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medal 5000
3 years 262 days ago

Mark

Doe
Kevin
From my perspective, fancy graphics are no good if the gameplay is ruined.

Please REINSTATE THE OLD VERSION OF THE GAME, AS A SEPARATE APP, so players can choose which one they want to play. I guess you would not be able to swap your team between the two versions, but that would be better than continuing as we are.

Many other games have different versions available, so I think that is the best way to keep the majority of players happy.


Good morning, 

I think is not necessary to write in capital letters. In case you missed it, players have a choice between 2D and 3D. Anyone can play in the mode of their choice. 
I will let you a thread written by Jack Basford yesterday. I don't know if you saw it: 

2D/3D Race Viewer - Reminder that you have a choice

Greetings! 



Are you ignoring the people complaining about all of the problems with 2D? I couldn’t even get it to launch 2D on two different browsers last night. Even if you can get it to launch the game plays different. Races aren’t close anymore, DRS is weaker, and it seems like all that matters is clean air now. This game had a great balance before that usually resulted in close, fun races. That has been destroyed with this update. It’s even more disappointing that nobody from the game even acknowledges that.



I find it more exciting. Trying to push as hard as you can, without the driver locking up in the corners. Of course it helps if you get a race where the tyres are working correctly and don't have to drive around in push level 5 continually.
But for the races they are working. Push level 3 has some small lockups on one or two corners and from what I seen each track has at least 1 corner where you can fly around it in push level 4. 
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medal 5549 CEO & CTO
3 years 262 days ago (Last edited by Jack Basford 3 years 262 days ago)
I have some good news, we've been working hard on a version of the app to improve car behaviours on 2x and it looks very promising. It should be with you next week. In the meantime we still recommend racing on 1.5x or 1x.

Re: tyre feedback - once we're a few patches in we're going to do a massive revision to tyres. That is long overdue. It will be a total change so that all tyre compounds can work on all tracks. We already started building it prior to 3D launch, but there wasn't time to include it.

Rhys
Whole league can't join race, 'Issue loading track resources'
I'm on 4.002 android version
Edit: now can't even get there, black swirly screen instead

Last night Microsoft Azure had an outage for around an hour, pretty much exactly as you made this post. That was nice timing, while many are still looking for problems to pin on us. In reality that had nothing to do with us and was completely out of our control. Sorry for any inconvenience that caused you or your league. In the words of Microsoft Azure themselves:


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medal 5261
3 years 262 days ago
Push levels are now completely useless. There's no difference between PL1 and PL5 except for the heating rate.
The old iGP Manager doesn't exist anymore. This has just became a spectating mode game and 3D viewer is the proof.

I think Jack and devs team never really understood how the game cluld work if you knew how to make it work.

Otherwise they would never have murdered it. 
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medal 5000
3 years 262 days ago

Mark

Doe
Kevin
From my perspective, fancy graphics are no good if the gameplay is ruined.

Please REINSTATE THE OLD VERSION OF THE GAME, AS A SEPARATE APP, so players can choose which one they want to play. I guess you would not be able to swap your team between the two versions, but that would be better than continuing as we are.

Many other games have different versions available, so I think that is the best way to keep the majority of players happy.


Good morning, 

I think is not necessary to write in capital letters. In case you missed it, players have a choice between 2D and 3D. Anyone can play in the mode of their choice. 
I will let you a thread written by Jack Basford yesterday. I don't know if you saw it: 

2D/3D Race Viewer - Reminder that you have a choice

Greetings! 



Are you ignoring the people complaining about all of the problems with 2D? I couldn’t even get it to launch 2D on two different browsers last night. Even if you can get it to launch the game plays different. Races aren’t close anymore, DRS is weaker, and it seems like all that matters is clean air now. This game had a great balance before that usually resulted in close, fun races. That has been destroyed with this update. It’s even more disappointing that nobody from the game even acknowledges that.

But it's more realistic and realism is what you asked for, right? 
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medal 5023
3 years 262 days ago

Jack
I have some good news, we've been working hard on a version of the app to improve car behaviours on 2x and it looks very promising. It should be with you next week. In the meantime we still recommend racing on 1.5x or 1x.

