Chaz Bradley medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
Hi, I have noticed that the objective that you have been given before the race is based off of your last result. Well lets say that I managed a 3rd one race but then I had to get 3rd again for my objective and I qualify 17th, It would take a miracle to achieve the objective and get the extra cash. Some people may need cash and it would help if the objectives were done in a different way.
So this is my idea, why not have your objective based on your qualifying performance? I mean it makes more sense and it can give smaller teams a better chance of getting the extra money. So if I qualify 17th, instead of the last race result, I could have an objective of maybe 15th. I also suggest this as I wouldn't think it would be that hard to code.
Would love to hear your feedback.
Yuri Kasdorp medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
Completely wouldn't work.
For starters, some drivers are poor in qualy (lack of speed attirubtes) but are in great in the race due to good attacking/defending.
Also, what if people use Hards when others use Softs or vice versa?
Plus, they are based, not only on previous races, but also on level.
Chaz Bradley medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
Hard tyres are useless in 25%... You can soft-soft ever race
And as for Lack of speed guys, then they have a chance of getting that objective.
It's just if you have a great race but then have a poor qualy the next, you can't get the bonus.
Dan Bull medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
It is only loosely based off your previous race result. It also considers other factors. For example, I won the last 10 races of last season and my objectives were never higher than 10th.
Adding to Bradley's point, it may encourage some people to start on hard tyres just to get a goal they can achieve. In my opinion this would slightly spoil the races as it'd be more difficult to gain an advantage in strategy.
Hard tyres are not always useless in 25% races. You don't have to stop...
Yuri Kasdorp medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
"Chaz
Hard tyres are useless in 25%... You can soft-soft ever race
Since when was the topic solely about 25%?
Plus, I don't think you understood what I said about speed.
Chaz Bradley medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
You know what I mean Dan. It's just thought it would give more people a chance to get that objective
Chaz Bradley medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
Yes, Speed = Fast,Slow Corners and wet weather..
Yuri Kasdorp medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
"Chaz
Yes, Speed = Fast,Slow Corners and wet weather..
I was saying that certain drivers are brilliant in the races but terrible in qualy. They still get the objectives but will end up with ridiculously easy objectives according to your proposal. So you clearly didn't understand what I meant.
As in, if a driver can't qualy better than 15th but due to superior attacking/defending skills can finish 5th, could get really easy objectives of 12th if it was based on qualy.
Chaz Bradley medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
It's too make the objectives easier for people. Especially if they are new. I mean, some objectives are rediculous.
Yuri Kasdorp medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
"Chaz
It's too make the objectives easier for people. Especially if they are new. I mean, some objectives are rediculous.
Well new people have a low level, so they will get easy objectives as Dan said above. Objectives are only ridiculous if you one of the best managers (level wise) yet to struggle to be superior.
Chaz Bradley medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
Look its a suggestiom, there are many times where I have encountered this and thought, how on earth am I suppose to get this objective. Especially when the league I am in is really close due to rules implented in by the host.
Dan Bull medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
Let's put it into context.
Say a new person entered a 1-car league. He could either start on softs or hards.
If he qualified on softs where others were on hards, he could qualify ~10th and would be expected to finish there.
If he qualified on hards, he would qualify at the back giving an almost guaranteed objective completion but would get him a worse result than if he'd started on softs.
It would just give a way for people to "farm" money for bad results.
Yuri Kasdorp medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
Personally, the objectives are slightly too much focused on previous race, as it is possible to have a 'one-off result', but that's it. When results are consistant, the objectives are consistant and realistic with the correct strategy and good live managing.
Using qualy as a major factor wouldn't work at all.
Chaz Bradley medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
But that's at their cost. Would you rather have money or good results? You can make money a whole lot easier. I don't know whether not achieving your objective affects the driver. Like I said, It's just a suggestion.
Yuri Kasdorp medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
"Chaz
But that's at their cost. Would you rather have money or good results? You can make money a whole lot easier. I don't know whether not achieving your objective affects the driver. Like I said, It's just a suggestion.
and like I said, it wouldn't work. Qualy is fairly random, people can use multiple compounds etc.
What if a driver has brilliant speed and the manager can do nothing except qualy on hards to stop tough objectives? If he qualies on Softs, starts on pole but the objective is to win, even though the driver doesn't have the attributes needed to win.
Chaz Bradley medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
It's not all about speed. Physical is one of if not the most important stat. If you qualify on pole with just speed, then you either have a good car or the opposition have worse drivers.
Yuri Kasdorp medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
There is a possible Catch 22 Situation.
Driver = Good Qualy, Bad Race Attributes
Qualifies on Softs = Starts 1st. Objective 1st. --- Impossible due to poor race attributes.
Qualifies on Hards = Starts 20th. Objective 20th --- Impossible due to poor strategy (Monaco for example).
Even at Monaco, qualifying on pole but having poor defensive stats means you definitely won't win, especially with new DRS.
Chaz Bradley medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
Why do you need to defend when your quick ;) My driver hasn't got great defending stats but when she is in the lead.. the rest is history. As for Monaco, starting on Hards is just frankly stupid. You're around 1-2 seconds a lap slower. And when I say your quali meats the objective, I mean First could equal at top 3 finish.
And if your driver is good at quali but bad in the race, sack them. You don't get points for qualifying.
Yuri Kasdorp medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
I was using examples. When I said 'Objective 1st', that is just a bloody example. Stop taking examples seriously.
And about using Hards, that's the bloody point, a Catch 22 Situation. You either start on Softs and it is impossible to get the objective, or you start on Hards and it is still impossible to get your objective.
Chaz Bradley medal 5000 11 years 15 days ago
That makes no sense whatsover.. How does starting on softs, make it impossible to finish in your objective..The same with Hard tyres... I don't understand the logic..