Ability to see fuel left, laps left, and tyre wear in non-2D mode

On another note, laps remaining is located in the P1's gap to the lead times.

Maybe some of you should stop whining about the disadvantage of being a non-paying user and just buckle up some coin. The makers did a tremendous job and deserve to be payed. Geez. You people always expect to get things for free?

Because the game is marketed as a "FREE-2-PLAY" FFS!

Yet the free to play part of the game is worse than some free to play mmorpg. I can understand why some people want to play the game but either don't have the money to spend on this, because other stuff is more important and not all of us are lucky enough to have jobs these days.

Yet looking at a timing screen for a 100% race is one of the most boring thing I've ever done. 

There are enough F2P FPS now that have got it right where everyone is on an equall foorting when playing against each other, yet iGP still can't get it right.

The only way to have proper amount of fun in this game is to pay into it. Currently I would see it as false advertsing, but you can actually play withoput spending any money. But proper enjoyment in this game can't be achieved without paying in.

Man, I work in advertising. Tell me something about ethics. 

The only sane thing I can imagine to make it more fair is this; all accounts get their first season free. After that, you have to pay or reset. That way, the disadvantage might be less big and races would be more fun for free members too.

LOLOLOLOLOL...

Read what I put.. I PAY each and every single month... Not the 1 year £20 special offer or anything like that. I pay just over £5 per month EVERY month.. and I have been paying for over a year like that... and I am one of the ones moaning that F2P should have the 2D and paid should have other things like faster development of the team / drivers / facilities.. All things like that..

Just simple extras - 200 Staff in the offices is max at the moment... Paid get 250 Staff... All little extra like that.

I also agree with Ethan.. It's it's advertised as a F2P game.. Then paid should NOT have a huge advantage in the actual game..

My basic philosophy is that paid users shouldn't be paying for a straight out advantage (that is, being able to see data critical to racing). Paid users should be paying for features (the better ui of 2d mode, further telemetry, livery editor and so on). Critical features to be successful should not be withheld and I'm willing to argue that if critical features are put in free mode and greater customizability and features occur for paid players, the conversion to a subscription would be higher.

It's advertised as Free 2 Play because IT IS FREE 2 PLAY. You can participate in the sim and follow the races without paying a dime. But you're not getting the full functionality any more than you would be entitled to sit in first-class seating on a flight by paying economy fare. For Pete's sake, people, the paid users are SUPPOSED to have an advantage. It's why they pay. How difficult is that to understand?

It's been stated over and over again that the devs are going to transition more information to the free race tracker as soon as they can add commensurate value to the paid players. So all of this whinging is pointless.

They are just pointing out that paying users should get in game extras, not an advantage. I don't think that's too hard for anyone to understand.

RE: Free FPS games - Like Quake Live. Free users are at no disadvantage and have full functionality in game but if you decide to pay you get extra things on the side. More game modes, more maps to play on, less waiting times when joining servers and things of that nature. You can still win and be the best in the world as a free user on a game like Quake Live. On iGP you can't.

I'm a paying user on two different accounts so I understand the argument that paying users should be awarded something, but I don't think it's being done in the right way. Paying for extra things, yes great idea. Paying to be faster, well tbh it's a game killer.

How hard is it to implement the tyre colour atleast to the free viewer? IMO it seems completely pointless to give free users the options to change their push levels when they have no idea how to control the tyres. It's like giving a blind man a car - There is no sense in this.

The other thing people have to remember though, is that the reason 90% of people pay for this game is because paying gives you an advantage. I would go as far as saying that if there was no advantage in-game to paying, almost everyone would stop paying. You'd essentially be asking iGP to run off donations, and in todays world lets get real - It is impossible to ask this.

You're talking about something that is different from a free to play game. You're talking about a pay to win game. Both games are marketed as free to play, but they are not the same. Some successfull free to play games offer absolutly no advantage to paid players, but some extra features, sometimes only cosmetics features and those games are making a lot of cash. a lot.

i'm also paying here, since i've started a few month back... i would love to pay to get extra feature like a LOT of telemetry data, to be able to search in all the daa available for every race... track condition lap by lap, push level, tyre temp, setup used for past race etc...

As a paid subscriber i agree. How about free to play players get no 2d race view, no sector times (just lap times) & no tyre temp gauge,(tyre wear only) but everything else is equal.

I would suggest to separate 2D league and non 2D leagues, so it is fair between all players/racers.

That right there should be the last word in this discussion. But of course it won't be.

I've read many topics about subscribers getting too much of an advantage, and with around 5 seasons behind me I still don't see what's all this whining is about. With 5 seasons of data, both wet, dry, different temperatures I can easily make a good strategy for upcoming races with just a few minutes of researching. Yes, sometimes it would be good to get some feedback from the tyres, but 9 out of 10 times I know what push level to use for the best outcome. 
Having the 2D pack would make me feel one of those monkeys who was taught to push the button for a banana. I like the challenges, and it's great to have a working strategy this way. 

I think you misunderstood me Jake, the intention of my post was to merely point out that players may get a 2D view for free if there was a 3D package. Not that there is a 3D engine in place, I do recall Jack mention to someone that it would costs alot of money to make 3D tracks, which is beyond the Companies capabilities currently, but this game is growing and one day, we may see even a 4D track? :D

If a 3D viewer was to be developed, I don't see it happening anytime soon, as to create such a thing would require alot of work, more than the work of just two people.

Unless the word developer is under my name, I don't know nothing unless I present it as a definate. Please read carefully, I'm merely a beta tester that provides feedback and is presented with programs to test, in this case, the webgame and simulator/viewer. I don't know the direction or plans of the company, excluding the things I discuss with Andrew if it conflicts or relates to my feedback. 3D thus far has never came up in our talks.

Tbh I think the 2D mode is fine. If there was a 3D one I think I'd still use the 2D one. A map is the best visual information you can get from cars on track.

Thanks for clarifying that David.
It is easy to jump to the wrong conclusions when you read past posts about 3D.

Daivd are you a Mod? This whole post has gone from what people are paying or not paying for then all the way to what 3D is like just because you mentioned it. At the end of the day some people can justify to pay for a game that they get some enjoyment out from wether it be a game with dots on a jpeg or not the choice is theirs. Some people dont want to pay for it again that is their choice. 

If anyone wants to watch a replay of the race why dont you just get the add ons in firefox or chrome and record the race then you can watch it till your heart is content and there is no strain on the servers what so ever

If the current 2d veiwer is free the things that would make me pay are: 
- An enhanced unattended mode with the ability to  set my push level for each lap. and other things like delay KERS till 60% of the race is complete.
- Have 2 car setups 1 for dry and 1 for wet weather.
- 10 push levels instead of 5. Not better just more variation.
- An  ability to download season data into a spreadsheet or csv format. I know you can get this data but it is long and tedious.
- Race data to inlcude temperature and weather conditions.
- More inrace data. All lap/section times and tyre changes for each car in the race. Its hard to keep track of this stuff at the moment.