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medal 5000
3 years 78 days ago
Hi guys,

Just another idea😅
You know what is really pissing me off, when your driver laps another one but slightly before DRS..... honestly I do push 1 but no chance..... So u would like to have a button/option to say my driver that he should stay behind the car infront of him...

So how about a function like this
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medal 5000
3 years 78 days ago
or just disable drs from lapped cars and vice versa?
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medal 5150
3 years 78 days ago
As much as I sometimes despise DRS from lapped cars (when it's not in my favor obviously), I think it should be kept since it's true to reality and adds strategic possibilities.

Wrt the proposed 'stay behind' button: I think that's a nice idea, but I'm not sure how it would interact with  drivers behind you, i.e. What happens when you 'stay behind', the driver in front has push 0 and the driver behind uses push 5? Will this then lead to automatically conceding positions?
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medal 4929 Moderator
3 years 78 days ago
Well, I think so. If you'd go by stay behind a car you'd otherwise overtake with PL0 then it's likely to get overtaken by an opponent going PL5. Although if the car behind you isn't also opting to not overtake it's also pretty likely, as your car is pretty much sticking it's nose into the gearbox of the backmarker, to have to overtake both you and backmarker and thus ends up being the one giving DRS to everyone unless managing being just past you but not the backmarker yet at DRS line.

Given we get blue flags one day I wonder how that would/should be handled, as usually it both means having to let overtake and do that overtake. A risk to get a penalty if stalling it?
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medal 5128
3 years 78 days ago
Just think about the following situations 

1 (Lapping) - „you have a battle with 1-4 other manager for the victory. You are in front and your train comes closer to the lapping car. 4 corners before drs you set push level 1, because you recognize you will reach the lapping car and you want to get the last drs. Then last corner before drs your driver overtake the lapping car, you will get no drs, the 3 guys behind you will get drs and overtake you... bad, you lost position 1 and get position 4 instead. This is the point where I want to throw my mobilephone away...“

2 (DRS Train position 2) - imagine you are in the last round, position 2 in the drs train. You come closer to drs zone, push level 1 to be sure to stay behind the first.... but then last corner before drs, you driver overtake the first.... you give him drs, he take the lead back and in worst case P3 and P4 driver also overtake..... you finish P4 instead of P1“

These are just 2 examples where I would like to have the option to stay behind a car. And to answer what will happen if you say „stay behind“ ans the driver behind you is on PL5, well what will happen if you are on PL0 instead and the one behind you is on PL5 🤷🏻‍♂️
So let’s say the „stay behind Optionen“ is something more less then PL0
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medal 5128
3 years 77 days ago
I thought a bit more about this....
How about to make such a „stay behind button“ as an „reverse boost button“. So the option to stay behind us limited like the boost. You can do it a several times in the race until it’s „empty“ 

You could say instead of being faster with the boost, you will slow down with the „stay behind/reverse boost“ same mechanic but opposite effect.....
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medal 5003 Super Mod
3 years 77 days ago
JNS
I thought a bit more about this....
How about to make such a „stay behind button“ as an „reverse boost button“. So the option to stay behind us limited like the boost. You can do it a several times in the race until it’s „empty“ 

You could say instead of being faster with the boost, you will slow down with the „stay behind/reverse boost“ same mechanic but opposite effect....

If the devs introduce a "Reverse Boost / Brake" button, at the same time they might want to consider a "Rage Quit" button. Imagine the situation, it's Turkey, you've carefully planned it so that you're in second place on the final lap to take advantage of last lap DRS and just before the DRS zone... Boom! The leader presses his reverse booster button, your driver flies past and then get's re-overtaken with DRS.

At this point you're really going to need the rage quit button! LOL
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medal 5000
3 years 77 days ago

Kevin
JNS
I thought a bit more about this....
How about to make such a „stay behind button“ as an „reverse boost button“. So the option to stay behind us limited like the boost. You can do it a several times in the race until it’s „empty“ 

You could say instead of being faster with the boost, you will slow down with the „stay behind/reverse boost“ same mechanic but opposite effect....

If the devs introduce a "Reverse Boost / Brake" button, at the same time they might want to consider a "Rage Quit" button. Imagine the situation, it's Turkey, you've carefully planned it so that you're in second place on the final lap to take advantage of last lap DRS and just before the DRS zone... Boom! The leader presses his reverse booster button, your driver flies past and then get's re-overtaken with DRS.

At this point you're really going to need the rage quit button! LOL



This button is already there and we don't even have the "Reverse Boost" 😂
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medal 5000
3 years 77 days ago
Kevin
JNS
I thought a bit more about this....
How about to make such a „stay behind button“ as an „reverse boost button“. So the option to stay behind us limited like the boost. You can do it a several times in the race until it’s „empty“ 

You could say instead of being faster with the boost, you will slow down with the „stay behind/reverse boost“ same mechanic but opposite effect....

If the devs introduce a "Reverse Boost / Brake" button, at the same time they might want to consider a "Rage Quit" button. Imagine the situation, it's Turkey, you've carefully planned it so that you're in second place on the final lap to take advantage of last lap DRS and just before the DRS zone... Boom! The leader presses his reverse booster button, your driver flies past and then get's re-overtaken with DRS.