Re: tyre feedback - once we're a few patches in we're going to do a massive revision to tyres. That is long overdue. It will be a total change so that all tyre compounds can work on all tracks. We already started building it prior to 3D launch, but there wasn't time to include it.

Rhys
Whole league can't join race, 'Issue loading track resources'
I'm on 4.002 android version
Edit: now can't even get there, black swirly screen instead

Last night Microsoft Azure had an outage for around an hour, pretty much exactly as you made this post. That was nice timing, while many are still looking for problems to pin on us. In reality that had nothing to do with us and was completely out of our control. Sorry for any inconvenience that caused you or your league. In the words of Microsoft Azure themselves:


Information
Azure DNS - Investigating
We are currently investigating reports of an issue affecting Azure DNS. More information will be provided as it is known.
This message was last updated at 21:59 UTC on 01 April 2021





And for the bugs in determined tracks? (DRS incorrect, the cars slow in points of the track where they mustn't slow, pit lane entry, exit and position on the track wrong)
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medal 5000
3 years 262 days ago

Doe
Kevin
From my perspective, fancy graphics are no good if the gameplay is ruined.

Please REINSTATE THE OLD VERSION OF THE GAME, AS A SEPARATE APP, so players can choose which one they want to play. I guess you would not be able to swap your team between the two versions, but that would be better than continuing as we are.

Many other games have different versions available, so I think that is the best way to keep the majority of players happy.


Good morning, 

I think is not necessary to write in capital letters. In case you missed it, players have a choice between 2D and 3D. Anyone can play in the mode of their choice. 
I will let you a thread written by Jack Basford yesterday. I don't know if you saw it: 

2D/3D Race Viewer - Reminder that you have a choice

Greetings! 



Hi Doe, I hope you are well. I am well aware how to select 2D mode in Settings. At first the game play was very jerky but now I can’t get it to work at all. I cannot play in either 2D or 3D, I can’t watch a race either. The app is up to date. Sorry if capitals offend, but rather than just whinge, I was offering a solution that would help keep people happy. I love this game, but right now I worry about its future. I would be happy to discuss further by pm, if you wish. 

Regards, Kevin
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medal 5000
3 years 262 days ago
Jack regarding the tyre update, I think it's a bad idea having all 4 compounds working on all tracks. Should be weather and track wear dependent and only 3 compounds should work pretty well. Nearly all the tracks in the game are medium range wear though.

High wear tracks
Cold weather S & M 
Hot weather M & H

Medium wear tracks
Cold weather SS & S/M
Hot weather S & M/H

Low wear tracks
Cold weather SS & S
Hot weather SS & S/M
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medal 5116
3 years 262 days ago

CenSy

Mark

Doe
Kevin
From my perspective, fancy graphics are no good if the gameplay is ruined.

Please REINSTATE THE OLD VERSION OF THE GAME, AS A SEPARATE APP, so players can choose which one they want to play. I guess you would not be able to swap your team between the two versions, but that would be better than continuing as we are.

Many other games have different versions available, so I think that is the best way to keep the majority of players happy.


Good morning, 

I think is not necessary to write in capital letters. In case you missed it, players have a choice between 2D and 3D. Anyone can play in the mode of their choice. 
I will let you a thread written by Jack Basford yesterday. I don't know if you saw it: 

2D/3D Race Viewer - Reminder that you have a choice

Greetings! 



Are you ignoring the people complaining about all of the problems with 2D? I couldn’t even get it to launch 2D on two different browsers last night. Even if you can get it to launch the game plays different. Races aren’t close anymore, DRS is weaker, and it seems like all that matters is clean air now. This game had a great balance before that usually resulted in close, fun races. That has been destroyed with this update. It’s even more disappointing that nobody from the game even acknowledges that.

But it's more realistic and realism is what you asked for, right? 
I just want a fun game. Not a simulation of F1 where somebody qualifying out of the top ten has almost no chance to win. It had a great balance before and now it doesn’t.




