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DRS in wet races

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Gian Michele Pisanu medal 5000
3 years 52 days ago
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.
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Antonio Ascari medal 5001
3 years 52 days ago

Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.


I disagree. Wet races are a good opportunity for lower level managers to catch points because of the absence of drs. your proposal would take that opportunity away, leaving them even more prone to relegation to pro tier.
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Dillon Hatley medal 5040
3 years 52 days ago

Slo

Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.


I disagree. Wet races are a good opportunity for lower level managers to catch points because of the absence of drs. your proposal would take that opportunity away, leaving them even more prone to relegation to pro tier.

I agree with Slo, if they want to use all their boost at the beginning, then they won’t have any at the end of it drys up. Rain races are a great opportunity for any manager to do well


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B18 Harry medal 5125
3 years 52 days ago

Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.


I agree with this on the basis that the majority of wet races are settled by qualifying. The way the game works, the only way to overtake someone in a wet race is to kers, and bar fuelling a lap or 2 longer, there is no way to get ahead. I can’t think of another way to make rain races more interesting so I agree with this. 

I think the game should be about skill and the best racers/strategies, though some people seem to think it should be about chance 🤷🏻‍♂️
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William Robert medal 5167
3 years 51 days ago
been saying this for ages, wet races on this game used to have drs all the time back in the old days and was much better but many things used to be better in the old days of this game....
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Dortmund Simp medal 5000
3 years 51 days ago
I've never had a rain race before so...
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Gian Michele Pisanu medal 5000
3 years 51 days ago

William
been saying this for ages, wet races on this game used to have drs all the time back in the old days and was much better but many things used to be better in the old days of this game....


You're right William! I know it has been said for years, which is why I have proposed a compromise, and not something that I think is more right, like DRS always. It would be best to make overtaking easier, but I know full well that it would take longer to program, and that changing a variable would be easier.



Slo

Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.


I disagree. Wet races are a good opportunity for lower level managers to catch points because of the absence of drs. your proposal would take that opportunity away, leaving them even more prone to relegation to pro tier.


Hey Slo, I honestly think it's not a direct answer to the point I made. Racing in the wet is boring for everyone, especially in hard fought leagues. The answer cannot be "low levels otherwise they are demoted". It is like saying that a child cannot be born because the world is bad. If they are demoted because they can't compete, that's right. We all learned to play like that, losing, trying to find out how to compensate for a smaller drs and boost. A points race, a fortuitous chance or something similar will not allow them to improve.

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Fabrizio Marcusa medal 5000
3 years 51 days ago
Raise DRS to 4,0mm for rain?

So basically no difference to a dry race, and no chance for smaller teams and lower level teams to score, what maybe their only opportunity to score points in the whole season.

These lower level managers may as well quit, no chance against the higher level, top DRS teams

And 54 total votes in 7 hours?! iGP Manager is super busy only on this thread, or Gian Michele Pisanu use his 30+ account to change the vote (again)!

Moderator and iGP staff, check vote!
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Gian Michele Pisanu medal 5000
3 years 51 days ago
Fabrizio


And 54 total votes in 7 hours?! iGP Manager is super busy only on this thread, or Gian Michele Pisanu use his 30+ account to change the vote (again)!

Moderator and iGP staff, check vote!


The staff can check, as they have in the past (!!), and can see that logically my vote is one. What is the point of proposing a poll and voting with multiple accounts? I was really curious what the community thought, since my proposal was a compromise, therefore with some merits and some flaws.

Dear P.M., accusing me of things you routinely do yourself only gives you the reputation you have.

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Joao Pedrinho medal 5000
3 years 51 days ago

Fabrizio

These lower level managers may as well quit, no chance against the higher level, top DRS teams


I didn't know that lower level managers continued to play thanks to wet races(few races are wet lol). So during summer no new players kkkkkkkkkk 😂
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Dillon Hatley medal 5040
3 years 51 days ago

Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.


I think this is a horrible idea Gian, maybe 2.5 mm but that’s it, if it was 4 it would be like every other race, wait until the final lap to use all of your boost, plus a rain race is a rare occasion, and for me a rain race is something I look forward to every once in a while.

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Gerard VC III medal 5354
3 years 51 days ago
I disagree... Wet races may prove long, boring or tedious in certain circuits but as mentioned earlier (by other managers), giving a bigger window to use DRS maybe turn against the chances of the backmarkers (and mid-low grid teams) of getting their only chance to get the points or the highest position finish to prevent their relegation back to Pro. Plus, we have DRS until 1.1mm, I think that it's enough, but when the track's drying, I think that DRS might be enabled at 1.0 or 1.1mm instead of waiting for get it under 1.0mm (and in places like Malaysia, rain tyres are too prone to get overheat and the track's slowest in the drying up process, no matter how many cars are on track).
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Fabrizio Marcusa medal 5000
3 years 51 days ago
4,0mm rain is with Full Wet tyre.

I never seen any racing catagory (real or sim) that allow such device to open in monsoon condition.

