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medal 5077
1 year 200 days ago
Would be really nice if we can do more practice laps to tune our setup, also the feature to configure the amount of fuel for every practice. 
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medal 5000
1 year 200 days ago
yea especially when you have to test for multiple tyre compound and weather differences
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medal 5000
1 year 199 days ago
5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.
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medal 5000
1 year 199 days ago

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5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.



And if you keep good records you will already know set up, optimal tyres for weather conditions and also optimal pl for the track based on differing weather conditions
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medal 5046
1 year 197 days ago
Increase live race practice runs.
This will help newer managers to tune their cars better helping to level the field of top 10 members who always win.
Or make the increase avaliable to teams of level 26 and lower
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medal 5001
1 year 196 days ago
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5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.

Well that isn't true is it if you want try your 6 different engine settings. Then you have your tyres to assess. I think 8 laps would be a fair minimum. Incredible that somebody would actively vote against this, for what purpose, how does it detriment the game?


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medal 5000
1 year 196 days ago

Malcolm
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5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.

Well that isn't true is it if you want try your 6 different engine settings. Then you have your tyres to assess. I think 8 laps would be a fair minimum. Incredible that somebody would actively vote against this, for what purpose, how does it detriment the game?

yea, 8-10 is a good amount of laps
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medal 5000
1 year 196 days ago (Last edited by Skid Solo 1 year 196 days ago)
Marcus

Malcolm
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5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.

Well that isn't true is it if you want try your 6 different engine settings. Then you have your tyres to assess. I think 8 laps would be a fair minimum. Incredible that somebody would actively vote against this, for what purpose, how does it detriment the game?

yea, 8-10 is a good amount of laps


5 laps is more than enough and if you keep records you don’t even need to run practice laps.  Apologies for being blunt, butIf you think you need 8-10 you are doing something seriously wrong.  There is only one ideal set up.
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medal 5001
1 year 195 days ago

Skid
Marcus

Malcolm
White
5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.

Well that isn't true is it if you want try your 6 different engine settings. Then you have your tyres to assess. I think 8 laps would be a fair minimum. Incredible that somebody would actively vote against this, for what purpose, how does it detriment the game?

yea, 8-10 is a good amount of laps


5 laps is more than enough and if you keep records you don’t even need to run practice laps.  Apologies for being blunt, butIf you think you need 8-10 you are doing something seriously wrong.  There is only one ideal set up.

How can that be so. If I race Monaco at the start of a season and my braking development is way down in relation to Acc, Braking and Handling my fastest engine setting for that single lap will be totally different if it was say my handling that was way down. Surely, when as in my case at present there would be a negative of 22 to one of the cars attributes. Just because my fastest engine setting is +22 for braking this season at Monaco doesn't mean necessarily that that is going to be the fastest next season when my car development will be totally different. 



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medal 5000
1 year 195 days ago
Malcolm

Skid
Marcus

Malcolm
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5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.

Well that isn't true is it if you want try your 6 different engine settings. Then you have your tyres to assess. I think 8 laps would be a fair minimum. Incredible that somebody would actively vote against this, for what purpose, how does it detriment the game?

yea, 8-10 is a good amount of laps


5 laps is more than enough and if you keep records you don’t even need to run practice laps.  Apologies for being blunt, butIf you think you need 8-10 you are doing something seriously wrong.  There is only one ideal set up.

How can that be so. If I race Monaco at the start of a season and my braking development is way down in relation to Acc, Braking and Handling my fastest engine setting for that single lap will be totally different if it was say my handling that was way down. Surely, when as in my case at present there would be a negative of 22 to one of the cars attributes. Just because my fastest engine setting is +22 for braking this season at Monaco doesn't mean necessarily that that is going to be the fastest next season when my car development will be totally different. 






