Uncle Albert medal 5000 9 years 272 days ago
Ok.. With the limit of 10 degrees to the weather.. We are still having some issues with the Tracks to Tyres combo.. It has now come to light that SS are the tyre to have.. Even at Monza.. O_O There are only 2 or 3 tracks that they don't work on.. but there is a VERY simple fix for this..
iGP to set the weekly weather temp.. 1 temp to cover the whole of the tracks.. Madness you think.. Errr nope..
If you are in a league that are on 7 days.. Then you will have 7 tracks set at the same temps.. but you have no idea what the best strategy for Turkey at 28 degs.. and then 28 degs at the British GP... but the time them 2 tracks come around again.. It could be set at 22 degs..
Yes this is a fix.. but as far as I can see.. It's simple and yet, it will bring a mix in from day 1.. iGP just need to set the temps on a Monday and ba da bing..
A quick simple solution.
Simon Thornes medal 5000 9 years 272 days ago
Maybe they changed this already? Todays race had temps of 34degrees in abu dhabi
Needless to say but my SS were red hot after 1 lap, but then so were everyone elses :D
Uncle Albert medal 5000 9 years 272 days ago
"Uncle
There are only 2 or 3 tracks that they don't work on..
;) maybe that is one of them..
There are 3 or 4 tracks that will go above the min temp settings.. So they will work as normal until they hit colder weather and then it will come in to play for 1 or 2 more of the tracks... Singapore is thing one that springs to mind..
I remeber asking about a min temp setting and if I recall, it didn't take that long to bring in... So this is why I thought that this way.. Until any updates, this could be a good way of bringing some variety to iGP... Bang it up to 35 for 1 week... We could even see
Hards being used on one of the tracks... :)
Yuri Kasdorp medal 5000 9 years 272 days ago
"Uncle
tbf quite a bit of that can be allocated towards me being in clean air from the start and having my drivers together, let them overtake eachother with DRS and win .2 per lap, which gives you the 10 seconds.
Having said that this might not be the best example, this is a big problem and SS shouln't be the quickest at track with high tire wear. My solution to this tbf would be longer times in the pits. Refueling in 4 seconds is kind of quick...
James Greer medal 5000 9 years 271 days ago
Pit stop times are maybe a bit quick but its hard for the makers of the game to set a pit time.
Times below are from entrance to exit of pit lane, changing tyres & re-fuelling unless stated.
AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 19.325s TYRES ONLY
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Mark Webber, RBR-Renault, 45.811s FUEL, TYRES, F.WING & SIDEPOD REPAIRS
MALAYSIAN GRAND PRIX
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 24.458s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Sebastien Bourdais, STR-Ferrari, 35.487s TYRE CHANGE PROBLEM
CHINESE GRAND PRIX
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes 25.105s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Nelsinho Piquet, Renault, 52.114s FUEL, TYRES, F.WING & STALLED ENGINE
BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes, 25.197s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota, 35.718s FUEL, TYRES, F.WING
GRAN PREMIO DE ESPANA Spanish Grand Prix
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes, 21.999s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota, 28.994s GEAR SELECT PROBLEM
GRAND PRIX DE MONACO
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Fernando Alonso, Renault, 21.348s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes, 32.058s FUEL, TYRES & F.WING
TURKISH GRAND PRIX
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Timo Glock, Toyota, 23.122s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota, 43.507s FUEL, TYRES, F.WING & STALLED ENGINE
BRITISH GRAND PRIX
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Timo Glock, Toyota, 20.538s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Sebastien Bourdais, STR-Ferrari, 37.452s FUEL, TYRES, F.WING
GROSSER PREIS VON DEUTSCHLAND German Grand Prix
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Mark Webber, RBR-Renault, 14.009s TYRES ONLY
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes, 29.659s FUEL TYRES F.WING
MAGYAR NAGYDIJ Hungarian Grand Prix
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Timo Glock, Toyota, 21.367s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Sebastian Vettel, RBR-Renault, 43.121s FUEL, TYRES, F.WING & SIDEPOD REPAIRS
GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Timo Glock, Toyota, 16.941s TYRES ONLY
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Romain Grosjean, Renault, 25.808s STALLED ENGINE
BELGIAN GRAND PRIX
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Mark Webber, RBR-Renault, 13.929s TYRES ONLY
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Fernando Alonso, Renault, 52.446s FUEL, TYRES, F.WING & SIDEPOD REPAIRS
GRAN PREMIO D'ITALIA
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes, 25.396s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota, 39.569s FUEL, TYRES & F.WING
SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Fernando Alonso, Renault, 21.361s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Sebastien Buemi, STR-Ferrari, 42.695s FUEL, TYRES, F.WING, SIDEPOD REPAIRS & STALLED. Unlucky Day :P
JAPANESE GRAND PRIX
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Jaime Alguersuari, STR-Ferrari, 23.191s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Mark Webber, RBR-Renault, 1:00.406s TRYES, F.WING, STEERING PROBLEM, DAMAGED SUSPESION.
GRANDE PREMIO DO BRASIL
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes, 22.903s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes, 50.009s FUEL, TYRES, F.WING, SIDEPOD REPAIRS
ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX
Quickest complete pit stop 2009 Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes, 22.369s
Slowest complete pit stop 2009 Sebastian Vettel, RBR-Renault, 25.650s TYRE CHANGE PROBLEM
Yunus Unia Blunion medal 5870 9 years 271 days ago
Well summer is on its way back, however I am not in an every day league so I don't have a problem with the issue of SS being used at every track due to the cold temps. Even in South America GP's everyday races SS were rarely used, which I participated in on my other account.
What I have an issue with is the unrealistic pit times. I'm looking forward to the addition of allowing leagues to ban refueling and get tyres refitted consistently in under 4 seconds or to allow refueling and refitting tyres in a minimum of 10 seconds.
