont end well.

Without these squealers, I say yes!

Yes, but sometimes winning is not everything we need twists

No, you need to learn how to play .. why these suggestion are given by people who play recently? ... maybe rather than learning how to win they want to have the chance to win randomly ... but then what satisfaction would there be in doing so? 🤦‍♂️

First of all I am not a new player I played this game earlier also but deleted the game by mistake and lost my progress

Secondly, I am not telling that there should be random retirements,the retirements should be based on the car reliability and driving style of the driver. I would also never want to win because of others losses but it would make managing reliability more important.

Kevin Bissell Super Mod
3 years 330 days ago

Here we go again. It seems every week or two someone makes a similar suggestion and every time we have someone from the pro-crash brigade throwing insults around.

I will ignore the reference to squealers assuming that it is a Malay / English translation glitch.

The iGP developers and support team have stated on a number of occasions that crashes and random failures ARE NOT in their future plans for the game. If you want to continue to waste time debating this (again) then please feel free to do so, but it isn't going anywhere.

Daksh Ranadive
3 years 330 days ago

Kevin

Here we go again. It seems every week or two someone makes a similar suggestion and every time we have someone from the pro-crash brigade throwing insults around.

I will ignore the reference to squealers assuming that it is a Malay / English translation glitch.

The iGP developers and support team have stated on a number of occasions that crashes and random failures ARE NOT in their future plans for the game. If you want to continue to waste time debating this (again) then please feel free to do so, but it isn't going anywhere.

Oh I didn't knew that the developers had different thoughts. If they think that my suggestion is not in their plans, it must be for the greater good

Gaetano Lombardo
3 years 330 days ago

Hey Kevin I was waiting for you 🤣, see you next time😅

CenSy Tan
3 years 330 days ago

Kevin

Here we go again. It seems every week or two someone makes a similar suggestion and every time we have someone from the pro-crash brigade throwing insults around.

I will ignore the reference to squealers assuming that it is a Malay / English translation glitch.

The iGP developers and support team have stated on a number of occasions that crashes and random failures ARE NOT in their future plans for the game. If you want to continue to waste time debating this (again) then please feel free to do so, but it isn't going anywher

The squealers are intentional.

Chas Shaw
3 years 330 days ago

I see nothing changes as in no one has a right to voice an opinion except the excalted few. If you don't move forward you stagnate.

Peter Man
3 years 330 days ago

Hi Daksh, welcome to the game firstly ;-) The issue with your first suggestion in particular is that it can unfairly penalise managers who have raced and managed a perfect race up that that point, where an event beyond the control of the manager decides the outcome.

In simpler terms, imagine you are winning a race, lets say Australia for an example. The gap is -30.0s, you are cruising to a well deserved victory, after racing hard, carefully calculating your race strategy before the race, and factoring in what your opponents would likely do in the race.

Then your driver crashes on the last corner of the last lap, and you get a DNF and 0 points, through no fault of your own.

Would you still like your suggestion? And would you still carry on playing a game like that?

Antonio Ascari
3 years 330 days ago

Peter

Hi Daksh, welcome to the game firstly ;-) The issue with your first suggestion in particular is that it can unfairly penalise managers who have raced and managed a perfect race up that that point, where an event beyond the control of the manager decides the outcome.

In simpler terms, imagine you are winning a race, lets say Australia for an example. The gap is -30.0s, you are cruising to a well deserved victory, after racing hard, carefully calculating your race strategy before the race, and factoring in what your opponents would likely do in the race.

Then your driver crashes on the last corner of the last lap, and you get a DNF and 0 points, through no fault of your own.

Would you still like your suggestion? And would you still carry on playing a game like that?

And one step further: if you wouldn’t carry on playing, would you then spend money to buy tokens?

Cause lets be honest about this, us all spending real life money is what keeps this game going.

And Daksh thats why the devs wont implement your idea

Ps: Gaetano & Kevin, you’re a great comical duo-act, gotta love it, keep it up 😄👍

Frank Thomas Moderator
3 years 330 days ago

Peter

Hi Daksh, welcome to the game firstly ;-) The issue with your first suggestion in particular is that it can unfairly penalise managers who have raced and managed a perfect race up that that point, where an event beyond the control of the manager decides the outcome.

In simpler terms, imagine you are winning a race, lets say Australia for an example. The gap is -30.0s, you are cruising to a well deserved victory, after racing hard, carefully calculating your race strategy before the race, and factoring in what your opponents would likely do in the race.

Then your driver crashes on the last corner of the last lap, and you get a DNF and 0 points, through no fault of your own.

Would you still like your suggestion? And would you still carry on playing a game like that?

And if I'd be the manager on 2nd winning that race I wouldn't be happy either. I'd win an undeserved victory and championship points through a lottery leaving me with a difficult position to deliberately put myself out of the next race to try to put things straight or go on, but this championship season would be killed off either way.

Chas Shaw
3 years 330 days ago

Peter

Hi Daksh, welcome to the game firstly ;-) The issue with your first suggestion in particular is that it can unfairly penalise managers who have raced and managed a perfect race up that that point, where an event beyond the control of the manager decides the outcome.

