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medal 5000
3 years 92 days ago

Really?  Oh come on! 

Is it 50Tkns to scout and 50Tkns to promote one?   :(
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medal 5000 Super Mod
3 years 91 days ago
No, scouting is free providing you are not impatient. The list of drivers and staff should refresh every 48 hours, it only costs tokens to scout if you want the list to refresh earlier.

It's a similar system to accelerating the build time of HQs, the closer you get to the auto refresh deadline the fewer the tokens it costs. 
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medal 5460
3 years 91 days ago
It’s ridiculous Dan, you’re right. I have a lot of respect for the game developers, but now they are obviously and very hard pushing towards spending your own, hard earned cash. I don’t know how much longer I will go on, but this new system will probably mean the end of my igp adventure ??‍♂️ And promoting a driver is still way more expensive then before Kevin, pretty hard to understand…
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medal 5600
3 years 91 days ago
Bringing a driver up from the academy is absolutely waaaaay to expensive. Is it al about buying (massively) extra tokens? Please be straightforward and tell us, not in a hidden way like this. It’s a shame, I really liked the game, but I’m not going to follow this road.
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medal 5000 Super Mod
3 years 91 days ago
Guys, you're going off topic. Dan asked the question...

dan

Is it 50Tkns to scout and 50Tkns to promote one?   :(

I answered.

If you want to read a long thread discussing the new costs to promote drivers and staff click on the link below. The increased tokens to promote a driver from the academy is one of a number of changes that have either already been introduced or are going to be introduced soon. It's unfair to focus on this one change in isolation because there are balances elsewhere and I don't want to go through the entire debate again... New changes today. All about $
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medal 5000
3 years 91 days ago

Kevin
No, scouting is free providing you are not impatient. The list of drivers and staff should refresh every 48 hours, it only costs tokens to scout if you want the list to refresh earlier.

It's a similar system to accelerating the build time of HQs, the closer you get to the auto refresh deadline the fewer the tokens it costs. 



Well, should i rename my team to TOKEN ECONOMY RACING TEAM? IGP token manager? :P 


Let us know if changing a supplier, or practice laps are also going to cost us tokens any time soon pls.  because it looks like we are heading that way pretty fast.  

Devs: Stop doing that. Focus on the forum just for 5 minutes. We still don't have good filtering here. I search 'Academy' and the first post is from 2012 with no way to sort by date or anything.  
The forum looks Archaic!     (and maybe you can charge us 50 tokens per post) ;)  
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medal 5002
3 years 91 days ago (Last edited by Dick Dastardly 3 years 91 days ago)
Dan

Kevin
No, scouting is free providing you are not impatient. The list of drivers and staff should refresh every 48 hours, it only costs tokens to scout if you want the list to refresh earlier.

It's a similar system to accelerating the build time of HQs, the closer you get to the auto refresh deadline the fewer the tokens it costs. 



Well, should i rename my team to TOKEN ECONOMY RACING TEAM? IGP token manager? :P 


Let us know if changing a supplier, or practice laps are also going to cost us tokens any time soon pls.  because it looks like we are heading that way pretty fast.  

Devs: Stop doing that. Focus on the forum just for 5 minutes. We still don't have good filtering here. I search 'Academy' and the first post is from 2012 with no way to sort by date or anything.  
The forum looks Archaic!     (and maybe you can charge us 50 tokens per post) ;)  


The new system is acutally a cheaper way to get good quality staff, which are hard to find in the transfer market and often get bidded up to ridiculous prices. I just hired a TD (lvl 20, five star with all attributes at lvl 20, aged 25) for 50 tokens with a salary at just over 200k.  How is this more expensive?  It will last me for 50 seasons and with running contract down and immediately re-hiring the salary will always be low.


I can see for lower and mid levels it can seem expensive so they can just continue to use the existing transfer market until they reach a level where this improved system is of benefit.

Also tokens are not difficult to acquire for free and for mid tier teams if managing your team correctly there is no need to waste these on extra engines or constantly upgrading drivers etc.

They are some issues with the randomless of the scouting system though and the staff/drivers found need to be more approprate for your level (e.g. being offered T5 CDs or TDs is not much use to higher level etc).
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medal 5000
3 years 91 days ago

Mitchell
Dan

Kevin
No, scouting is free providing you are not impatient. The list of drivers and staff should refresh every 48 hours, it only costs tokens to scout if you want the list to refresh earlier.