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medal 5000
3 years 262 days ago

James
Jack regarding the tyre update, I think it's a bad idea having all 4 compounds working on all tracks. Should be weather and track wear dependent and only 3 compounds should work pretty well. Nearly all the tracks in the game are medium range wear though.

High wear tracks
Cold weather S & M 
Hot weather M & H

Medium wear tracks
Cold weather SS & S/M
Hot weather S & M/H

Low wear tracks
Cold weather SS & S
Hot weather SS & S/M



I disagree. We should be able to have as much strategy choice as possible. This also doesn't make sense or shorter and longer races
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medal 5549 CEO & CTO
3 years 262 days ago
A lot of off-topic posts that were not bug reports were made yesterday, but they were well written and mostly respectful so I don't mind responding. I'll just write a general broad overview of where things are going to clear this up.

Paul
looks like Jack is determined this is the way the game will go as 2D and the old race system is being phased out.

Nothing is being phased out. 2D will always will be in iGP Manager and it will always be the best mode for management. The long-term goal is to always offer a 2D mode and to integrate 2D in to the heart of 3D. It's not going anywhere and never was.

Reasoning by analogy is very limiting in terms of trying to imagine the future, I am seeing a lot of that and thinking too small about where we're heading. We're rebuilding what a game can be in this genre from the ground up, and that has to be done step by step when it's a live service. Sometimes those steps will seem out of sequence from the outside looking in, sometimes they won't seem to make sense, and you're not going to be able to connect the dots looking forwards and reasoning by analogy of what has come before.

Ironically, those most critical of the update are the ones who should be most excited about what it means is next. All of that energy they saw go in to 3D is about to go in to gameplay. I don't say any of this for anyone that is leaving to change their mind, those minds are clearly already made up. I say it for the people who are staying so that they can separate gossip/fiction from reality.
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medal 5000
3 years 262 days ago
Can someone please help me, I can't play anymore on mobile because app crashes and closes every time. I plat with an honor 9 lite. I can't follow my races even on pc because the launcher goes over the 100% of loading and doesn't stop. Please help me ?
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medal 5000
3 years 262 days ago

Mr
Can someone please help me, I can't play anymore on mobile because app crashes and closes every time. I plat with an honor 9 lite. I can't follow my races even on pc because the launcher goes over the 100% of loading and doesn't stop. Please help me ?



you using data or WiFi?
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medal 5000
3 years 262 days ago
Two more glitches I found in my League race at Hungary. The timer and the start were out of sync, and the race started before the timer had finished. Also the top speed was the same at 217 point something for everyone. This may be a glitch in the result sheet, or something more serious
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medal 4855
3 years 262 days ago
Jack
A lot of off-topic posts that were not bug reports were made yesterday, but they were well written and mostly respectful so I don't mind responding to those.

Paul
looks like Jack is determined this is the way the game will go as 2D and the old race system is being phased out.

Nothing is being phased out. 2D will always will be in iGP Manager and it will always be the best mode for management. The long-term goal is to always offer a 2D mode and to integrate 2D in to the heart of 3D. It's not going anywhere and never was.

Reasoning by analogy is very limiting in terms of trying to imagine the future, I see a lot of that and thinking too small about where we're heading. We're rebuilding what a game can be in this genre from the ground up, and that has to be done step by step when it's a live service. Sometimes those steps will seem out of sequence from the outside looking in, sometimes they won't seem to make sense, and you're not going to be able to connect the dots looking forwards and reasoning by analogy of what has come before.

Ironically, those most critical of the update are the ones who should be most excited about what it means is next. All of that energy they saw go in to 3D is about to go in to gameplay. I don't say any of this for anyone that is leaving to change their mind, those minds are clearly already made up. I say it for the people who are staying so that they can separate gossip/fiction from reality.


Honestly! You burned much money and time for such a bad Update! 


You want to make your vision come true!? Better to improve your actual thing instead of mess it up.

You have (maybe had) a very good community with very good suggestion to make the old game better.

