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medal 5000
1 year 315 days ago
Devs ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO FIX the tire delta in the update. It’s so ridiculous that somebody can still outrun your cars with 10 lap older tires. Wet or dry. It literally ruins any reason to have strategy at all. Happened once again in my league today. Wet race (1% per lap). I was conserving tires (%.9 per lap) and wasn’t losing time and went another 10 laps. No matter what I did, I couldn’t catch the leader. I have better car development. Better tire delta and less fuel. Doesn’t matter. 

Most obnoxious thing of all time. 
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medal 5155
1 year 315 days ago
Hey Dom. I've had a look at the wet race and not too suprised at the struggle to catch. (I don't know how significant the car differences are so have ignored that from my thinking.)

There was a set of conditions for tyre pace communicated on the last tyre update, can't find the image sorry. But if I can find the link I'll come back and add it to the topic.

But based on the wear rates you have told me I wouldn't really have expected you to have any sort of tyre advantage over your opponent until the final 10 laps of the race when their tyres would have been into the deterioration zone and yours would have still been good. Meanwhile they would have undercut you and pulled out a gap while your tyres were a bit older as you ran longer.

However that's only a wet race issue with the super low tyre life on the wets.

Could you try explain the dry tyre delta issue you are seeing in a bit more detail? I've not really experienced older tyres being faster / as fast in the dry at all yet, the pace loss is really quite significant if you take them too far now.
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medal 5000 Super Mod
1 year 315 days ago
Dom
The other guy used a better strategy. You qualified 1-2 in a full wet race which should almost guarantee you a win, yet you stayed out too long in the first stint and his new tyres were faster than your worn ones. Precisely the opposite of what you say, he did out run you on fresher tyres which is why he beat you, it was a classic undercut.

It’s so ridiculous that somebody can still outrun your cars with 10 lap older tires.


You were running 1-2 for the first stint, he pitted either side of 50% distance (Laps 34 & 35 of 69) and you remained out until laps 42 and 43. Have a look at the race data, for those extra 8 laps when you were circulating on worn tyres and he was on new rubber he was lapping nearly a second a lap faster than you so you pitted and came out behind him. The wise move (seeing as you had track position in the first stint) would have been to cover off his pit stops on the very next lap to prevent the undercut.

It literally ruins any reason to have strategy at all.

I disagree this is a perfect example of why you need to have a great strategy and to be able to adjust it "on the fly" to counteract the moves your opponent makes.
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medal 5155
1 year 315 days ago
Found the link.

https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/50621

The image in the first post should help explain part of todays problems.

Based on your information, there would not have been any pace difference in the tyres until about 18 laps into your second stint, when your opponents tyres should have dropped below 75%.

So hope that's helpful for you.

In a refuelling league however you may have seen some benefits in going longer due to fuel load differences, but you would have lost time up until when your oppenent pitted.
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medal 5000
1 year 315 days ago

Kevin
Dom
The other guy used a better strategy. You qualified 1-2 in a full wet race which should almost guarantee you a win, yet you stayed out too long in the first stint and his new tyres were faster than your worn ones. Precisely the opposite of what you say, he did out run you on fresher tyres which is why he beat you, it was a classic undercut.

It’s so ridiculous that somebody can still outrun your cars with 10 lap older tires.


You were running 1-2 for the first stint, he pitted either side of 50% distance (Laps 34 & 35 of 69) and you remained out until laps 42 and 43. Have a look at the race data, for those extra 8 laps when you were circulating on worn tyres and he was on new rubber he was lapping nearly a second a lap faster than you so you pitted and came out behind him. The wise move (seeing as you had track position in the first stint) would have been to cover off his pit stops on the very next lap to prevent the undercut.

It literally ruins any reason to have strategy at all.

I disagree this is a perfect example of why you need to have a great strategy and to be able to adjust it "on the fly" to counteract the moves your opponent makes.


When he actually pit, we had enough tire life left to keep going without losing time. And I wasn’t as I was well over 60%. A tenth here and there wasn’t killing me in the long run. I kept going until the distance between us was just under 18 seconds. Which would’ve given him yes about a 2.5-3 second lead. But it would’ve been fine with 10 lap fresher tires at the end.



The only reason I even thought about that was because a race or two ago, he did a stint a 20 lap stint on 4% Mediums which was 8-9 more than everyone else and had ZERO time loss. I literally just did the same thing that happened to me not a couple days ago. It’s just super frustrating when it seems like tire degradation isn’t remotely consistent one driver to the next regardless what you do. 
I’ve read forums for this game.
Have more fuel for push levels. 
Less fuel to be lighter.
Taller drivers.
Shorter drivers.
Lighter drivers.
More tire economy. 
I have higher car development.

It’s just feels like one has exhausted all options to no avail. I can’t be the only that’s been having this problem. Can’t wait for the update.
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