I’m sorry Malcolm and don’t want to come across as rude, but you simply don’t understand how the game works.  There is only one ideal set up which is incredibly easy to find in 5 practice laps.  none of things you have written above have any impact?  Most experienced managers already know what the ideal set up from their records and you can find the basic ideal set ups in Rhys’s manager guide in Help & Support section.  What is written there only changes due to driver height so even using as a starting point you find the adjustments in a couple of practice runs.
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medal 5001
1 year 195 days ago

Skid
Malcolm

Skid
Marcus

Malcolm
White
5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.

Well that isn't true is it if you want try your 6 different engine settings. Then you have your tyres to assess. I think 8 laps would be a fair minimum. Incredible that somebody would actively vote against this, for what purpose, how does it detriment the game?

yea, 8-10 is a good amount of laps


5 laps is more than enough and if you keep records you don’t even need to run practice laps.  Apologies for being blunt, butIf you think you need 8-10 you are doing something seriously wrong.  There is only one ideal set up.

How can that be so. If I race Monaco at the start of a season and my braking development is way down in relation to Acc, Braking and Handling my fastest engine setting for that single lap will be totally different if it was say my handling that was way down. Surely, when as in my case at present there would be a negative of 22 to one of the cars attributes. Just because my fastest engine setting is +22 for braking this season at Monaco doesn't mean necessarily that that is going to be the fastest next season when my car development will be totally different. 






I’m sorry Malcolm and don’t want to come across as rude, but you simply don’t understand how the game works.  There is only one ideal set up which is incredibly easy to find in 5 practice laps.  none of things you have written above have any impact?  Most experienced managers already know what the ideal set up from their records and you can find the basic ideal set ups in Rhys’s manager guide in Help & Support section.  What is written there only changes due to driver height so even using as a starting point you find the adjustments in a couple of practice runs.

I don't think you understand my point? You have your own engine? If so how do you decide at each race what the optimum engine setting is?


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medal 5000
1 year 195 days ago
Malcolm

Skid
Malcolm

Skid
Marcus

Malcolm
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5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.

Well that isn't true is it if you want try your 6 different engine settings. Then you have your tyres to assess. I think 8 laps would be a fair minimum. Incredible that somebody would actively vote against this, for what purpose, how does it detriment the game?

yea, 8-10 is a good amount of laps


5 laps is more than enough and if you keep records you don’t even need to run practice laps.  Apologies for being blunt, butIf you think you need 8-10 you are doing something seriously wrong.  There is only one ideal set up.

How can that be so. If I race Monaco at the start of a season and my braking development is way down in relation to Acc, Braking and Handling my fastest engine setting for that single lap will be totally different if it was say my handling that was way down. Surely, when as in my case at present there would be a negative of 22 to one of the cars attributes. Just because my fastest engine setting is +22 for braking this season at Monaco doesn't mean necessarily that that is going to be the fastest next season when my car development will be totally different. 






I’m sorry Malcolm and don’t want to come across as rude, but you simply don’t understand how the game works.  There is only one ideal set up which is incredibly easy to find in 5 practice laps.  none of things you have written above have any impact?  Most experienced managers already know what the ideal set up from their records and you can find the basic ideal set ups in Rhys’s manager guide in Help & Support section.  What is written there only changes due to driver height so even using as a starting point you find the adjustments in a couple of practice runs.

I don't think you understand my point? You have your own engine? If so how do you decide at each race what the optimum engine setting is?




Ok, but that is nothing to with the car set up.  It’s totally dependent on your current development and how it compares to others and the track you racing on and it’s characteristics e.g is it a track which needs  high downforce, Acceleration etc it would benefit from better TE or FE.  Again this can be worked out without resorting to practice laps.

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medal 5000
1 year 195 days ago

Malcolm

Skid
Malcolm

Skid
Marcus

Malcolm
White
5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.

Well that isn't true is it if you want try your 6 different engine settings. Then you have your tyres to assess. I think 8 laps would be a fair minimum. Incredible that somebody would actively vote against this, for what purpose, how does it detriment the game?

yea, 8-10 is a good amount of laps


5 laps is more than enough and if you keep records you don’t even need to run practice laps.  Apologies for being blunt, butIf you think you need 8-10 you are doing something seriously wrong.  There is only one ideal set up.

