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medal 4756
1 year 141 days ago
What about SC? When someone's car goes off due to technical problems or because of a collision (I want the cars to be opaque), a Safety car appears
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medal 5002
1 year 141 days ago
Lol not again ???
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medal 4756
1 year 141 days ago
Has this suggestion already been made?)
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medal 5002
1 year 141 days ago
About 100 times ? it was implemented about 2 years ago and was the single worst addition to the game and ruined almost every race.  The scale of the uproar and disapproval was sufficient for it to be hastily removed.  There are plenty of threads about it so easy to find.
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medal 5917
1 year 140 days ago
That's the problem mate, we have had a SC which I stand by is a brilliant idea, the problem is and was there are no random events, no cars go off, no collisions, the only way to bring out the SC was to have inactive managers who retire. So adding it again without adding these factors is silly. Don't take notice of the ignorant comments laughing at you it's a valid suggestion and you were not here years ago to see it so you wouldn't know. At least you now know the reason why it cannot be added.
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medal 5000
1 year 140 days ago
Dario
That's the problem mate, we have had a SC which I stand by is a brilliant idea, the problem is and was there are no random events, no cars go off, no collisions, the only way to bring out the SC was to have inactive managers who retire. So adding it again without adding these factors is silly. Don't take notice of the ignorant comments laughing at you it's a valid suggestion and you were not here years ago to see it so you wouldn't know. At least you now know the reason why it cannot be added.

Well, to be fair to the devs, how would you add driver mistakes without having the risk of exploits? Tie it in with experience? Some troll is gonna hire the least inexperienced driver to cause SCs every friggin race. Tie it in with health/fitness of driver? Trolls gonna troll (aka train em before the race). Its very hard to balance the factors that can contribute to crashes, mistakes etc., and you have to come to the conclusion that...

Damn, IGP Manager really isnt cut out for SCs
I know its an integral part of F1, but unless you find a way to ensure it is never exploited for one's gain, sorry bud, no chance.


also collisions are a pain in the a for the devs to code lol

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medal 5917
1 year 139 days ago

Vrtex
Dario
That's the problem mate, we have had a SC which I stand by is a brilliant idea, the problem is and was there are no random events, no cars go off, no collisions, the only way to bring out the SC was to have inactive managers who retire. So adding it again without adding these factors is silly. Don't take notice of the ignorant comments laughing at you it's a valid suggestion and you were not here years ago to see it so you wouldn't know. At least you now know the reason why it cannot be added.

Well, to be fair to the devs, how would you add driver mistakes without having the risk of exploits? Tie it in with experience? Some troll is gonna hire the least inexperienced driver to cause SCs every friggin race. Tie it in with health/fitness of driver? Trolls gonna troll (aka train em before the race). Its very hard to balance the factors that can contribute to crashes, mistakes etc., and you have to come to the conclusion that...

Damn, IGP Manager really isnt cut out for SCs
I know its an integral part of F1, but unless you find a way to ensure it is never exploited for one's gain, sorry bud, no chance.


also collisions are a pain in the a for the devs to code lol




I ain't blaming anyone, although before adding the SC and ruining it now for adding it in the future, they could have put some thought into how the SC was going to work. Lessons are learnt we know in the current conditions it doesn't work. I hope in the future people will see this thread and be ah ok that's why it didn't work instead of just laughing and trashing the idea or posting more SC requests.
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medal 4756
1 year 139 days ago
Vrtex
Dario
That's the problem mate, we have had a SC which I stand by is a brilliant idea, the problem is and was there are no random events, no cars go off, no collisions, the only way to bring out the SC was to have inactive managers who retire. So adding it again without adding these factors is silly. Don't take notice of the ignorant comments laughing at you it's a valid suggestion and you were not here years ago to see it so you wouldn't know. At least you now know the reason why it cannot be added.

Well, to be fair to the devs, how would you add driver mistakes without having the risk of exploits? Tie it in with experience? Some troll is gonna hire the least inexperienced driver to cause SCs every friggin race. Tie it in with health/fitness of driver? Trolls gonna troll (aka train em before the race). Its very hard to balance the factors that can contribute to crashes, mistakes etc., and you have to come to the conclusion that...