In simpler terms, imagine you are winning a race, lets say Australia for an example. The gap is -30.0s, you are cruising to a well deserved victory, after racing hard, carefully calculating your race strategy before the race, and factoring in what your opponents would likely do in the race.

Then your driver crashes on the last corner of the last lap, and you get a DNF and 0 points, through no fault of your own.

Would you still like your suggestion? And would you still carry on playing a game like that?

This is one of the problems with the game there is no risk factor you can do what you want, push high all race with no remot chance of a mistake, save all boost for last lap meaning you push your car to the limit and you know nothing untoward is going to happen, wake up people what perfect planet do you live on.

Daksh Ranadive
3 years 330 days ago

Chas

Peter

Hi Daksh, welcome to the game firstly ;-) The issue with your first suggestion in particular is that it can unfairly penalise managers who have raced and managed a perfect race up that that point, where an event beyond the control of the manager decides the outcome.

In simpler terms, imagine you are winning a race, lets say Australia for an example. The gap is -30.0s, you are cruising to a well deserved victory, after racing hard, carefully calculating your race strategy before the race, and factoring in what your opponents would likely do in the race.

Then your driver crashes on the last corner of the last lap, and you get a DNF and 0 points, through no fault of your own.

Would you still like your suggestion? And would you still carry on playing a game like that?

This is one of the problems with the game there is no risk factor you can do what you want, push high all race with no remot chance of a mistake, save all boost for last lap meaning you push your car to the limit and you know nothing untoward is going to happen, wake up people what perfect planet do you live on.

I said that I don't want random retirements. I think this should only happen if you give a driver orders of driving super aggressive or your car reliability is too low

Kevin Bissell Super Mod
3 years 329 days ago

Seeing as I have ten minutes to spare before a few socially distant beers with good friends...

Censy
The squealers are intentional.

It is unfortunate that you choose to insult the overwhelming majority of players who do not agree with you. How would you like it if those that don't want breakdowns and crashes tarnished those that do want them as "losers"? I'm sure it's not the case, there are many people who want something different from this game but IMO the one thing that the vocal pro-crash brigade have in common is that they can't be bothered to win on merit by learning how the game works, they would prefer better managers to suffer from incidents beyond their control.

Chas
I see nothing changes as in no one has a right to voice an opinion except the excalted few.

Everyone has the right to voice their opinion, isn't that what people are doing on this thread? Just as the pro-incident managers have a right to promote their opinion those against it also have the right to explain why they are against it. Neither side are having their posts deleted or censored so I don't understand on what basis you make your comment.

Daksh
I said that I don't want random retirements. I think this should only happen if you give a driver orders of driving super aggressive or your car reliability is too low

Linking the probability of breakdowns to reliability has been suggested on many occasions. Whilst I don't totally disagree with an element of risk being introduced into the game it can't be linked to the Reliability attribute. Each season car design is reset, linking the probability of failure to reliability would result in a war of attrition in the early races of the season when design is low and would also disproportionally affect Rookie and Pro managers.

Ultimately any "risk" measure will still rely on a randomness, just the probability of the random event happening would be adjusted depending on the risk factor.

We already have a number of random events in the game. Off the top of my head I can think of weather, Flags/VSC, pit stop bug, qualifying, wrong tyre bug and a bug that can cause a car to lose 15 places in the first lap. These random events are causing many experienced managers to quit playing because it's becoming a game of chance rather than one of strategy and skill.

Personally I would like the devs to focus on fixing the bugs that already cause randomness instead of introducing yet more. But that's my opinion, I'm entitiled to air it, those that disagree with me are also entiled to air their opinion but they should do so without resorting to personal insults.

Account One
3 years 329 days ago

Kevin

We already have a number of random events in the game. Off the top of my head I can think of Qualifying, weather, Qualifying, the pit stop bug, qualifying, wrong tyre bug and a bug that can cause a car to lose 15 places in the first lap. And Qualifying.

Have I made my opinion clear? 😅

Neil Kumar
3 years 329 days ago (Last edited by Neil Kumar 3 years 329 days ago)

As Kevin has already stated, there are bugs that introduce uncontrollable and randomised events in races which are twisting the balance of the game towards chance rather than actual management, qualifying and pit stops being prime examples. Also, introducing the element of randomness appears at first to be a good aspect from the outside, which explains why this suggestion is more popular among the newer players, but then again, this is an online game with many players battling for points and championships. The possibility of a relegation-threatened team crashing out while in points or a championship contender having to retire while leading are few examples of when the element of randomness will demerit individual effort and skill.

Linking it to a certain car attribute or push level isn't desirable either, for it will again be based on chance. The game has to be based on management skill which the general player base rightly wants in my opinion

Kevin Bissell Super Mod
3 years 329 days ago

Rhys

Kevin

We already have a number of random events in the game. Off the top of my head I can think of Qualifying, weather, Qualifying, the pit stop bug, qualifying, wrong tyre bug and a bug that can cause a car to lose 15 places in the first lap. And Qualifying.

Have I made my opinion clear? 😅

Hi Rhys. Is there a problem with qualifying? Hahahaha.

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