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PL to go faster or save tires

Must we change PL system

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Yes it is mainly used to maintain the temperature and it is not enough
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No the PL system is fine as it is now
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medal 5001
3 years 17 days ago (Last edited by Derferik Derf 3 years 17 days ago)
Perhaps the PL system which is used almost exclusively to maintain the temperature of the tyres is not a good idea.
It should just be used to attack in order to go faster (by damaging tires a lot and consuming more fuel) or to drive calmly (to save tires and fuel) to do longer relays. Maintaining the right temperature of the tyres shouldn't be our main problem...!
In iGP we cannot attack for 1 or 2 whole laps without overheating the tires. We can only attack on a few turns and then release the accelerator... In reality, when a driver attacks, it's over several laps... and after that he doesn't have to drive like a snail to cool his tires...
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medal 5001
3 years 17 days ago
Derferik
Perhaps the PL system which is used almost exclusively to maintain the temperature of the tyres is not a good idea.
It should just be used to attack in order to go faster (by damaging tires a lot and consuming more fuel) or to drive calmly (to save tires and fuel) to do longer relays. Maintaining the right temperature of the tyres shouldn't be our main problem...!
In iGP we cannot attack for 1 or 2 whole laps without overheating the tires. We can only attack on a few turns and then release the accelerator... In reality, when a driver attacks, it's over several laps... and after that he doesn't have to ride like a snail to cool his tires...


If you use push level just to maintain tyre temp, you’re doing it wrong imo. I use it to gain race pace, but off course without letting the tyres overheat or run cold too much.

You can sometimes make a bigger difference pushing just a bit longer and going just a bit overheat. Or using pl1 to get backmarkers drs, cooling the tyres off a bit, next lap you can push somewhat more.

I think push level is a good game mechanic because you can use it to gain pace or slow down just a bit when needed while you can’t use it indefinitely (cause then we’d all be on pl5 all the time)


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medal 4992 Moderator
3 years 17 days ago
I agree with Slo Bro, however there is a change I'd make to tyre heat that should go in the same direction as proposed suggestion above. I'd let overheat start with increased, and ever increasing, wear at first but also even slightly more grip and only if kept that way for too long and/or going too hot a, after a subtle warning one perhaps, sudden drop in performance and possibly vastly increased wear damage to the tyres.
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medal 5001
3 years 17 days ago

Frank
I agree with Slo Bro, however there is a change I'd make to tyre heat that should go in the same direction as proposed suggestion above. I'd let overheat start with increased, and ever increasing, wear at first but also even slightly more grip and only if kept that way for too long and/or going too hot a, after a subtle warning one perhaps, sudden drop in performance and possibly vastly increased wear damage to the tyres.


It’s an interesting thought, i think it’s a powered up version of what we already have. 


Ironically, it would add realism to a in principle non realistic system (as twist and turns heat up tyres irl and cools them down in igp)
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medal 4992 Moderator
3 years 17 days ago
Yes, it's meant as an added slight boost and time extension to higher PL at a cost of tyre life until a point, if pushed too hard and/or long, where it drops to current (severe) overheat performance but even more added wear.
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medal 5001
3 years 17 days ago (Last edited by Derferik Derf 3 years 17 days ago)
Hi Slo Bro,
I use the Push Level like you. I just wanted to say that in iGP the PL is mainly conditioned by the circuit and by the temperature of the track... not by the level of aggressiveness of the pilots. For example, in Monaco, when it's 15°C, you need PL5 to have the "super soft" at the right temperature. But in Spain, at 15°C, you need PL1 to not overheat the same tires. What does it mean...? That in Monaco the drivers have a very aggressive driving style but that in Spain they prefer to drive slowly to admire the landscape...? It does not make sense...

With my suggestion, each pilot would not be constantly at PL5 because at PL5 the tires would deteriorate very quickly and they would have to be changed sooner... so the strategy would be different from one who would save his tires to do a longer relay.
And as Frank Thomas said, we could imagine that at PL5 the tires could overheat and become less efficient ... but after several laps (5~10)... not 1 or 2 laps like now.
With my suggestion, we would adapt the PL to our racing strategy but we could also use it to widen or close a gap with the other drivers.
The races would be even more strategic...
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medal 5005
3 years 17 days ago
Of they increased the effects of heat on tyres (#fixthehards😅) then the games push elements would be more crucial IMO, and perhaps even tyre balancing and more variation ok strats too...
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