Leaving Leagues

I think the current system needs changing.. My proposal;

You can leave/join a league at anytime provided the season has NOT started, so if the season has started, nobody is allowed to leave.
If the tiers is a league are not full, people can join at anytime but again, the can't leave until the season is over.

Two things;
1. People who are in a position for promotion and then can't get promoted at the end of the season because people have left the league and promotion has been deactivated. The system i propose stops this.

2. I know some rookies/people who are new to game are going to be against this but if you are new anyways, wouldn't it be more benificial to stay in one league and learn things than to be hopping around ? (thats just my opinion though)

I don't like the idea at all tbh, mainly just for the freedom factor.

For instance I (with another team of mine) started a season in a league the other day, and after the second race of the season I had a few things change with my real life situation meaning I could no longer race at that time. The league only does 3 races a week, so if this rule was in place I would have to wait 5 weeks to join a league that I can actually play in? No thanks. This would also be even less appropriate for subscribers, since they would be trapped in a league that they couldn't race in, not being able to take advantage of the subscription they are paying for.

Or if a spot opens up in a new league you want to join pops up (EG if you are on a waiting list like a few of the best leagues have) you can't take the spot and it will go to someone else.

Or if the host changes the league time mid season to a time you can't make any more, and once again you're trapped until that season is over.

Considering many people pay for the game, they want to play as often as they can. If they're subject to certain limitations that may cause them to not even be able to play the game, well that's just not appealing to anyone.

Well I am firmly on the fence with this one!
I can see both sides of the arguement.  Both systems have good and bad points.

Maybe there is a third option - if  you start with a full league then the promotion stays (or something like that) - I don't know - as I assume it would be very difficult to code.
Any other suggestions are welcome.

Then Harsher penalties for leaving leagues in the middle of the season ?

the simplest solution is....
to allow everyone to participate in many leagues))

I would say that's even more complex

there is nothing to do in the game after you've hired staff and drivers, you just train them and select next race strategy. it's a 5 minute job. If I play in 10 leagues simultanuesly, it may make me busy for an hour, plus, I've got more income from more races.

I think a solution maybe don´t let anyone leave the league, for example, in the last 3 races. Until thta season ends, those users are forced to wait, that way they dont mess up who is in place of promotion.
Or to those who are constantly changing leagues, put some kind of restriction, like only join a league (or leaving) once a week or 2 weeks, or even more.

Think that would help maintain some stability on leagues.
(like to know what developers/moderators of game think of this idea)

Thats a good addition. In F1 after 75% race distance, full points are awarded even if the race is stopped so i'd say allow people to leave up to the last 4 races when people are not allowed to leave.. this should address the concerns Ponos Zalmosck raised

Yeah i think the last idea suggested is actually a pretty good one. 

If that is all the time you are putting in on the game you are not doing it right:)

It just needs to be more well known that there are no penalties for changing leagues at the end of a season. I didn't know that until I did it. It is not in the Guide.

I would like to indulge myself in a little whining  You only have two choices when promoted from a league with no drivers yet in the next tier. To stay with your league and endure at least one season of no promotions. Or to leave your league and try to find a league that is similar that has the next tier populated above the promotion level. At this time finding a similar league is not that easy, especially if you want to race 100% races. If you leave then you are abandoning other promoted drivers in your league and leaving the next tier even more empty than it was. 

If you stay with your origional league you have a relatively long period in which the compitition at the races is not that important and your income is significantly reduced by the low number of participants. I am surprised anyone makes it into the Elite  tier after the the wait for the Pro tier to fill enough for promotion to happen and the reduced number of teams promoted. This system has to drive quite a few people away from the game as they will stop attending their races and just set up their teams and then ingnore tham for a whole season or more.

Promotion and league switching need a serious re-think. This is the weakest part of this game

I agree with you. I'm now in a pro league with 8 drivers. We all have to wait a while until another 8 from rookie come join us so that we can have promotion.
But at least is a very attending league, almost everybody is at the live races.

But to evolve to a next level, this game needs "Official leagues", so that the ones who take this more "serious", i mean REAL competition with the best managers all competing in populated leagues, and driving them insane to win against others.

I'm only in my 11th race, and i already feel that "appeal", take on everybody that's better than me...

Under what is being suggested here, you can leave the league after being promoted to a tier with little or no drivers, provided as stated above that the season has not started and most if not all leagues allow a couple of days inbetween seasons so you can look for another league if thats what you want do to

But if you change to a league where some decide to leave, you're in s**t again. There you go again changing leagues... until get lucky?
Maybe having some "Official" leagues, to those who really go to the end of things, would be a "competition safety seal" for who wants to reach the top, not just passing a little time playing and then leaving.

This issue is certain one of the most complex to resolve within the game... have no doubt about it.

but something needs to be done nevertheless 

All this discussion is very helpful in finding a solution - so the more opinions there are the better.
I don't think there is any easy option.

yeah.. i hope more people contribute

There is one thing I am trying with the league that I host. I didn't think of it until near the end of our season so it won't help much for the first teams promoted. But I started a Feeder league for my first league. If the league fills enough for promotions I will encourage the promoted teams to jump to my first league pro tier thus helping to populate that tier. That will work pretty well for the Pro tier but may still stall for the Elite tier. One thing that I think would help is to keep the number of teams promoted at 4 for 2 car teams and 8 for one cars teams even at the Pro level so that the Elite tier could fill more easily.

Maybe some scheme of allowing host adjustments to the number of teams promoted would help.

Two cents: I would do away entirely with relagation for teams that have completed 80% of the races in a league. Having to stay in the current tier is bad enough without having to go to a lower tier and play through a whole season again. Of course I think this would also help the Feeder league idea as well

thats seems quite the heavy handed approach and would require hosts who actively regulate/keep up with the managers in the league