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medal 5856
265 days ago (Last edited by Bruno Rodríguez 265 days ago)
Hi, I just noticed that in advance strategy, the option to fit inters or full wets is only (above) 0 to 5 mm.

I think we should be able to be more precise and be able to select from tenths (0.1, 0.2, 0.3mm etc.) I usually only fit inters if the water level is above 0.2mm, and full wets of it is 3.2mm or more.

As it stands the strategy is very limited. With a 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5mm.

What do you think? I believe it could be an easy addition 
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medal 5076
265 days ago
Bruno
Hi, I just noticed that in advance strategy, the option to fit inters or full wets is only 1 to 5 mm.


It’s actually 0 to 5mm.  If setting advanced strategy for inters always set it to 0mm.  This ensure as soon as water is on the track your advanced strategy will activate

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medal 5856
265 days ago

Dick
Bruno
Hi, I just noticed that in advance strategy, the option to fit inters or full wets is only 1 to 5 mm.


It’s actually 0 to 5mm.  If setting advanced strategy for inters always set it to 0mm.  This ensure as soon as water is on the track your advanced strategy will activate



That´s what I currently do, I wanted to say 0 to 5mm, I will edit it. However this is what I meant, I don´t want to set inters at 0.1mm or 0.2mm, only when it is 0.3mm or above, or "above 0.2mm".

And if possible adding a second option for full wets. For example:

If water above xx mm use inters.

If water above xy mm use wets.

But I would be happy with being able to pick by 0.0mm tenths.

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medal 5076
265 days ago
Bruno

Dick
Bruno
Hi, I just noticed that in advance strategy, the option to fit inters or full wets is only 1 to 5 mm.


It’s actually 0 to 5mm.  If setting advanced strategy for inters always set it to 0mm.  This ensure as soon as water is on the track your advanced strategy will activate



That´s what I currently do, I wanted to say 0 to 5mm, I will edit it. However this is what I meant, I don´t want to set inters at 0.1mm or 0.2mm, only when it is 0.3mm or above, or "above 0.2mm".

And if possible adding a second option for full wets. For example:

If water above xx mm use inters.

If water above xy mm use wets.

But I would be happy with being able to pick by 0.0mm tenths.


That’s pretty pointless in my opinion.  You are asking a studio struggling for resources to do for a major rewrite for something that will make little difference to you unless you are never online or race in an offline league.  As for the second request it’s another request to destroy the strategy element of the game.  Just my opinion of course and others might agree with you. 


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medal 5297
264 days ago

Dick
Bruno

Dick
Bruno
Hi, I just noticed that in advance strategy, the option to fit inters or full wets is only 1 to 5 mm.


It’s actually 0 to 5mm.  If setting advanced strategy for inters always set it to 0mm.  This ensure as soon as water is on the track your advanced strategy will activate



That´s what I currently do, I wanted to say 0 to 5mm, I will edit it. However this is what I meant, I don´t want to set inters at 0.1mm or 0.2mm, only when it is 0.3mm or above, or "above 0.2mm".

And if possible adding a second option for full wets. For example:

If water above xx mm use inters.

If water above xy mm use wets.

But I would be happy with being able to pick by 0.0mm tenths.


That’s pretty pointless in my opinion.  You are asking a studio struggling for resources to do for a major rewrite for something that will make little difference to you unless you are never online or race in an offline league.  As for the second request it’s another request to destroy the strategy element of the game.  Just my opinion of course and others might agree with you. 





Why is that pointless ? As Bruno said, i dont want iters on my car when rain is at 0.1 or 0.2mm. 

In many cases rain stops and the track is still wet (1,2mm, 2.5mm etc) and cars immediately pit for dry tires. 
This aint much of coding, only 2-3 IF functions.
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medal 5000
264 days ago

Del

Dick
Bruno

Dick
Bruno
Hi, I just noticed that in advance strategy, the option to fit inters or full wets is only 1 to 5 mm.


It’s actually 0 to 5mm.  If setting advanced strategy for inters always set it to 0mm.  This ensure as soon as water is on the track your advanced strategy will activate



That´s what I currently do, I wanted to say 0 to 5mm, I will edit it. However this is what I meant, I don´t want to set inters at 0.1mm or 0.2mm, only when it is 0.3mm or above, or "above 0.2mm".

And if possible adding a second option for full wets. For example:

If water above xx mm use inters.

If water above xy mm use wets.

But I would be happy with being able to pick by 0.0mm tenths.


That’s pretty pointless in my opinion.  You are asking a studio struggling for resources to do for a major rewrite for something that will make little difference to you unless you are never online or race in an offline league.  As for the second request it’s another request to destroy the strategy element of the game.  Just my opinion of course and others might agree with you. 





Why is that pointless ? As Bruno said, i dont want iters on my car when rain is at 0.1 or 0.2mm. 

In many cases rain stops and the track is still wet (1,2mm, 2.5mm etc) and cars immediately pit for dry tires. 
This aint much of coding, only 2-3 IF functions.