It's a similar system to accelerating the build time of HQs, the closer you get to the auto refresh deadline the fewer the tokens it costs. 



Well, should i rename my team to TOKEN ECONOMY RACING TEAM? IGP token manager? :P 


Let us know if changing a supplier, or practice laps are also going to cost us tokens any time soon pls.  because it looks like we are heading that way pretty fast.  

Devs: Stop doing that. Focus on the forum just for 5 minutes. We still don't have good filtering here. I search 'Academy' and the first post is from 2012 with no way to sort by date or anything.  
The forum looks Archaic!     (and maybe you can charge us 50 tokens per post) ;)  


The new system is acutally a cheaper way to get good quality staff, which are hard to find in the transfer market and often get bidded up to ridiculous prices. I just hired a TD (lvl 20, five star with all attributes at lvl 20, aged 25) for 50 tokens with a salary at just over 200k.  How is this more expensive?  It will last me for 50 seasons and with running contract down and immediately re-hiring the salary will always be low.


I can see for lower and mid levels it can seem expensive so they can just continue to use the existing transfer market until they reach a level where this improved system is of benefit.

Also tokens are not difficult to acquire for free and for mid tier teams if managing your team correctly there is no need to waste these on extra engines or constantly upgrading drivers etc


No. For academy drivers is much much expensive

Staff is a different thing. Drivers from the academy are much more expensive now.
This is what the thread is about. So yes, much more expensive. If you are lucky to have a20 talented in the list  is 50t and that doubles what we had. So again, much more expensive!!!!
 
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medal 5002
3 years 91 days ago

dan

Mitchell
Dan

Kevin
No, scouting is free providing you are not impatient. The list of drivers and staff should refresh every 48 hours, it only costs tokens to scout if you want the list to refresh earlier.

It's a similar system to accelerating the build time of HQs, the closer you get to the auto refresh deadline the fewer the tokens it costs. 



Well, should i rename my team to TOKEN ECONOMY RACING TEAM? IGP token manager? :P 


Let us know if changing a supplier, or practice laps are also going to cost us tokens any time soon pls.  because it looks like we are heading that way pretty fast.  

Devs: Stop doing that. Focus on the forum just for 5 minutes. We still don't have good filtering here. I search 'Academy' and the first post is from 2012 with no way to sort by date or anything.  
The forum looks Archaic!     (and maybe you can charge us 50 tokens per post) ;)  


The new system is acutally a cheaper way to get good quality staff, which are hard to find in the transfer market and often get bidded up to ridiculous prices. I just hired a TD (lvl 20, five star with all attributes at lvl 20, aged 25) for 50 tokens with a salary at just over 200k.  How is this more expensive?  It will last me for 50 seasons and with running contract down and immediately re-hiring the salary will always be low.


I can see for lower and mid levels it can seem expensive so they can just continue to use the existing transfer market until they reach a level where this improved system is of benefit.

Also tokens are not difficult to acquire for free and for mid tier teams if managing your team correctly there is no need to waste these on extra engines or constantly upgrading drivers etc


No. For academy drivers is much much expensive

Staff is a different thing. Drivers from the academy are much more expensive now.
This is what the thread is about. So yes, much more expensive. If you are lucky to have a20 talented in the list  is 50t and that doubles what we had. So again, much more expensive!!!!
 


No isn’t over the life of the game.  You like many others are conveniently ignoring all the tokens you spend to find the drivers you want to sign.  Now by using the free refresh you avoid this cost.  Also you can’t just look at drivers in isolation.  Its the total cost of all staff which is important.


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medal 5000
3 years 91 days ago
Mitchell

dan

Mitchell
Dan

Kevin
No, scouting is free providing you are not impatient. The list of drivers and staff should refresh every 48 hours, it only costs tokens to scout if you want the list to refresh earlier.

It's a similar system to accelerating the build time of HQs, the closer you get to the auto refresh deadline the fewer the tokens it costs. 



Well, should i rename my team to TOKEN ECONOMY RACING TEAM? IGP token manager? :P 


Let us know if changing a supplier, or practice laps are also going to cost us tokens any time soon pls.  because it looks like we are heading that way pretty fast.  

