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League Rules Poll

Which do you prefer?

63.47% (238)
Host can change rules only for the next season
11.2% (42)
Host can change rules once during a season
25.33% (95)
Host can change rules multiple times during a season
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medal 5549 CEO & CTO
3 years 33 days ago
Mihai
#teamJack

? Thanks, but it's okay, the poll speaks for itself and it's about the game. I'm not attached to any choice here. I was of the opinion that the second option would allow people to add rules to their league quickly at launch. If nobody is bothered about that then we'll implement the first one.


Jiří
What about point system changes?

Easy to add, but they don't fit within the way the game is currently designed. For example, points scored on the HoF, manager profiles etc. would be corrupted by it. I'm open to suggestions for how to address that, but they should be in new/separate suggestion threads. This thread is about how the rules can be changed on a league.
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medal 4839
3 years 33 days ago
Hey Jack,
Hey guys,

I don’t know if I miss something but the „vote“ depends on what hosts are able to do now?

For example changing the racelength: some league (including me) did special races in the past where we changed the length for that race during season.

So if there will some rules which could be used to create some special races/events during the season it should be changeable during the season 
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medal 5001
3 years 33 days ago (Last edited by Dick Dastardly 3 years 33 days ago)
Jack
Mihai
#teamJack

? Thanks, but it's okay, the poll speaks for itself and it's about the game. I'm not attached to any choice here. I was of the opinion that the second option would allow people to add rules to their league quickly at launch. If nobody is bothered about that then we'll implement the first one.


Jiří
What about point system changes?

Easy to add, but they don't fit within the way the game is currently designed. For example, points scored on the HoF, manager profiles etc. would be corrupted by it. I'm open to suggestions for how to address that, but they should be in new/separate suggestion threads. This thread is about how the rules can be changed on a league.


What’s wrong with the pts system?  “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” seems to apply here.


@JNS NTFR - seems absolutely fair that hosts should not be able to change rules during the season.  Might seem harsh on one or two leagues with esoteric ways of playing (can think of a couple of leagues), but ensuring that there is fairness across the majority of leagues has to take priority 
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medal 5000
3 years 33 days ago
As the wise old saying goes;

'If it isn't broken, do not fix it'

The rule change frequency, in my opinion, is perfectly fine as it is, with very few players indicating a change in the first place.

JNS NTFR makes a good point, in regards to 'special' distance races, which some leagues have 1-4 races each season, to break the monotony of always racing at the same distance, or to make certain races days longer when players have more time ie. on a Sunday.

Sticking strictly to Option 1 would disable this individuality for these league hosts, to create more unique championships.

Leave the rules alone, they know what they are doing ?
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medal 5000
3 years 33 days ago
I personally like the idea of it being for a season at a time, but what about having a week or two to allow everyone to experience the rules before being set in stone for the season? Then the leagues can put up their own poll as to which rules will be active in their league. Then after the "learning curve" it is set to what it is set to. Sorry if this was already suggested.
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medal 5000
3 years 32 days ago
La opción numero 1 es la mejor.

Garantizará la estabilidad de cualquier liga.

Saludos
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medal 5224
3 years 32 days ago
I think the League manager should be able to change the rules at will. This while can be abused. I think elements of like how F1 is testing the Sprint Race rule into it's 2021 Calendar can also be played with here. So that the Leagues can opt in a No-Refuel Race in Spain, and then in the next race have refuelling in Bahrain for example.

I think it should be kept open and a grace period of Teams being able to leave a league within 48hours of a rule change without penalties would be advantageous. If they do not like the change, they can leave with no issue.

Especially right now, some leagues that do not run daily, may have to wait up to 6months before a new rule can be added. Our league is about to wrap it's season just before these rules come into play, so perfect timing. But the further rules between December and January, we will not be able to see implemented until May/June.

