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medal 4738
3 years 272 days ago
New pit stop changes today =  fixed nothing, still lose places in pits almost every pit stop, pit stop times identical to others but losses of 1.5 to 3 seconds each stop (in a hard league over the 2 laps of each teams pitstops works out at 2-4 places lost each time for each car, so the huge problems with pits remain, its so annoying that this problem cannot be fixed, you just keep getting pushed further and further back every pitstop into the midfield and get stuck...

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=28582241&tab=race
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medal 5000
3 years 272 days ago

William
New pit stop changes today =  fixed nothing, still lose places in pits almost every pit stop, pit stop times identical to others but losses of 1.5 to 3 seconds each stop (in a hard league over the 2 laps of each teams pitstops works out at 2-4 places lost each time for each car, so the huge problems with pits remain, its so annoying that this problem cannot be fixed, you just keep getting pushed further and further back every pitstop into the midfield and get stuck...

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=28582241&tab=race



In this race, Gerrard Berger lost positions due the overcut of other cars, while your other driver probably got stuck in traffic after leave the pits


this kinda of things happen, mate
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medal 4738
3 years 272 days ago (Last edited by William Robert 3 years 272 days ago)
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William
New pit stop changes today =  fixed nothing, still lose places in pits almost every pit stop, pit stop times identical to others but losses of 1.5 to 3 seconds each stop (in a hard league over the 2 laps of each teams pitstops works out at 2-4 places lost each time for each car, so the huge problems with pits remain, its so annoying that this problem cannot be fixed, you just keep getting pushed further and further back every pitstop into the midfield and get stuck...

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=28582241&tab=race



In this race, Gerrard Berger lost positions due the overcut of other cars, while your other driver probably got stuck in traffic after leave the pits


this kinda of things happen, mate


LOL you obviously didn't watch the race we all came in on same lap with each car but go out several places behind (cant overcut or undercut whilst in pit lane) say for example car numbers 1,3,5,7 all stop at same time on same lap all 0.3 seconds behind each other, put same amount of fuel in with the same fuel econemy and the same stop time but come out 1,5,7,3 (how can overcut or undercut effect that??? thanks for your observations though was a real help.

its no different, nothing is fixed and the pits are still broken.
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medal 5018
3 years 272 days ago

Príncipe

William
New pit stop changes today =  fixed nothing, still lose places in pits almost every pit stop, pit stop times identical to others but losses of 1.5 to 3 seconds each stop (in a hard league over the 2 laps of each teams pitstops works out at 2-4 places lost each time for each car, so the huge problems with pits remain, its so annoying that this problem cannot be fixed, you just keep getting pushed further and further back every pitstop into the midfield and get stuck...

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=28582241&tab=race



In this race, Gerrard Berger lost positions due the overcut of other cars, while your other driver probably got stuck in traffic after leave the pits


this kinda of things happen, mate



It is a bug on some tracks, on some tracks you have to Enter the pit first otherwise you lose a lot of time, spain is one of them, turkey has a even weirder behaviour without any logic. Don't know why that happens, just observed that it happens. The new system will not solve this....

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medal 4789 Community Manager
3 years 272 days ago

Bastian

Príncipe

William
New pit stop changes today =  fixed nothing, still lose places in pits almost every pit stop, pit stop times identical to others but losses of 1.5 to 3 seconds each stop (in a hard league over the 2 laps of each teams pitstops works out at 2-4 places lost each time for each car, so the huge problems with pits remain, its so annoying that this problem cannot be fixed, you just keep getting pushed further and further back every pitstop into the midfield and get stuck...

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=28582241&tab=race



In this race, Gerrard Berger lost positions due the overcut of other cars, while your other driver probably got stuck in traffic after leave the pits


this kinda of things happen, mate



It is a bug on some tracks, on some tracks you have to Enter the pit first otherwise you lose a lot of time, spain is one of them, turkey has a even weirder behaviour without any logic. Don't know why that happens, just observed that it happens. The new system will not solve this....


Hello Bastian,


Can you explain this please? Videos would be useful too. Waiting a reply from you.
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medal 4738
3 years 272 days ago
Bastian

Príncipe

William
New pit stop changes today =  fixed nothing, still lose places in pits almost every pit stop, pit stop times identical to others but losses of 1.5 to 3 seconds each stop (in a hard league over the 2 laps of each teams pitstops works out at 2-4 places lost each time for each car, so the huge problems with pits remain, its so annoying that this problem cannot be fixed, you just keep getting pushed further and further back every pitstop into the midfield and get stuck...

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=28582241&tab=race



In this race, Gerrard Berger lost positions due the overcut of other cars, while your other driver probably got stuck in traffic after leave the pits


this kinda of things happen, mate



It is a bug on some tracks, on some tracks you have to Enter the pit first otherwise you lose a lot of time, spain is one of them, turkey has a even weirder behaviour without any logic. Don't know why that happens, just observed that it happens. The new system will not solve this....