At this point you're really going to need the rage quit button! LOL


But every player has the same chance to do it.... you also would push the boost button if the guy in front wants to get away....so same procedure 

Or bit better..... boost and reverse boost is the sane „tank“ so both of them will reduce your „boost tank“ so if the guy infront „breaks“ you can boost away in the Same Time ..... sounds cool in my ears 😉
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medal 5150
3 years 77 days ago

JNS
Kevin
JNS
I thought a bit more about this....
How about to make such a „stay behind button“ as an „reverse boost button“. So the option to stay behind us limited like the boost. You can do it a several times in the race until it’s „empty“ 

You could say instead of being faster with the boost, you will slow down with the „stay behind/reverse boost“ same mechanic but opposite effect....

If the devs introduce a "Reverse Boost / Brake" button, at the same time they might want to consider a "Rage Quit" button. Imagine the situation, it's Turkey, you've carefully planned it so that you're in second place on the final lap to take advantage of last lap DRS and just before the DRS zone... Boom! The leader presses his reverse booster button, your driver flies past and then get's re-overtaken with DRS.

At this point you're really going to need the rage quit button! LOL


But every player has the same chance to do it.... you also would push the boost button if the guy in front wants to get away....so same procedure 

Or bit better..... boost and reverse boost is the sane „tank“ so both of them will reduce your „boost tank“ so if the guy infront „breaks“ you can boost away in the Same Time ..... sounds cool in my ears 😉



It would certainly add more strategic depth... Tbh I like this idea. In the same vein one could increase total Boost a bit to compensate for it...
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medal 5000
3 years 77 days ago
This is entering fantasy land guys...
But i love it all the same 🤣
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medal 5128
3 years 77 days ago
Fantasy is the seed for improvement 
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medal 5000
3 years 76 days ago

Stuffy
This is entering fantasy land guys...
But i love it all the same 🤣



wouldnt really call it fantasy as it kinda does happen in real life sometimes
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medal 4986
3 years 76 days ago
I would slam you with "Driving unnecessarily slow." drive-through penalty if I were a steward.

Imagine you get behind a driver that is shown double blue flags* and you don't want to pass him. You're pretty much ruining that guy's race. He is obligated to slow down and you're slowing down even more.

I get why it is frustrating in here, but you can learn to manage it from distance. Look ahead and try to figure out if you're catching them or not. If you're only looking ahead in the short distance, you're likely going to be caught out. If you follow their pace a while before you catch them you can figure out if it's worth slowing the train or pushing to catch him one lap quicker.


*when they will be implemented.
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medal 5128
3 years 75 days ago

Mihai
I would slam you with "Driving unnecessarily slow." drive-through penalty if I were a steward.

Imagine you get behind a driver that is shown double blue flags* and you don't want to pass him. You're pretty much ruining that guy's race. He is obligated to slow down and you're slowing down even more.

I get why it is frustrating in here, but you can learn to manage it from distance. Look ahead and try to figure out if you're catching them or not. If you're only looking ahead in the short distance, you're likely going to be caught out. If you follow their pace a while before you catch them you can figure out if it's worth slowing the train or pushing to catch him one lap quicker.


*when they will be implemented.



Yes, the situation with lapped cars I totally agree!


But there is still the situation in drs train. And there I still think the possibility of a „reverse boost“ could be a nice tactical addon.
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medal 5939
3 years 74 days ago

JNS
I thought a bit more about this....
How about to make such a „stay behind button“ as an „reverse boost button“. So the option to stay behind us limited like the boost. You can do it a several times in the race until it’s „empty“ 

You could say instead of being faster with the boost, you will slow down with the „stay behind/reverse boost“ same mechanic but opposite effect.....



Its a nice suggestion but then it could be taken advantage of also. What if P2 car does "reverse boost" and P1 decides to use regular boost and get out of DRS zone of P2? 


It would make tactics interesting. Use Boost or Reverse Boost
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medal 5128
3 years 74 days ago

Maikar

JNS
I thought a bit more about this....
How about to make such a „stay behind button“ as an „reverse boost button“. So the option to stay behind us limited like the boost. You can do it a several times in the race until it’s „empty“ 

You could say instead of being faster with the boost, you will slow down with the „stay behind/reverse boost“ same mechanic but opposite effect.....



Its a nice suggestion but then it could be taken advantage of also. What if P2 car does "reverse boost" and P1 decides to use regular boost and get out of DRS zone of P2? 


It would make tactics interesting. Use Boost or Reverse Boost


Nice mate! That’s my point 

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medal 5000
3 years 74 days ago
Hy gys  It could be that if there is a 1 rider title favorite then 2 riders could help
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medal 5690
3 years 74 days ago
Sounds like we need a "Sunday driver" push level, where nobody can get past the first car in front, before a DRS zone...

I mean, not even PL0...

You could even call it the "Caravan on an A road" level!
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medal 5128
3 years 74 days ago
Honestly, 

I think another pushlevel would be wrong..... it should be something like boost, something you are able to use just a few times. And if it would be link/conect to the boost it would be more interesting. Boost and „reverse boost“ use the same „batterie“ AND it won’t let you drive backwards, it should just reduce the speed. So even if you would use „reverse push“ very long, you will not drive backwards, you will just reduce the speed for the time.....
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