Damn, IGP Manager really isnt cut out for SCs
I know its an integral part of F1, but unless you find a way to ensure it is never exploited for one's gain, sorry bud, no chance.


also collisions are a pain in the a for the devs to code lol


I have an idea. Devs can add all the qualities of a pilot. The lower the amount, the higher the risk of withdrawal. There is also an idea how to solve the problem with people who buy bad pilots. Devs can set the minimum level of the pilot that the player can buy. That is, if a player is level 17, then he will be able to buy a pilot only from level 15 to 17

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medal 5006
1 year 139 days ago
Random retirements is no go; if drivers retire, the reason should be because of the way they handled the race. Also, players shouldn't be able to force it on their own. Instead, I think more variables from multiple drivers should be considered to trigger a SC, for example when there are drivers grouped together boosting with overheated tyres, low engine life, low tyre wear, and low driver stamina, at this point there could be a low random chance.
In my opinion, the mistake of the previous implementation was the predictability of the SC, linked to the inactive managers.
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medal 4756
1 year 139 days ago

Astro
Random retirements is no go; if drivers retire, the reason should be because of the way they handled the race. Also, players shouldn't be able to force it on their own. Instead, I think more variables from multiple drivers should be considered to trigger a SC, for example when there are drivers grouped together boosting with overheated tyres, low engine life, low tyre wear, and low driver stamina, at this point there could be a low random chance.
In my opinion, the mistake of the previous implementation was the predictability of the SC, linked to the inactive managers.



Yes, predictability needs to be changed and improved
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medal 5000
1 year 138 days ago (Last edited by Vrtex Gaming 1 year 138 days ago)
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Vrtex
Dario
That's the problem mate, we have had a SC which I stand by is a brilliant idea, the problem is and was there are no random events, no cars go off, no collisions, the only way to bring out the SC was to have inactive managers who retire. So adding it again without adding these factors is silly. Don't take notice of the ignorant comments laughing at you it's a valid suggestion and you were not here years ago to see it so you wouldn't know. At least you now know the reason why it cannot be added.

Well, to be fair to the devs, how would you add driver mistakes without having the risk of exploits? Tie it in with experience? Some troll is gonna hire the least inexperienced driver to cause SCs every friggin race. Tie it in with health/fitness of driver? Trolls gonna troll (aka train em before the race). Its very hard to balance the factors that can contribute to crashes, mistakes etc., and you have to come to the conclusion that...

Damn, IGP Manager really isnt cut out for SCs
I know its an integral part of F1, but unless you find a way to ensure it is never exploited for one's gain, sorry bud, no chance.


also collisions are a pain in the a for the devs to code lol


I have an idea. Devs can add all the qualities of a pilot. The lower the amount, the higher the risk of withdrawal. There is also an idea how to solve the problem with people who buy bad pilots. Devs can set the minimum level of the pilot that the player can buy. That is, if a player is level 17, then he will be able to buy a pilot only from level 15 to 17



That really guts people who want to budget becoz they ran out of money or those who intend to save money by getting cheap drivers, also to address Astro Rider's suggestion:             Group of trolls: "IGHT GUYS GET THE WORST DRIVERS, OVERHEAT THEIR TYRES AND CLUMP EM TOGETHER MUAHAHAHA" (an unlikely but possible form of exploit, in which the devs are prob gonna use as an excuse not to add SCs). Dont get me wrong, these are good suggestions, but trolls are way more creative than that sadly.

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medal 5665
1 year 138 days ago
Just to make things quick and because of all of the reasons already given above.
This was the worst irl idea implemented on the game.  Andcwas rightfully and expediantly removed as it was also vsc used and that just screwed up the ends of races.
There are hardly any of us managers from 2 years ago whom want this to be put back, even though it always will be a reasonable and valid idea.
Do not forget, that it will only be those whom run out of fuel or do not set up at all whom will trigger an SC rightcat the start or in the last few laps as well.  The later ones are why people were not happy in the first place, what with those SC's and VSC's nousing up frontrunners races all of the time.

So.  It is a hard no from me.
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medal 5000
1 year 138 days ago
I just have a conclusion for this suggestion, with it also being a cautionary reminder.
SCs arent fit for this game, and if you have an idea for a suggestion in the game, PLEASE I ACTUALLY BEG YOU to at least search up if it has already been requested. If you literally type "SC" or "safety", you would've seen why so many find it a polarising issue so, tl;dr, Research first, post later.
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medal 4703
1 year 138 days ago
I don't know, I actually played during the safety car update back in the days, and I still think there are concrete ways to bring it back. I am sure devs learned from their "mistakes", so I would like to see how it would work in modern gameplay.
I think that luck should have a (not excessive) influence on the game (more than just in qualifying lottery). In fact SC is used in lots of Motorsports, so please don't just say "iGP isn't a Formula 1 simulator".

I would see the chance of having a safety car deployed as something that could mix the cards during one or two races (not every race of course) during the season, something that would make everyone focused to get the occasion to recover from a bad quali and ending up even on an unhoped podium.
I would also like to get it unlinked from retiring cars, because I'm well aware that there are retired drivers in almost every rank of every league. It could be instead something related to excessive tyre temperature (indication of an excessive push level), and of course with a right percentage of chance to happen, like before, not everytime tyres are out of the right temperature regime, but at least sometimes.