Devs: Stop doing that. Focus on the forum just for 5 minutes. We still don't have good filtering here. I search 'Academy' and the first post is from 2012 with no way to sort by date or anything.  
The forum looks Archaic!     (and maybe you can charge us 50 tokens per post) ;)  


The new system is acutally a cheaper way to get good quality staff, which are hard to find in the transfer market and often get bidded up to ridiculous prices. I just hired a TD (lvl 20, five star with all attributes at lvl 20, aged 25) for 50 tokens with a salary at just over 200k.  How is this more expensive?  It will last me for 50 seasons and with running contract down and immediately re-hiring the salary will always be low.


I can see for lower and mid levels it can seem expensive so they can just continue to use the existing transfer market until they reach a level where this improved system is of benefit.

Also tokens are not difficult to acquire for free and for mid tier teams if managing your team correctly there is no need to waste these on extra engines or constantly upgrading drivers etc


No. For academy drivers is much much expensive

Staff is a different thing. Drivers from the academy are much more expensive now.
This is what the thread is about. So yes, much more expensive. If you are lucky to have a20 talented in the list  is 50t and that doubles what we had. So again, much more expensive!!!!
 


No isn’t over the life of the game.  You like many others are conveniently ignoring all the tokens you spend to find the drivers you want to sign.  Now by using the free refresh you avoid this cost.  Also you can’t just look at drivers in isolation.  Its the total cost of all staff which is important.



Avoiding that cost? If your were high level, you could scout a 20 talented with 1 or 2 tokens max. And if you were not high level, you wouldn't have this amount of tokens anyway so...   Not avoiding anything. Still much higher cost for my academy driver.  
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medal 5000
3 years 91 days ago

dan
Avoiding that cost? If your were high level, you could scout a 20 talented with 1 or 2 tokens max. And if you were not high level, you wouldn't have this amount of tokens anyway so...   Not avoiding anything. Still much higher cost for my academy driver.  


GP2 answer 

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medal 5000
3 years 90 days ago
Matteo

dan
Avoiding that cost? If your were high level, you could scout a 20 talented with 1 or 2 tokens max. And if you were not high level, you wouldn't have this amount of tokens anyway so...   Not avoiding anything. Still much higher cost for my academy driver.  


GP2 answer 




GP3 Comment. Sorry if you didn't like it. You can still avoid commenting for 5 tokens ;) 
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medal 5753
3 years 90 days ago

dan
Mitchell

dan

Mitchell
Dan

Kevin
No, scouting is free providing you are not impatient. The list of drivers and staff should refresh every 48 hours, it only costs tokens to scout if you want the list to refresh earlier.

It's a similar system to accelerating the build time of HQs, the closer you get to the auto refresh deadline the fewer the tokens it costs. 



Well, should i rename my team to TOKEN ECONOMY RACING TEAM? IGP token manager? :P 


Let us know if changing a supplier, or practice laps are also going to cost us tokens any time soon pls.  because it looks like we are heading that way pretty fast.  

Devs: Stop doing that. Focus on the forum just for 5 minutes. We still don't have good filtering here. I search 'Academy' and the first post is from 2012 with no way to sort by date or anything.  
The forum looks Archaic!     (and maybe you can charge us 50 tokens per post) ;)  


The new system is acutally a cheaper way to get good quality staff, which are hard to find in the transfer market and often get bidded up to ridiculous prices. I just hired a TD (lvl 20, five star with all attributes at lvl 20, aged 25) for 50 tokens with a salary at just over 200k.  How is this more expensive?  It will last me for 50 seasons and with running contract down and immediately re-hiring the salary will always be low.


I can see for lower and mid levels it can seem expensive so they can just continue to use the existing transfer market until they reach a level where this improved system is of benefit.

Also tokens are not difficult to acquire for free and for mid tier teams if managing your team correctly there is no need to waste these on extra engines or constantly upgrading drivers etc


No. For academy drivers is much much expensive

Staff is a different thing. Drivers from the academy are much more expensive now.
This is what the thread is about. So yes, much more expensive. If you are lucky to have a20 talented in the list  is 50t and that doubles what we had. So again, much more expensive!!!!
 


No isn’t over the life of the game.  You like many others are conveniently ignoring all the tokens you spend to find the drivers you want to sign.  Now by using the free refresh you avoid this cost.  Also you can’t just look at drivers in isolation.  Its the total cost of all staff which is important.