How can that be so. If I race Monaco at the start of a season and my braking development is way down in relation to Acc, Braking and Handling my fastest engine setting for that single lap will be totally different if it was say my handling that was way down. Surely, when as in my case at present there would be a negative of 22 to one of the cars attributes. Just because my fastest engine setting is +22 for braking this season at Monaco doesn't mean necessarily that that is going to be the fastest next season when my car development will be totally different. 






I’m sorry Malcolm and don’t want to come across as rude, but you simply don’t understand how the game works.  There is only one ideal set up which is incredibly easy to find in 5 practice laps.  none of things you have written above have any impact?  Most experienced managers already know what the ideal set up from their records and you can find the basic ideal set ups in Rhys’s manager guide in Help & Support section.  What is written there only changes due to driver height so even using as a starting point you find the adjustments in a couple of practice runs.

I don't think you understand my point? You have your own engine? If so how do you decide at each race what the optimum engine setting is?





You cannot decide that though practice laps, all practice laps are useful for is finding setup (wing, ride height, suspension) and the tyre wear/fuel use. The lap times are incredibly inaccurate so you cant estimate a correct “engine setting”
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medal 5000
1 year 195 days ago
It could be a good thing if implemented correctly and it's been suggested a few times.

Maybe similar to ideal set up, a token for every practice lap outside the 5 free assigned ones if driver errors can be turned off in practice. This way, you are getting accurate data regarding whatever you are testing for. Win - win all around.
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medal 5001
1 year 194 days ago
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Malcolm

Skid
Malcolm

Skid
Marcus

Malcolm
White
5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.

Well that isn't true is it if you want try your 6 different engine settings. Then you have your tyres to assess. I think 8 laps would be a fair minimum. Incredible that somebody would actively vote against this, for what purpose, how does it detriment the game?

yea, 8-10 is a good amount of laps


5 laps is more than enough and if you keep records you don’t even need to run practice laps.  Apologies for being blunt, butIf you think you need 8-10 you are doing something seriously wrong.  There is only one ideal set up.

How can that be so. If I race Monaco at the start of a season and my braking development is way down in relation to Acc, Braking and Handling my fastest engine setting for that single lap will be totally different if it was say my handling that was way down. Surely, when as in my case at present there would be a negative of 22 to one of the cars attributes. Just because my fastest engine setting is +22 for braking this season at Monaco doesn't mean necessarily that that is going to be the fastest next season when my car development will be totally different. 






I’m sorry Malcolm and don’t want to come across as rude, but you simply don’t understand how the game works.  There is only one ideal set up which is incredibly easy to find in 5 practice laps.  none of things you have written above have any impact?  Most experienced managers already know what the ideal set up from their records and you can find the basic ideal set ups in Rhys’s manager guide in Help & Support section.  What is written there only changes due to driver height so even using as a starting point you find the adjustments in a couple of practice runs.

I don't think you understand my point? You have your own engine? If so how do you decide at each race what the optimum engine setting is?





You cannot decide that though practice laps, all practice laps are useful for is finding setup (wing, ride height, suspension) and the tyre wear/fuel use. The lap times are incredibly inaccurate so you cant estimate a correct “engine setting”

So you run four practice laps one after another each with a different engine setting and you see that the one set to handling is 300 hundredths faster than the other times this is totally false and misleading? Really? That is exactly what happens in the real world, surely, so if there is one setting that is significantly paster that means it's FASTER. Yes?

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medal 5000 Super Mod
1 year 194 days ago
Malcolm

Currently driver errors are turned on for practice laps, so what you're proposing won't work unless the devs also disable driver errors.

If you want to prove this to yourself just run 5 practice laps with the same settings and tyre compound. I guarantee you will get a spread in lap times of at least plus or minus 0.1 seconds.