Whether there is 0.1mm or 0.2mm water on the track makes little difference to performance and if when you offline your car is pitting as soon as rain stops then you aren’t using Advanced Strategy correctly.


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medal 5166
264 days ago
https://prnt.sc/D8M9eyyB6Dwo

Please explain to use usage of AS. 
As you can see there are only 2 options and what we are saying here is that we want to be able to setup water level from 0.1mm to + acconrding to the rain in the game.

What when rain stops, and water is stil on track ? You have that in option 2 of AS (use tires if it stops raining).
Rain stopped, but its still water on track.
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medal 5000
264 days ago (Last edited by Skid Solo 264 days ago)
Ademir
https://prnt.sc/D8M9eyyB6Dwo

Please explain to use usage of AS. 
As you can see there are only 2 options and what we are saying here is that we want to be able to setup water level from 0.1mm to + according to the rain in the game.

What when rain stops, and water is stil on track ? You have that in option 2 of AS (use tires if it stops raining).
Rain stopped, but its still water on track.


I’m not going to explain the intricacies  of Advanced Strategy as there is already a very long thread on this in Help & Support, but a few observations to push you in right direction.


1.AS only works when you are offline.  If you are attending live races it is disabled as you can manually manage your tyre strategy during the race.  The only exception to this is you can set up so that if it rains in qualifying you will qualify on inters/wets depending on instructions and if it stops raining before race you can change back to dry tyres for the race.

2.  Looking at your example you have set AS for 1mm so you won’t change tyres until water is above this level.  You are better changing to 0mm then as soon as there is any water on the track your AS will activate.

3.  You haven’t set any laps for when it stops raining before changing tyres.  This means that even if there is say 2mm of water on the track you will pit for drys.  Depending on the track and temperature the water may clear quickly or take rest of race before the track is dry so you need to build up experience of how each track behaves once rain stops.  Sometimes setting for 0 is fine and sometimes you need to set it much higher if it is a track which takes a long time to dry.  There is of course an element of luck involved here since it’s impossible to 100% predict future weather.

Finally, AS has its own quirks when you are offline and won’t always do what you expect (see thread on Advanced Strategy in Help & Support for more info).

As I said at beginning of thread if you are attending races then it only helps with tyres for qualifying as described and explained with examples in the Advanced Strategy guide. 

https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/42023
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medal 5166
264 days ago
We are spinning in circle here.
We are saying that we want 0.1mm instead of 1mm for raining options.

Rain not falling doesn't mean that there is no water on track ! So if i set my AS (pit after 3laps when rain stops), and rain stopped but there is still 1.2mm of rain, my car will pit.
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medal 5000
264 days ago
Ademir
We are spinning in circle here.
We are saying that we want 0.1mm instead of 1mm for raining options.

Rain not falling doesn't mean that there is no water on track ! So if i set my AS (pit after 3laps when rain stops), and rain stopped but there is still 1.2mm of rain, my car will pit.


Yes you will and that’s the point of setting up correctly, or least trying to.  Why you posted screen shots showing rain at 1mm and pitting when dry after 0 laps though is a mystery since it is completely the opposite of what you are saying now.  Also you say you want 0.1mm instead of 1mm as an option, but you already got that it’s called 0mm the options you set activate when you go above these levels so 0mm = 0.1mm and 1mm = 1.1mm
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medal 5856
263 days ago
I know that these scenarios of rain are very specific and if you're attending live races it has almost no use, as a live manager is always better.

I want to remark that I am not in an offline league, however at times I do my set up 2h before the race or even 30 mins. Then it  starts raining at 0.1 or 0.2mm and I do not want the game to put inters for me, I want an option to select inters if above 0.2mm and full wets if above 3.2mm for example.

Because at the moment, if it's raining at 2.5mm advance strategy will put inters, but if when the race starts it is 3.5mm and let's say I am late for 2 minutes and I cannot change to full wets on the grid, then I am lost.

I know these are very specific situations and this change is not critical by any means, just something cool I thought of since the game should let you decide every tiny bit of strategy as a good manager game.

Cheers
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medal 5176 Super Mod
263 days ago

Bruno
I know that these scenarios of rain are very specific and if you're attending live races it has almost no use, as a live manager is always better.

I want to remark that I am not in an offline league, however at times I do my set up 2h before the race or even 30 mins. Then it  starts raining at 0.1 or 0.2mm and I do not want the game to put inters for me, I want an option to select inters if above 0.2mm and full wets if above 3.2mm for example.

Because at the moment, if it's raining at 2.5mm advance strategy will put inters, but if when the race starts it is 3.5mm and let's say I am late for 2 minutes and I cannot change to full wets on the grid, then I am lost.

I know these are very specific situations and this change is not critical by any means, just something cool I thought of since the game should let you decide every tiny bit of strategy as a good manager game.

Cheers



To me, what you are asking for here is to remove one of the benefits of being active, online and in time for the race. I’m not sure how I feel about that.
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