James Greer medal 5000 9 years 270 days ago
"Blunion
What I have an issue with is the unrealistic pit times. I'm looking forward to the addition of allowing leagues to ban refueling and get tyres refitted consistently in under 4 seconds or to allow refueling and refitting tyres in a minimum of 10 seconds.
AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX 2014 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 21.825s
slower than 2009 because of newer pit lane speed restrictions
10s pit stop is not very realistic
Uncle Albert medal 5000 9 years 270 days ago
Hence me thinking that it would take 2 seconds to up the min temp, rather than messing around with other things..
This is only a very quick fix until these updates are released..
James Greer medal 5000 9 years 270 days ago
The averge pit stop is 2.3s to change just tyres so 4.3s to change tyres plus fuel near enough on the money.
Its the time to get from one end of the pits to the other is bit too fast. :D
Uncle Albert medal 5000 9 years 270 days ago
"James
The averge pit stop is 2.3s to change just tyres so 4.3s to change tyres plus fuel near enough on the money.
Its the time to get from one end of the pits to the other is bit too fast. :D
I am not saying that you are wrong.. but the code work would be for every track.. Where as this way. It's the most simple way to sort something out that won't take away from the main dev work on the updates..
Your way is right BUT.. If this update is what it says it is.. Then most of that will be addressed... this is a short fix until the updates come out..
I'm going to sound big headded again, but it was me who got the min temps in, in the 1st place and it didn't take much effort and it didn't play with the main system.. So this is why I thought of it this way around..
We have had no updates for a while.. for reasons.. So anything that is simple and basic that can be a game changer is what is needed for now... Until update time. :)
James Greer medal 5000 9 years 270 days ago
When are you ever big headed? it's your fault super softs and ruining the game :P :D
I know what you are saying. :)
As far as the code writing side of it goes they just need to edit the time they already have wrote in for driving down the pit lane.
Its not like they are writing out a whole new code, whole new code would only be if they where adding new tracks.;)
James Greer medal 5000 9 years 270 days ago
I think we really need to take a step back & think about the way forward.
Super Soft compound tyres are always going to be the fastest tyre.
No matter what the track tyre wear level or temperature is.
But with that being said in real life if teams could choose a compound they would pick the hard compound tyres.
They would be looking to do a 1 stopper every race.
So where does that bring us?.
If we sort out the pit stop times set them to real life times, it will punish people that always use super softs.
So most likely everyone will change to using hards :D
Only way around it would be to set tyre allocation for each track the same as they do in real life.
Also an allocation of only 4 sets of each compound per race and you have to use two different compounds.
It levels the playing field.
Murk & Tifosi very strong in short runs followed closely by Rednote & Toymotor, But Cosurworthit & Wonder are very slow.
Tifosi have the edge over Murk, followed closly by Rednote & Toymotor then Cosurworthit & Wonder in long runs.
But in the wet Wonder have the edge over Cosurworthit, followed closely by Toymotor & Rednote then Tifosi & Murk.
Its hard to get a good balance in a game where the fastest power unit is 9 and the slowest is 5.
May want to think about changing Wonder to 6 & Cosurworthit to 7 would tighten the field up a bit.
I B medal 6494 9 years 268 days ago
The problem with having to use 2 compounds is that you can't set different push levels if you're unable to attend. Rather than level the playing field it extends it by quite a margin betwen those who are able to attend every race and those who can't. Assuming allocating 4 sets per race is for 100% races, what about 25% races would they only get 1 set?,
Maybe reducing the weight penalty for fuel carried would be a way to balance tyre types a little better. Hards aren't viable imo because the heavier fuel for a longer stint slows down the laptimes too much.
Mustrum Ridcully medal 5058 9 years 268 days ago
What if we are not allowed to refuel? I think if all people starts the race with the fuel for the full race then the only different will be the tyres compounds. It could be one way to make tyres less competitive while making the hard tyres better (because fuel weight)
Uncle Albert medal 5000 9 years 268 days ago (edited 9 years 268 days ago)
Can we ALL take a step back please and THINK about the subject title..
QUICK and EASY.. Hence 1 value being changed ONCE per week..
Like I have stated several times.. The pit times and so on.. ARE out of whack.. but if iGP changes them values, then they need a test crew.. Which they do not have..
The things you are asking for not only needs someone to change it all, but then sit down and log in to room after room asking if things are working.. (When it should be 20 managers testing 2 or 3 tracks per day for a week until it's sorted properly.)
Everything said after my post will need testers and a lot of messing about.. My idea is a 2 second job and a hold until the new updates. :)
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Edit update: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Jack or another Dev.. Make a server with just Monza only.. Invite 10 managers (Whose account stats will be frozen and re-set after testing.) Get them to race Monza at 35 degrees and see what tyres work then.. I bet you that the mediums are the main tyre if it's not the Hards..
Testers are needed.. but only IF the devs take control, make a test server and get people in to do nothing but test.. I'll be more than happy to sign up.. but only if feedback is taken and inputted properly.
Yunus Unia Blunion medal 5870 9 years 268 days ago
I'd love to be a part of testing something like that. It's a really good idea.
James Greer medal 5000 9 years 268 days ago
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The problem with having to use 2 compounds is that you can't set different push levels if you're unable to attend. Rather than level the playing field it extends it by quite a margin between those who are able to attend every race and those who can't.
Take the likes of Albert Park, super soft and medium compound tyres.
The push level for ss is back off the push level for the meds is take it easy.
People that do not attend the races get punished now, they use the wrong push level and it hurts their tyres.
So having to change push level is helping them rather than hurting them.
Its a management game to look after your tyres you need to be watching them.