I am just suggesting what I think could be the solution, of course, but what I don't get is why there are lot of people immediately rejecting the idea in 2023 instead of making their own suggestions.
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medal 5002
1 year 138 days ago (Last edited by Dick Dastardly 1 year 138 days ago)
Lorenzo
I don't know, I actually played during the safety car update back in the days, and I still think there are concrete ways to bring it back. I am sure devs learned from their "mistakes", so I would like to see how it would work in modern gameplay.
I think that luck should have a (not excessive) influence on the game (more than just in qualifying lottery). In fact SC is used in lots of Motorsports, so please don't just say "iGP isn't a Formula 1 simulator".

I would see the chance of having a safety car deployed as something that could mix the cards during one or two races (not every race of course) during the season, something that would make everyone focused to get the occasion to recover from a bad quali and ending up even on an unhoped podium.
I would also like to get it unlinked from retiring cars, because I'm well aware that there are retired drivers in almost every rank of every league. It could be instead something related to excessive tyre temperature (indication of an excessive push level), and of course with a right percentage of chance to happen, like before, not everytime tyres are out of the right temperature regime, but at least sometimes.

I am just suggesting what I think could be the solution, of course, but what I don't get is why there are lot of people immediately rejecting the idea in 2023 instead of making their own suggestions.

Nothing much has changed in the actual races since it was last tried so not sure why it will be any different in 2023 we are playing same the game we did in 2020!

And if many who were unhappy last time why would they be happy now?  Regardless of reason for deployment many will be unhappy just like last time.  And many won’t make suggestions if they don’t believe it has a place in the game? 
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medal 5000
1 year 138 days ago
How much we have already written about this... In 2020, I was just starting to play, and I remember that the SC that was made there worked just disgusting. I remember if you were driving behind a lapped car there, then in SC mode it would slow down your car for a few seconds.
SC mode is a strange idea - if it is introduced, more than a half of the community will be unhappy. I would like to see SC in the game, but not more than in 10% of the races, and, of course, without those stupidities of the 2020 mode. We don't need a lot of casinos here. 
But many will be against it, and it seems to me that it is not worth introducing it.
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medal 5917
1 year 138 days ago
Imo we should have an aggression bar just like tyre temps, with This new meter you can essentially push harder to gain some lap time but it increases the chance of a mistake like spinning, cutting a corner and loosing some time. Tactically This is brilliant for strategy as you can decide when to give it full beans and when to hold back. Bring in the VC or full linked with mistakes would be super cool
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medal 5000 Super Mod
1 year 138 days ago
Dario
Imo we should have an aggression bar just like tyre temps, with This new meter you can essentially push harder to gain some lap time but it increases the chance of a mistake like spinning, cutting a corner and loosing some time. Tactically This is brilliant for strategy as you can decide when to give it full beans and when to hold back. Bring in the VC or full linked with mistakes would be super cool

Too much opportunity for a Flavio Briatore style exploit by running a car with max aggression to cause an accident and bring out the safety car. Either that or some people who can't finish in the points going full-on aggressive just for the fun of it.

We already have random and inexplicable events to mess with the races, it's called Openweather LOL
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medal 5917
1 year 137 days ago
Kevin
Dario
Imo we should have an aggression bar just like tyre temps, with This new meter you can essentially push harder to gain some lap time but it increases the chance of a mistake like spinning, cutting a corner and loosing some time. Tactically This is brilliant for strategy as you can decide when to give it full beans and when to hold back. Bring in the VC or full linked with mistakes would be super cool

Too much opportunity for a Flavio Briatore style exploit by running a car with max aggression to cause an accident and bring out the safety car. Either that or some people who can't finish in the points going full-on aggressive just for the fun of it.

We already have random and inexplicable events to mess with the races, it's called Openweather LOL



You will always get exploits in every game and every senario no matter what you do. If that happens tho you just remove from the league, simple :) besides my league is like my family we all respect and have a laugh together, I don't see anyone doing this on purpose.
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medal 5000
1 year 125 days ago
Hi, why don't you add or re-add the Safety Car, Virtual Safety Car, Yellow Flags or Double Yellow Flags, Red Flag, Blue Flag (for lapped drivers), Green Flag (free track), accidents, disqualifications, penalties, and events that could change the race classification and the drivers' and constructors' classifications, giving, in my opinion, a bit of realism and diversity in the championship. Even if you can not add all these things but some are more than fine in my opinion, what do you say, what do you think, give your opinion. Thank you for reading and thank you for your attention, have a good day.
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