Avoiding that cost? If your were high level, you could scout a 20 talented with 1 or 2 tokens max. And if you were not high level, you wouldn't have this amount of tokens anyway so...   Not avoiding anything. Still much higher cost for my academy driver.  


I always spent a ton of tokens looking for the ideal driver anyway, so this may be cheaper as long as I eventually get the right combination of height and talent around when my driver wants to retire anyway....so there's pros and cons to it depending on the person I think. Not perfect, not terrible, just different than we're used to

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medal 5000
3 years 90 days ago

Liam

dan
Mitchell

dan

Mitchell
Dan

Kevin
No, scouting is free providing you are not impatient. The list of drivers and staff should refresh every 48 hours, it only costs tokens to scout if you want the list to refresh earlier.

It's a similar system to accelerating the build time of HQs, the closer you get to the auto refresh deadline the fewer the tokens it costs. 



Well, should i rename my team to TOKEN ECONOMY RACING TEAM? IGP token manager? :P 


Let us know if changing a supplier, or practice laps are also going to cost us tokens any time soon pls.  because it looks like we are heading that way pretty fast.  

Devs: Stop doing that. Focus on the forum just for 5 minutes. We still don't have good filtering here. I search 'Academy' and the first post is from 2012 with no way to sort by date or anything.  
The forum looks Archaic!     (and maybe you can charge us 50 tokens per post) ;)  


The new system is acutally a cheaper way to get good quality staff, which are hard to find in the transfer market and often get bidded up to ridiculous prices. I just hired a TD (lvl 20, five star with all attributes at lvl 20, aged 25) for 50 tokens with a salary at just over 200k.  How is this more expensive?  It will last me for 50 seasons and with running contract down and immediately re-hiring the salary will always be low.


I can see for lower and mid levels it can seem expensive so they can just continue to use the existing transfer market until they reach a level where this improved system is of benefit.

Also tokens are not difficult to acquire for free and for mid tier teams if managing your team correctly there is no need to waste these on extra engines or constantly upgrading drivers etc


No. For academy drivers is much much expensive

Staff is a different thing. Drivers from the academy are much more expensive now.
This is what the thread is about. So yes, much more expensive. If you are lucky to have a20 talented in the list  is 50t and that doubles what we had. So again, much more expensive!!!!
 


No isn’t over the life of the game.  You like many others are conveniently ignoring all the tokens you spend to find the drivers you want to sign.  Now by using the free refresh you avoid this cost.  Also you can’t just look at drivers in isolation.  Its the total cost of all staff which is important.



Avoiding that cost? If your were high level, you could scout a 20 talented with 1 or 2 tokens max. And if you were not high level, you wouldn't have this amount of tokens anyway so...   Not avoiding anything. Still much higher cost for my academy driver.  


I always spent a ton of tokens looking for the ideal driver anyway, so this may be cheaper as long as I eventually get the right combination of height and talent around when my driver wants to retire anyway....so there's pros and cons to it depending on the person I think. Not perfect, not terrible, just different than we're used to




OK, now I get it a little more. Still don't like it but OK.  Let's see if the next update goes the way i am feeling this game is going. 'Tokens for life' way 
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medal 5000 Super Mod
3 years 90 days ago

dan

Liam

dan
Mitchell

dan

Mitchell
Dan

Kevin
No, scouting is free providing you are not impatient. The list of drivers and staff should refresh every 48 hours, it only costs tokens to scout if you want the list to refresh earlier.

It's a similar system to accelerating the build time of HQs, the closer you get to the auto refresh deadline the fewer the tokens it costs. 



Well, should i rename my team to TOKEN ECONOMY RACING TEAM? IGP token manager? :P 


Let us know if changing a supplier, or practice laps are also going to cost us tokens any time soon pls.  because it looks like we are heading that way pretty fast.  

Devs: Stop doing that. Focus on the forum just for 5 minutes. We still don't have good filtering here. I search 'Academy' and the first post is from 2012 with no way to sort by date or anything.  
The forum looks Archaic!     (and maybe you can charge us 50 tokens per post) ;)  


The new system is acutally a cheaper way to get good quality staff, which are hard to find in the transfer market and often get bidded up to ridiculous prices. I just hired a TD (lvl 20, five star with all attributes at lvl 20, aged 25) for 50 tokens with a salary at just over 200k.  How is this more expensive?  It will last me for 50 seasons and with running contract down and immediately re-hiring the salary will always be low.


