Suggested

Entire category promoted

There are many private leagues where managers want to play against each other and started in the beginner category, but their teams are also developing, so they will reach the maximum of the category.

It would be nice if we could make the teams private (they could play only in a private league) and there would be an option to transfer entire categories where all teams are private to the next category.

Thank, Barna

Y’all need to stop with some of these suggestions.

Sorry, I don't see what the problem is with this suggestion. I don't think this is an advantage for private teams. It only supports their gaming experience.

Could you tell us what's your problem with this suggestion?

It used to be the case that you could request promotions and relegations between tiers.  I believe that this practice was stopped in genera for two reasons:-

1)  some league hosts may have taken advantage of this to promote friends whom were not appropiate for that tier, for example.
2)  It was a manual data entry problem that could lead to certain bugs occurring in the game (I am not a developer or moderator and I cannot remember what those bugs are).  Also, being a manual data entry job, it became a complete waste of people's time, that could be more suitably used elsewhere.

What happens when someone no longer wants to be in a private league?  Yet more manual work for Support to make them a public account.  Also anything that encourages more private leagues (as opposed to leagues which password protect and can be joined on application) is a bad thing since causes too much segregation when what we actually need is more consolidation.  Until the game population is more healthy with less leagues the creation of private leagues and providing them with more options is a luxury.

Also support already has their hands full - not to mention this would barely improve the game in my opinion (and maybe most other people's opinions)

The above, in my view, are not all valid arguments but I’d like to add that it would open the door for exploits. People would go into a private league, get promoted to elite and exit the private league just for the sake of leveling up faster.
Imagine the gain in xp for a level 1 account in elite amongst level 20’s
So it undermines the growpath for normal accounts and imo that’s why this proposal should not be accepted 

Sorry, I think you didn't understand me good.
On the one hand, although I didn't write it, of course, once a team has become private, it cannot be open again afterwards, and on the other hand, by private league I mean password-protected leagues.

How would a private team be different? Is this a normal team in a pasword protected league? 

This is a team that can only compete in private (password protected) leagues, and such promotion is only possible if every team in the category is a private team.

Exactly. Rules that are exploitable shouldn't be in games like this

What you actually seem to be asking for is the creation of an entirely new type of league. Leagues can be password protected for different reasons and not just for the sake of having it as a private among a few friends. 

For example a league host may only want to open a league up for new entrant's in the off season, as joining mid season can put a player at quite a large disadvantage, or maybe there is a waiting list to join the league as spaces are reserved, or the league runs special rules but is still for everyone but requires you to get in touch with the host first.

Also your suggestion open's up the possibility of somebody effectively freezing their account out of the leagues open structure if they join a private league without understanding the consequences. Which would produce additional administrative work.

The way I see it, I have sympathy for your suggestion as I can understand you wanting to make use of higher tiers and greater car design options, but the amount of work required to make what you are suggesting a reality is probably more than you are estimating, and certainly would not be a priority piece of work even if it was accepted.

So as a suggestion to get where you want to be, you should consider entering the open league system for a bit, getting yourselves promoted to pro or elite that way, and then re-entering your own private league afterwards. You will retain the tier that you are in when moving between leagues.

+1


I do understand you want to play with some friends and benefit from elite competitiveness but the way the game is set up today, would be a big ask for a small studio

This suggestion is for those who decide that they just want to play together with their teams, and they do it together, so there would be no hasty private team transformations and i think there wouldn't be administration problems.

And you could play in a private league with a non-private team, only the other way around not, and as I already wrote, the entire category can only move up to the next category if all teams in the given category are private.

I’m sorry but I don’t think you actually understand how password protected leagues work and the damage your idea could create however well intentioned.  Take note of Michael’s comments he is a very experienced manager.

You have hit the nail on the head Michael

I agree with your point, all this suggestion does is penalize managers who joined private leagues and then eventually left

once too big an advantage, once too big a disadvantage...

if you decide something you have to accept the consequences, I would accept it for the gaming experience with my friends

And I understand that Michael is an experienced player, but believe me he can't be the only one, and I happen to currently have 2 teams in the hall of fame top 1000, my first profile is older than his and I'm the manager of an extremely complicated private league...


I feel very much sorry for you beacause you are still running to criticize and back the proposal without noticing my arguments...


The only problem I see is that with some program structure methods the implementation can be complicated, although I don't think it is complicated, it would be necessary to add a button for editing the profile, which turns on a boolean variable and then disappears for good, and another button for editing the league, which does this examines the variable and, if all are true, raises category variable of the teams... (easier than creating a whole new league type...)

Let’s put hall of fame and account ages to one side, I think we are both spending a lot of time in iGP and I’m happy to try engage in meaningful discussion with you and I’m trying to take on board your points of view. But at the end of the day I honestly don’t think your solution is workable. As I’ve said before I’m sympathetic to the objective of your suggestion but I’m not a fan of the proposed solution. 

If I understand better now. You want to give people the ability to push a button on their profile to privatise it. From here it will only be able to compete in something that you call a private league which I don’t think exists right now, but you think password protecting a league would be enough.

So you then want a password protected league to be capable of distinguishing if it is populated only by private accounts, and if it is, then additional admin options would be enabled for the league host to allow accounts to be moved up and down the tiers. What would happen if the league then had the password protection removed? This is why I believe your suggestion would effectively require a new type of league. 

Also such a league would be bad for other reasons. It would make it easier for hardcore players to create a test league and try to try data mine the game, something I feel strongly should not be facilitated in any way. 

Also, other considerations are required. Should private accounts be allowed access to the transfer markets? I would say no. A player could still level up accounts quicker in a private league and then use them to recruit top tier drivers and staff and pass them across to an open account.

And for the positive side, small groups of people are able to play together in a higher tier environment. Something that they could probably achieve with some effort anyway by reaching the desired league tier and then creating their own league from there.

To me the issues introduced far outweigh the gains