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Drivers are manually pitting one lap earlier of a scheduled pitstop

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medal 5000
7 years 246 days ago
Hi, as I said in the title I noticed drivers are very often automatically pitting 1 lap before a scheduled pitstop and I have to cancel it each time. Of course there was more than enough fuel to reach the pits or the finish line and that's not only happening to me but also for a lot of other players.
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medal 5000
7 years 246 days ago
yeah this happened to me last race I doubted it with one driver and let the other one pit and the one that didn't pit crossed the line with fuel to spare
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medal 5073 CEO & CTO
7 years 246 days ago (edited 7 years 246 days ago)
This happened to me in the first race after the game went live. I had 1.2 laps of fuel remaining and pitted on that lap. Never saw this in beta, so not sure why it has started happening. It was 1.4 laps left when I noticed it flashing to pit and 1.2 across the line.

It's been brought to the attention of Ricky (the sim dev).
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medal 5000
7 years 246 days ago
Happened to me too, I had to add a liter extra to the next stint to avoid that.
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medal 5000
7 years 246 days ago (edited 7 years 246 days ago)
first race back yesterday in a while, had 3 laps on medium tires right at the end due to the estimation being out by one lap each time. i have adjusted for it in the second race, will find out in the next few minutes if it worked out or not.

the fuel strategy is all over the place for one in germany, i had pit twice on medium tyres, lost a certain win on that.
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medal 5000
7 years 245 days ago
Can you please let us know the race id and Driver id so we can look through the logs
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medal 5000
7 years 245 days ago (edited 7 years 245 days ago)
https://igpmanager.com/app/p=league&id=149
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=589281&tab=race
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=driver&id=32296
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=resultDetail&id=2719674

was running around on soft tires for 3 stops, i added an extra liter to each and according to the lap predictions i would of had enough fuel to race on for another few laps.

this is the previous race where i also had the fuel issue

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=589278&tab=race
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=resultDetail&id=2717103

i hope it helps.

edit: the latest race, it was again another certain win and robbed by the pit fuel problems.

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=589284&tab=race
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=resultDetail&id=2722735
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medal 5000
7 years 230 days ago
This happened to me again in Germany.

End of lap 10: 6.4L
End of lap 11: 3.5L and autopit

I didn't attend the race. on average 2.95L was consumed each lap, so there was clearly enough for my drivers to do 1 more lap. I planned doing 5 stints, each 12 laps long. The same happened in all of my stints, so instead of doing 12-12-12-12-12 laps I did 11-11-11-11-11-5. I lost by 8 seconds in the end. I could have won if my drivers pitted on 1 lap later each time.
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medal 5000
7 years 230 days ago (edited 7 years 230 days ago)
Actually i was turning off auto pit to stop me from pitting a lap early
3litres showing but cars where using 2.95/2.96/2.97 per lap
auto pit comes on at sector one split timing gate when the car started the lap with 6.5/6.6/6.7
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=resultDetail&id=2762579
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=resultDetail&id=2762581

iGP doesn't have submitting 1litre of fuel for testing at end of race I hope or I'm disqualified or getting 10 place Grid Penalty next race finishing with 0.7L lol
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medal 5000
7 years 230 days ago
I didn't attend the race, so couldn't cancel autopit. What I'm saying is that in some races drivers pit 1 lap early and in some races they don't. This is unpredictable for the managers.
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medal 5000
7 years 230 days ago
The problem I think is the timing line by the time the car gets to S1 it has 5.9L with 2laps to go, triggering auto-pit. Maybe should set it to S3 the start/finish line.


But i know nothing about it or how it's setup to work. Ricky is the number cruncher as far as I know.

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medal 5000
7 years 230 days ago
Count me in.
I don't think this is happening on a special track or for a special driver. More likely is happening when you are good for another lap but there will be less than 1.0Litres +/- at the end. It's making me wait to push harder after the pit entrance.
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medal 5000
7 years 230 days ago
I saw it last night in BRL. Pretty much every stop I had to cancel the pit. I think Jason lost the win because of it, he ended up doing 12 lap stints which made no sense, but a 12 lap stint he would have been bang on the money.
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medal 5000
7 years 230 days ago
We will never know until next season if he would of won or not. The longer Jason stay offline the better, all my rep points are coming from beating him
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medal 5073 CEO & CTO
7 years 230 days ago
I've been raising this issue with the sim dev but it's a case of it will be addressed when he gets on to that task. There are some higher priority issues he has ahead of this, but it has also been irritating me every day in my races!

This didn't show up in beta testing, so it's unusual, but it's quite a simple problem. Especially now that the cars can roll when they run out of fuel, there's less reason for the AI to be so careful with the fuel when it decides to pit. It used to be that it could simply not afford to run the risk of being even close to running out, since the car would instantly retire in the old iGP. This is probably a throwback to that. It might also be impacted by the fuel economy attribute, we shall see when it gets addressed.
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medal 5000
7 years 230 days ago
* I meant to say obviously, that he was doing 11 lap stints, when I expect he was aiming for 12.
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medal 5000
7 years 227 days ago
Thanks for the reports. I'm investigating this. It seems that the sim is being far too cautious in its fuel estimation now fuel economy is a factor. Apologies for the inconvenience, I know this can be irksome.
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medal 5000
7 years 227 days ago
James
The problem I think is the timing line by the time the car gets to S1 it has 5.9L with 2laps to go, triggering auto-pit. Maybe should set it to S3 the start/finish line.
But i know nothing about it or how it's setup to work. Ricky is the number cruncher as far as I know.


You'll probably be interested to know that it's actually calculated from distance to the garage plus a little extra.

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medal 5000
7 years 226 days ago
Yeah, looking at the right calculations during practice when setting up for the race, i noticed that sometimes it would offer say a 2 stop strategy on mediums and the number of laps of fuel per stint, i look into that stint and discover the fuel amount can be as much as half a liter off and i would have to adjust it so it makes the number of laps plus a little extra, never know if it should be needed.
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medal 5000
7 years 226 days ago
Ricky
James
The problem I think is the timing line by the time the car gets to S1 it has 5.9L with 2laps to go, triggering auto-pit. Maybe should set it to S3 the start/finish line.
But i know nothing about it or how it's setup to work. Ricky is the number cruncher as far as I know.


You'll probably be interested to know that it's actually calculated from distance to the garage plus a little extra.



Then there is something very wrong. My pit box is way past the start/finish line and it's wanting me to pit when i have enough fuel to 2more laps and I'm able to use highest push level on the last lap and still finish the race with 0.something
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