But the best thing you have to do is make such a senseless update to 3D with no need!

You didn’t take care of any suggestion the community (your community) did.

- better qualifying like affected by fuel? No you didn’t 
- more option for hosts like tyrerules or no refuel? No you didn’t 
- and there are many more, just take s look in the suggestion section

Instead of optimizing a super racing management game you destroyed it with a useless 3D optic.

If I want to play 3D f1 Managergame I will play the Original F1 Manager or the Motorsport Manager, they did well in 3D

For me it seems that you tried to copy that games but all you did was a mess! 

So pls don’t blame the Community (Your Community) for not understanding your wide vision of a game. 

I love iGP, I will stay here and play also the new one.
I hope you will fix everything soon but it should be allowed to tell what I feeling..... all you did was a total mess.

Also your testing method is a joke if it’s right that you only tested it with QR.

Sorry for the words but my English skill is limited.
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medal 5507
3 years 262 days ago
Hi there, good luck with the fixes, patches and updates.
The league races have various issues, mainly the choppy video. Also, quick races, they are very slow. Seems as if it's running at half speed. 
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medal 5000
3 years 262 days ago

Richard

Mr
Can someone please help me, I can't play anymore on mobile because app crashes and closes every time. I plat with an honor 9 lite. I can't follow my races even on pc because the launcher goes over the 100% of loading and doesn't stop. Please help me ?



you using data or WiFi?



On mobile it doesn't work with both, on pc I use wifi. 
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medal 5507
3 years 262 days ago
Noticed now, after quick races car repairs no longer required. Is this a bug, or was this planned? 
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medal 5000
3 years 262 days ago
Noticed this too...
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medal 5549 CEO & CTO
3 years 262 days ago
JNS 886 - In summary, it seems I offended you with the statement that critics are reasoning by analogy and how that results in small thinking about what each move means. Your post was fundamentally a perfect example of reasoning by analogy though ("you're trying to be like F1 manager" etc.). Anyway, I really appreciate your support but please try to keep it civil. I know you come here to voice an opinion because you like the game enough to do so. We are listening to everyone.

As for what is going on in the wider the community, it's much bigger than a league. Quiet players are happy players. The ones that are enjoying it are way more than those who aren't assume, because they can only see their own league and those who agree with them in the forum (people come to forums to complain, for the most part - you don't come here when things are going well). It gives a very skewed perception of what is actually going on. Here's some data: since we offered the choice between 2D and 3D among the existing community the selection has been approximately 75% 3D. For each person that has left because of 3D around 3 new people have joined because of 3D. All of these people are the community too.
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medal 4855
3 years 262 days ago
Jack
JNS 886 - In summary, it seems I offended you with the statement that critics are reasoning by analogy and how that results in small thinking about what each move means. Your post was fundamentally a perfect example of reasoning by analogy though ("you're trying to be like F1 manager" etc.). Anyway, I really appreciate your support but please try to keep it civil. I know you come here to voice an opinion because you like the game enough to do so. We are listening to everyone.

As for what is going on in the wider the community, it's much bigger than a league. Quiet players are happy players. The ones that are enjoying it are way more than those who aren't assume, because they can only see their own league and those who agree with them in the forum (people come to forums to complain, for the most part - you don't come here when things are going well). It gives a very skewed perception of what is actually going on. Here's some data: since we offered the choice between 2D and 3D among the existing community the selection has been approximately 75% 3D. For each person that has left because of 3D around 3 new people have joined because of 3D. All of these people are the community too.


Hey Jack, 


First I didn’t felt offended for myself I just didn’t like your comment against „small thinking“ and the critics of the community.

Switching to 3D is also a good thing but the way you did was nearly the worst way. Because first you didn’t fixed the things which the community mentioned. Second you messed up the whole game with that update.

Sometimes its not the best idea to rebuild a game from the bottom on. And maybe the step to 3D should has been the last step, not the first.

So anyway hopefully you will solve everything soon.

And to be honest not everything is bad! I raced in Monaco and Aze, it was really nice (except the actual stuttering)! A complete new track feeling!
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