Whilst this spread exists, your suggestion won't work.
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medal 5000
1 year 194 days ago (Last edited by Skid Solo 1 year 194 days ago)
Malcolm
White

Malcolm

Skid
Malcolm

Skid
Marcus

Malcolm
White
5 laps is all you need to find setup, literally impossible to not if you do it right. As for weather, just do practise right before lockdown to get data on the conditions most likely to be in the race.

Well that isn't true is it if you want try your 6 different engine settings. Then you have your tyres to assess. I think 8 laps would be a fair minimum. Incredible that somebody would actively vote against this, for what purpose, how does it detriment the game?

yea, 8-10 is a good amount of laps


5 laps is more than enough and if you keep records you don’t even need to run practice laps.  Apologies for being blunt, butIf you think you need 8-10 you are doing something seriously wrong.  There is only one ideal set up.

How can that be so. If I race Monaco at the start of a season and my braking development is way down in relation to Acc, Braking and Handling my fastest engine setting for that single lap will be totally different if it was say my handling that was way down. Surely, when as in my case at present there would be a negative of 22 to one of the cars attributes. Just because my fastest engine setting is +22 for braking this season at Monaco doesn't mean necessarily that that is going to be the fastest next season when my car development will be totally different. 






I’m sorry Malcolm and don’t want to come across as rude, but you simply don’t understand how the game works.  There is only one ideal set up which is incredibly easy to find in 5 practice laps.  none of things you have written above have any impact?  Most experienced managers already know what the ideal set up from their records and you can find the basic ideal set ups in Rhys’s manager guide in Help & Support section.  What is written there only changes due to driver height so even using as a starting point you find the adjustments in a couple of practice runs.

I don't think you understand my point? You have your own engine? If so how do you decide at each race what the optimum engine setting is?





You cannot decide that though practice laps, all practice laps are useful for is finding setup (wing, ride height, suspension) and the tyre wear/fuel use. The lap times are incredibly inaccurate so you cant estimate a correct “engine setting”

So you run four practice laps one after another each with a different engine setting and you see that the one set to handling is 300 hundredths faster than the other times this is totally false and misleading? Really? That is exactly what happens in the real world, surely, so if there is one setting that is significantly paster that means it's FASTER. Yes?


See Kevin’s reply, but for me personally I never look at the practice lap times as my records for each track at different temperatures, tyres etc gives me all the information I need and I set up my engines based on my car development compared to everyone else. I already know which attributes are needed for all tracks be if I didn’t I would just add to my existing database and over time I would have all the data I needed to determine this.   In fact like a lot of managers with extensive records over 2,500 races on a couple of accounts I don’t really need to do practice laps, but I do just to add data to my database.  I get why not everyone will want to do so this, but believe me what I do is pretty basic compared to some managers in this game.


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medal 5000
1 year 194 days ago
This isn't necessary, especially in a 2-car-league, you have a lot of datas and if you may need more it is just an another interesting part of strategy 
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medal 5001
1 year 193 days ago

Kevin
Malcolm

Currently driver errors are turned on for practice laps, so what you're proposing won't work unless the devs also disable driver errors.

If you want to prove this to yourself just run 5 practice laps with the same settings and tyre compound. I guarantee you will get a spread in lap times of at least plus or minus 0.1 seconds.

Whilst this spread exists, your suggestion won't work.

Ok, can driver errors during practise runs be disabled per league? If not what method available is there to help select which of the six engine parameters to boost and conversely of course reduce?



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medal 5000 Super Mod
1 year 193 days ago
Driver errors are coded into the game and can't be disabled at a league level. The only people that can disable them are the Devs and if they do they are disabled for everyone.

I know some managers have run many tests in private leagues, gathering a lot of data to determine what is the best design balance for each circuit, currently this is the only way you can do it. But remember you can also use engine tuning to optimise research, and that very much depends on how the other managers in your league develop their cars.
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