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medal 5000
7 years 236 days ago
Is there a bug as an 82kg lower level driver is beating 51kg higher level drivers constantly, this does not compute?
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medal 5000
7 years 234 days ago
any ideas?
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medal 5000
7 years 234 days ago
Also there is a big difference between manager lvl (15 vs 20). If there hasn't been a big change in the "mechanics" of the game in the last period, it means that we have a bug in my opinion.
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medal 5000
7 years 234 days ago
Post the links of the drivers might just have more talent or experience or both
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medal 5000
7 years 234 days ago
FATopolous 82kg https://igpmanager.com/app/d=driver&id=881819
Hamilton 51kg https://igpmanager.com/app/d=driver&id=980209
Hunt 46kg https://igpmanager.com/app/d=driver&id=778166

thanks for looking James
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medal 5000
7 years 234 days ago
Do polar bears have the best car design by any chance?

done one extra stop in the last race lower fuel fresher tyres
but it's a bit like what I was asking Jason a few days ago, is a low weight driver on low weight fuel a bad combination?
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medal 5000
7 years 234 days ago (edited 7 years 234 days ago)
Good question, no idea but I did wonder if training weight was really a good idea. Another one that came up lately and fits here would be:
Does training Mental skills actually make (young) drivers slower?
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medal 5000
7 years 234 days ago
Uhm...
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medal 5000
7 years 234 days ago
Hi James, no I think its impossible for Polar Bear to have the best car as he's level 15 and I'm level 20 and get 20 points per race to upgrade. Earlier on in the season he's won races on the same strategy as me.
@Daniel I can't see how it would make them slower if they are more mentally prepared for races i.e visualising, focusing.etc.
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medal 5000
7 years 234 days ago
I've noticed in the past that different heights and weights work better on different tracks using the same strategies for both drivers. Taking the drivers weight down to as low as it goes might cancel it out.

I know in olden days of F1 when there was re-fueling teams worked closely with the fuel suppliers to formulate the perfect blends of fuel to optimizes power & efficiency, not only that they used larger or smaller sized fuel tanks to optimize overall performances of their cars. THIS might be in the background of the games simulator only the DEV's would know that. It would point towards why different driver weights work better in different places.

But who knows, it's all up to everyones own imputation of how things should run. That's part of the reason the forums are here I think, to spark debates!
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medal 5000
7 years 234 days ago (edited 7 years 234 days ago)
Dave
Hi James, no I think its impossible for Polar Bear to have the best car as he's level 15 and I'm level 20 and get 20 points per race to upgrade. Earlier on in the season he's won races on the same strategy as me.
@Daniel I can't see how it would make them slower if they are more mentally prepared for races i.e visualising, focusing.etc.


Research would tell who has the best car, if his team name is in 3-4 areas and your only in one it's telling you his car is better.

I forgot suppliers +1 doesn't show in research so you can spoof it by being 1, 2 or 3 points shy depending on the suppliers you have.
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medal 5000
7 years 234 days ago
Younger drivers have I would say have less fear, but I have been toying around with Drivers Abilities and Mental Rates with my Toymotor team and even this team while training up the drivers. 20 is best
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medal 5000
7 years 233 days ago
Hi James thanks for your replies, my car 4 main attributes were on 100 and he confirmed his wasn't. Its just weird, i'd never expect a car to win with an extra 31 bags of sugar on board
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medal 5000
7 years 233 days ago
That works both ways If you added 31kg (31 bags of sugar) you might have better balance in the car

We don't know what the weight limits are if there even are any. It doesn't tell us what the weight of the car is or the weight of the engine or total weight car, engine and driver. If all 3 drivers had the same car and same strategy it would be easy to find out what is better.
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medal 5000
7 years 233 days ago
Normally more mental skills is better, but I heard now from two or three manager that they had very young driver that were really quick, faster than their higher skilled team mate, but only until they got trained in mental skills.

Different heights performing better on certain tracks makes sense. They prefer slightly different setups. Those setups might fit better for certain tracks and some less so. So in the latter case either the setup isn't perfect or they drive with one they don't like as much which probably lowers performance slightly as well.

Weight is indeed a problem, we just don't know enough how it's calculated, if there is ballast or weight distribution.

The drivers of one of the teams in our league are a mystery too. For several races one is quicker by quite a lot, then the other takes over. Well, more precise would be slower because the slower driver seems to drop in performance against most other cars in the league as well, not just the teammate.
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medal 5000
7 years 233 days ago (edited 7 years 233 days ago)
The lower the drivers weight the higher the driver wants the cars ride-height.
Would that be causing the problem?
Should it be the other way around. Heavier driver should have higher ride-height not lower as he is heavier?

Guess the other way of looking at is the driver is lighter therefore needs it higher in order to push the car into the ground. hahaha the puzzle continues!
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medal 5000
7 years 233 days ago (edited 7 years 233 days ago)
If we take Rednote's performance last season as an example it might throw up some insights.

S.Wolff I trained her up doing Mental before Drivers Ability. She had 2 podium finishes.
A.Wurz I trained up Drivers Ability before Mental. He never had any podiums.
Wurz was finishing in the points well before Wolff but Wolff won a race at the end of the season and finished ahead in the standings.


I do some weird and wonderful strategies I can tell you trying things out and learn stuff at the same time, I refuse to fall into this SS rules battles.
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medal 5000
7 years 231 days ago
6'1" 163lbs


5'1" 105lbs
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medal 5000
7 years 231 days ago
cheers James, so looking at them practice times the weight of a driver is somehow offset in the weight of the car meaning training drivers weight down to 46F/51M is pointless as it serves no advantage.
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medal 5000
7 years 231 days ago
To some extent that's actually logical in comparison to real F1. The minimum weight of the car required by rules includes the driver so mostly only teams too short on budget to make their car light enough would have to go into the extremes with driver weight. Although some teams develop to give their drivers more room and others spend that weight elsewhere and demand from their drivers to have their weight under tight control. We don't have that kind of fine details here. Car weight might be still hidden in one of the attributes, though.
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