I can see for lower and mid levels it can seem expensive so they can just continue to use the existing transfer market until they reach a level where this improved system is of benefit.

Also tokens are not difficult to acquire for free and for mid tier teams if managing your team correctly there is no need to waste these on extra engines or constantly upgrading drivers etc


No. For academy drivers is much much expensive

Staff is a different thing. Drivers from the academy are much more expensive now.
This is what the thread is about. So yes, much more expensive. If you are lucky to have a20 talented in the list  is 50t and that doubles what we had. So again, much more expensive!!!!
 


No isn’t over the life of the game.  You like many others are conveniently ignoring all the tokens you spend to find the drivers you want to sign.  Now by using the free refresh you avoid this cost.  Also you can’t just look at drivers in isolation.  Its the total cost of all staff which is important.



Avoiding that cost? If your were high level, you could scout a 20 talented with 1 or 2 tokens max. And if you were not high level, you wouldn't have this amount of tokens anyway so...   Not avoiding anything. Still much higher cost for my academy driver.  


I always spent a ton of tokens looking for the ideal driver anyway, so this may be cheaper as long as I eventually get the right combination of height and talent around when my driver wants to retire anyway....so there's pros and cons to it depending on the person I think. Not perfect, not terrible, just different than we're used to




OK, now I get it a little more. Still don't like it but OK.  Let's see if the next update goes the way i am feeling this game is going. 'Tokens for life' way 


Personally I think people should be charged tokens for pressing the "quote" button. Haha
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medal 5000
3 years 90 days ago
Kevin


dan


Liam


dan
Mitchell


dan


Mitchell
Dan


Kevin
No, scouting is free providing you are not impatient. The list of drivers and staff should refresh every 48 hours, it only costs tokens to scout if you want the list to refresh earlier.

It's a similar system to accelerating the build time of HQs, the closer you get to the auto refresh deadline the fewer the tokens it costs. 



Well, should i rename my team to TOKEN ECONOMY RACING TEAM? IGP token manager? :P 


Let us know if changing a supplier, or practice laps are also going to cost us tokens any time soon pls.  because it looks like we are heading that way pretty fast.  

Devs: Stop doing that. Focus on the forum just for 5 minutes. We still don't have good filtering here. I search 'Academy' and the first post is from 2012 with no way to sort by date or anything.  
The forum looks Archaic!     (and maybe you can charge us 50 tokens per post) ;)  


The new system is acutally a cheaper way to get good quality staff, which are hard to find in the transfer market and often get bidded up to ridiculous prices. I just hired a TD (lvl 20, five star with all attributes at lvl 20, aged 25) for 50 tokens with a salary at just over 200k.  How is this more expensive?  It will last me for 50 seasons and with running contract down and immediately re-hiring the salary will always be low.


I can see for lower and mid levels it can seem expensive so they can just continue to use the existing transfer market until they reach a level where this improved system is of benefit.

Also tokens are not difficult to acquire for free and for mid tier teams if managing your team correctly there is no need to waste these on extra engines or constantly upgrading drivers etc


No. For academy drivers is much much expensive

Staff is a different thing. Drivers from the academy are much more expensive now.
This is what the thread is about. So yes, much more expensive. If you are lucky to have a20 talented in the list  is 50t and that doubles what we had. So again, much more expensive!!!!
 


No isn’t over the life of the game.  You like many others are conveniently ignoring all the tokens you spend to find the drivers you want to sign.  Now by using the free refresh you avoid this cost.  Also you can’t just look at drivers in isolation.  Its the total cost of all staff which is important.



Avoiding that cost? If your were high level, you could scout a 20 talented with 1 or 2 tokens max. And if you were not high level, you wouldn't have this amount of tokens anyway so...   Not avoiding anything. Still much higher cost for my academy driver.  


I always spent a ton of tokens looking for the ideal driver anyway, so this may be cheaper as long as I eventually get the right combination of height and talent around when my driver wants to retire anyway....so there's pros and cons to it depending on the person I think. Not perfect, not terrible, just different than we're used to




OK, now I get it a little more. Still don't like it but OK.  Let's see if the next update goes the way i am feeling this game is going. 'Tokens for life' way 


Personally I think people should be charged tokens for pressing the "quote" button. Haha



And why is that? ;)
(I shrunk the text don't kill me Kevin ?)
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