Very unrealistic, set a dangerous example for younger players (that DRS in very wet monsoon condition is safe), but most important; bad for the game. As Slo, Dillion and Gerard have said, these races may be the only time the smaller team score point.

Make the wet race like the dry race for DRS (with DRS every lap, because rain mostly stop at 3,8mm) what chance the small team got to score point?

No point > no interest in always 15. or 17. place > leave game > game get smaller
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Hamlet Rodriguez medal 5000
3 years 51 days ago



Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.



Let me get this straight..... To create more "EXCITEMENT" is your primary reason for this suggestion?


Do you know how many wet races vs. dry races there are? %...

I haven't done the study....but I can safely guesstimate to be an extremely low %... even if the track stays wet.... one can count those races with less than a hand during a full season.  You're talking about a low percentile occurrence here. 
Having to adapt to different race dynamics is good for everyone, and without any changes it generates excitement among most managers. 

Imo having a wet race behave almost identical to a dry race would have the exact effect you're trying to avoid. 




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Dome Nico medal 5000
3 years 51 days ago
perhaps it would be more useful to make overtaking easier in case of rain.  it is now virtually impossible to overtake a much slower car without using thrust.  in my last race in malaysia it stopped raining while i was in the pits and i had mounted the w, i decided on a whim not to return and finish the race with the w, with 1 mm of water a runner with intermediates remained behind me  for three laps when he finally managed to overtake he gave me 4 seconds per lap .....
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Diego Petruzzino medal 5199
3 years 51 days ago (Last edited by Diego Petruzzino 3 years 51 days ago)
Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.

I agree with you Gian because wet races are really boring.
Fabrizio
As Slo, Dillion and Gerard have said, these races may be the only time the smaller team score point.

Make the wet race like the dry race for DRS (with DRS every lap, because rain mostly stop at 3,8mm) what chance the small team got to score point?

No point > no interest in always 15. or 17. place > leave game > game get smaller

You say that the "low levels" have opportunities only in wet races and that without these races they would quit the game.
the "low levels" do not learn to play thanks to the wet races!!


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Antonio Ascari medal 5001
3 years 51 days ago

Diego
Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.

I agree with you Gian because wet races are really boring.
Fabrizio
As Slo, Dillion and Gerard have said, these races may be the only time the smaller team score point.

Make the wet race like the dry race for DRS (with DRS every lap, because rain mostly stop at 3,8mm) what chance the small team got to score point?

No point > no interest in always 15. or 17. place > leave game > game get smaller

You say that the "low levels" have opportunities only in wet races and that without these races they would quit the game.
the "low levels" do not learn to play thanks to the wet races!!




If it wasnt for a rainy race, i would ve been relegated in my first elite season. I was level 12 amid level 19 and 20s. Those wet races were my only hope.


Don’t forget relegation for such a team is a disaster, not only in motivation, also in building up xp. Amid level 20 the gain in xp is high, meaning you increase levels faster which in turn makes you more competitive.

Beeing relegated at that point would’ve meant i would’ve reached level 20 at least one month later then i have been able to.
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B18 Harry medal 5125
3 years 51 days ago

Slo

Diego
Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.

I agree with you Gian because wet races are really boring.
Fabrizio
As Slo, Dillion and Gerard have said, these races may be the only time the smaller team score point.

Make the wet race like the dry race for DRS (with DRS every lap, because rain mostly stop at 3,8mm) what chance the small team got to score point?

No point > no interest in always 15. or 17. place > leave game > game get smaller

You say that the "low levels" have opportunities only in wet races and that without these races they would quit the game.
the "low levels" do not learn to play thanks to the wet races!!




If it wasnt for a rainy race, i would ve been relegated in my first elite season. I was level 12 amid level 19 and 20s. Those wet races were my only hope.


Don’t forget relegation for such a team is a disaster, not only in motivation, also in building up xp. Amid level 20 the gain in xp is high, meaning you increase levels faster which in turn makes you more competitive.

Beeing relegated at that point would’ve meant i would’ve reached level 20 at least one month later then i have been able to.


But someone else who did better in the dry then got relegated instead of you? 


The game is about skill and tactics and building your car up to the higher levels. If you’re not good enough to stay in the elite level without the fluke of a wet race where you qualify well, then so be it, better luck next season. I’m not saying it to be horrible, I had to work my way up like everyone else.

Wet races are difficult because of the lack of chance to overtake without using kers, so the suggestion of DRS is just an option because there is no other on the table. Especially with how random qualifying can be
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Archie Bald medal 5167
3 years 51 days ago

Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.



I think a better compromise will be to reduce the effect of dirty air in wet races and allow closer running/easier overtaking without having to use up too much boost, if any at all.


Yes smaller teams need to learn but right now, there really isn’t a great influx of new players in the game at the moment and stomping down on the tiny chance that tiny demographic has to score points will be overkill.

Wet races rarely occur anyways so it probably won’t be much of a big deal either way.
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Dillon Hatley medal 5040
3 years 51 days ago

Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.

“To create excitement” Then what will they do with Monaco?


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