Yes, but today I wasn’t even in the beginning of pit lane, I’m numbers 21,22 so quite far down pits in what is usually at better spot on the none reversed pit stall tracks, normally it’s the first few pit stalls that kill you if you are close to front of race.

Tomorrow we have Turkey where I’ll be in 1 of the first pit stalls due to it being a reverse pit stall track so I’ll take my usual pit raping there compared to the car number 1’s, today should of been better.

But yeah we discussed on discord before the race that we knew the changes today wouldn’t help which was correct but thought I’d just put it on here to confirm no improvement to make sure they know
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medal 5018
3 years 272 days ago (Last edited by Bastian Ba 3 years 272 days ago)
José

Bastian

Príncipe

William
New pit stop changes today =  fixed nothing, still lose places in pits almost every pit stop, pit stop times identical to others but losses of 1.5 to 3 seconds each stop (in a hard league over the 2 laps of each teams pitstops works out at 2-4 places lost each time for each car, so the huge problems with pits remain, its so annoying that this problem cannot be fixed, you just keep getting pushed further and further back every pitstop into the midfield and get stuck...

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=28582241&tab=race



In this race, Gerrard Berger lost positions due the overcut of other cars, while your other driver probably got stuck in traffic after leave the pits


this kinda of things happen, mate



It is a bug on some tracks, on some tracks you have to Enter the pit first otherwise you lose a lot of time, spain is one of them, turkey has a even weirder behaviour without any logic. Don't know why that happens, just observed that it happens. The new system will not solve this....


Hello Bastian,


Can you explain this please? Videos would be useful too. Waiting a reply from you.



Don't have Videos, just observed it that the first car which enters the pit in spain leaves the pit with a gap.

This season race i tried to exploit it, i was 2nd but Used boost to Enter the pit first and left the pit with a 3 second gap, then was able to exploit DRS and the race was over...
In China for example it is better to Enter 2nd i remember a wet race, where just 2 cars entered the pit, at the same time, so there was no pit block. I entered the pit first with a 1.5 sec gap and left the pit 0.5 sec behind my competitor i tried to use boost to overtake him, did not made it, he was heavier than me, so the race was over...
The weirder Behavior i mentioned in turkey, is basically the same Situation above without a logic, sometimes the car enters first gains up to 5 seconds sometimes the car which enters 2nd gains up to 5 seconds, without any reason (no obvious pit blocks), so totally random....
That Situation does not happen on all tracks equally, or at least the effect is smaller on some tracks so that i did not observed it there. 

I observed it and knowing where the car will be after the pit stop, is what i described as i understand how it happens, in the previous post
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medal 4789 Community Manager
3 years 272 days ago

Bastian
José

Bastian

Príncipe

William
New pit stop changes today =  fixed nothing, still lose places in pits almost every pit stop, pit stop times identical to others but losses of 1.5 to 3 seconds each stop (in a hard league over the 2 laps of each teams pitstops works out at 2-4 places lost each time for each car, so the huge problems with pits remain, its so annoying that this problem cannot be fixed, you just keep getting pushed further and further back every pitstop into the midfield and get stuck...

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=28582241&tab=race



In this race, Gerrard Berger lost positions due the overcut of other cars, while your other driver probably got stuck in traffic after leave the pits


this kinda of things happen, mate



It is a bug on some tracks, on some tracks you have to Enter the pit first otherwise you lose a lot of time, spain is one of them, turkey has a even weirder behaviour without any logic. Don't know why that happens, just observed that it happens. The new system will not solve this....


Hello Bastian,


Can you explain this please? Videos would be useful too. Waiting a reply from you.



Don't have Videos, just observed it that the first car which enters the pit in spain leaves the pit with a gap.

This season race i tried to exploit it, i was 2nd but Used boost to Enter the pit first and left the pit with a 3 second gap, then was able to exploit DRS and the race was over...
In China for example it is better to Enter 2nd i remember a wet race, where just 2 cars entered the pit, at the same time, so there was no pit block. I entered the pit first with a 1.5 sec gap and left the pit 0.5 sec behind my competitor i tried to use boost to overtake him, did not made it, he was heavier than me, so the race was over...
The weirder Behavior i mentioned in turkey, is basically the same Situation above without a logic, sometimes the car enters first gains up to 5 seconds sometimes the car which enters 2nd gains up to 5 seconds, without any reason (no obvious pit blocks), so totally random....
That Situation does not happen on all tracks equally, or at least the effect is smaller on some tracks so that i did not observed it there. 

I observed it and knowing where the car will be after the pit stop, is what i described as i understand how it happens, in the previous post


Hello,


For this case we need videos to learn how it happens since we aren’t able to replicate it.
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medal 5018
3 years 272 days ago

José

Bastian
José

Bastian

Príncipe

William
New pit stop changes today =  fixed nothing, still lose places in pits almost every pit stop, pit stop times identical to others but losses of 1.5 to 3 seconds each stop (in a hard league over the 2 laps of each teams pitstops works out at 2-4 places lost each time for each car, so the huge problems with pits remain, its so annoying that this problem cannot be fixed, you just keep getting pushed further and further back every pitstop into the midfield and get stuck...

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=28582241&tab=race



In this race, Gerrard Berger lost positions due the overcut of other cars, while your other driver probably got stuck in traffic after leave the pits


this kinda of things happen, mate



It is a bug on some tracks, on some tracks you have to Enter the pit first otherwise you lose a lot of time, spain is one of them, turkey has a even weirder behaviour without any logic. Don't know why that happens, just observed that it happens. The new system will not solve this....


Hello Bastian,


Can you explain this please? Videos would be useful too. Waiting a reply from you.



Don't have Videos, just observed it that the first car which enters the pit in spain leaves the pit with a gap.

This season race i tried to exploit it, i was 2nd but Used boost to Enter the pit first and left the pit with a 3 second gap, then was able to exploit DRS and the race was over...
In China for example it is better to Enter 2nd i remember a wet race, where just 2 cars entered the pit, at the same time, so there was no pit block. I entered the pit first with a 1.5 sec gap and left the pit 0.5 sec behind my competitor i tried to use boost to overtake him, did not made it, he was heavier than me, so the race was over...
The weirder Behavior i mentioned in turkey, is basically the same Situation above without a logic, sometimes the car enters first gains up to 5 seconds sometimes the car which enters 2nd gains up to 5 seconds, without any reason (no obvious pit blocks), so totally random....
That Situation does not happen on all tracks equally, or at least the effect is smaller on some tracks so that i did not observed it there. 

I observed it and knowing where the car will be after the pit stop, is what i described as i understand how it happens, in the previous post


Hello,


For this case we need videos to learn how it happens since we aren’t able to replicate it.



I thought so, maybe on Peter Man's Youtubr Chanel there might be some Videos showing that, which can be helpful for you. I don't make Videos of the races.

I personally just have a Problem with the turkey gp, on  the other tracks, where i observed it, i can exploit it:)
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medal 5000
3 years 272 days ago
Here's a good example at Turkey. First of all the VSC made me gain some time by going pl5, also it says DRS is in green so you would think that it would be active but it wasn't. Finally the pit stop, I came in front by something like .5 secs and left with a huge gap! It's honestly really silly that this happens and ruins any chance of close racing.

Skip to 19:40 to see it!
https://youtu.be/2rdGO3td3Kw
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medal 5000
3 years 272 days ago
Bastian

I thought so, maybe on Peter Man's Youtubr Chanel there might be some Videos showing that, which can be helpful for you. I don't make Videos of the races.

I personally just have a Problem with the turkey gp, on  the other tracks, where i observed it, i can exploit it:)

Was just gonna post a video highlighting this phenomenon! xd

Race dated from Wednesday 22nd July (5 days ago), 13:00 BST (12:00 UTC)

Starts at 33:56. 2 cars pit in..notice the pit stops are concluded at 33:58 and 33:59 (by the wheel change sounds)

Gap goes from +0.500s (racing speeds) to +2.300s after the stop. (The pit lane exit appearing to be the main difference..)
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medal 5000
3 years 271 days ago
Our league raced in Turkey today. Visually we observed that managers on lighter fuel loads appeared to have a much faster pit stop. I called them touch and go style.  That was confirmed on the race data sheet as we experienced substantial time differences from .6 to 1 whole second faster on 33L fuel loads as compare to 40L fuel loads.  In some cases some of our managers were getting pit times as low as 3.1 seconds. 
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medal 5018
3 years 271 days ago

Peter
Bastian

I thought so, maybe on Peter Man's Youtubr Chanel there might be some Videos showing that, which can be helpful for you. I don't make Videos of the races.

I personally just have a Problem with the turkey gp, on  the other tracks, where i observed it, i can exploit it:)

Was just gonna post a video highlighting this phenomenon! xd

Race dated from Wednesday 22nd July (5 days ago), 13:00 BST (12:00 UTC)

Starts at 33:56. 2 cars pit in..notice the pit stops are concluded at 33:58 and 33:59 (by the wheel change sounds)

Gap goes from +0.500s (racing speeds) to +2.300s after the stop. (The pit lane exit appearing to be the main difference..)



Thats a good example, thank you Peter:)

In canada this effect happens, as well, but in spain and turkey that effect is bigger...
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medal 5160
3 years 238 days ago
Do we have an update on this? Got pit blocked badly again today, costing be a shot at being closer to the title, except I wouldn’t win anyway after missing 9 races :(
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medal 5000
3 years 238 days ago
Prapes are no more lol, FE is the only (usually) factor in pit times
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medal 5000
3 years 236 days ago
The Pitstops are still bugged on certain tracks, which is really annoying as we are a super close and competitive league and these bugs can have big consequences to league positions. I know igp managers is small group of people but its been 60 days now since these thead was created . Can we have an update on if this is being looked at please. 
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medal 5000
3 years 236 days ago
They’re not. They’re too busy working in the update they keep talking about. Once that update is out, then they’ll dedicate developers to working in bugs. I just wish they’d say when this update is coming out. Until then, we just have to deal with it. 
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