Leave the rule change implementation periods entirely at the League owner's discretion. Longer leagues receive more Harm from prolonged rules that are unfavourable.
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medal 5004
3 years 31 days ago
Just one question here, If the first option wins and you decide to apply it in the leagues, it will affect to the race duration?. In our league we have one day at 75% and the other 4 days at 50%. If you close the possibility to change every option in the league I think it will be great to select the race duration per day (in order to avoid this kind of problems)
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medal 5542 Community Manager
3 years 31 days ago
Alvaro
Just one question here, If the first option wins and you decide to apply it in the leagues, it will affect to the race duration?. In our league we have one day at 75% and the other 4 days at 50%. If you close the possibility to change every option in the league I think it will be great to select the race duration per day (in order to avoid this kind of problems)


Hello Alvaro,

It’ll only affect (as described in the post) new league rules as no refuelling, 2-tyre compound, fastest lap bonus point, etc).
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medal 5004
3 years 31 days ago

José
Alvaro
Just one question here, If the first option wins and you decide to apply it in the leagues, it will affect to the race duration?. In our league we have one day at 75% and the other 4 days at 50%. If you close the possibility to change every option in the league I think it will be great to select the race duration per day (in order to avoid this kind of problems)


Hello Alvaro,

It’ll only affect (as described in the post) new league rules as no refuelling, 2-tyre compound, fastest lap bonus point, etc).



Thanks a lot Jose !
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medal 4856
3 years 30 days ago
I voted for option A

I think making changes from one season to the next would be much better.

It would prevent the host from changing one race to another to give a manager an advantage In certain situations.

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medal 4839
3 years 30 days ago (Last edited by JNS Uchiha 3 years 30 days ago)
Allan
I voted for option A

I think making changes from one season to the next would be much better.

It would prevent the host from changing one race to another to give a manager an advantage In certain situations.




Absolutely right if you say the most host have bad behavior …..


Completely stupid for hosts who are doing a great job and create a individual league with some special events.

Therefore it’s absolutely necessary to know in which way the rules can be change and what will they change.

Some examples:
- refueling: if you want to race with refueling the season but maybe do 1-2-3 special races without refueling, than it would be nice to change that setting each race.
- tyre rule: we still don’t know how it will be, but let’s say for 1 race you want to use 3 compounds or only 1 compound….. again it would be great to change for each race…..

After a while and thinking about that poll I would say BIG MISSTAKE of iGP crew. First you should have make it clear what and how the rules are, after that a poll would be useful. But atm it makes absolutely no sense (In my opinion)

@Jose: what’s wrong here? In my post, you deleted, i was grumpy against someone …. But here I don’t know why it’s marked.
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medal 5000
3 years 28 days ago

José
Hello managers,

Personally I think the fairer option is the first one. These rules should be fixed from the beginning of the season until the end of the season, with no option for the host to change the league rules once the season has started. This inconsistency could be used as an advantage or to discourage managers who have already planned the car design and long terms plan. Imagine managers going hard with Fuel Economy investigation because the rule No refuel is on and then the league host turn Refuel on in the middle of the season, wouldn't it be unfair?



Agreed. I had voted for the same yesterday. Actually readying through the thread today. Looking forward to it. 


Hopefully the 2 tire rule can be applied only to Elite. Will read on this thread maybe already discussed. 
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medal 5000
3 years 28 days ago

Hayden

José
Hello managers,

Personally I think the fairer option is the first one. These rules should be fixed from the beginning of the season until the end of the season, with no option for the host to change the league rules once the season has started. This inconsistency could be used as an advantage or to discourage managers who have already planned the car design and long terms plan. Imagine managers going hard with Fuel Economy investigation because the rule No refuel is on and then the league host turn Refuel on in the middle of the season, wouldn't it be unfair?



Hopefully the 2 tire rule can be applied only to Elite. Will read on this thread maybe already discussed. 


This is actually very important. There needs to be an option for certain rules on certain tiers. If it's not in the to do list already consider adding it 

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medal 5000
2 years 354 days ago

Jack
José
Hello managers,

Personally I think the fairer option is the first one. These rules should be fixed from the beginning of the season until the end of the season, with no option for the host to change the league rules once the season has started. This inconsistency could be used as an advantage or to discourage managers who have already planned the car design and long terms plan. Imagine managers going hard with Fuel Economy investigation because the rule No refuel is on and then the league host turn Refuel on in the middle of the season, wouldn't it be unfair?

And what if everyone in the league hates the settings of the current season? They have to stick with them for 3 weeks or however long the season is. They can just change them to something they prefer for the next race with the second option.

The same applies on the day that league rules launches. Using the first option nobody can change their league rules and will have to wait perhaps weeks until the season ends. If they can change it during a season, everyone can update their league rules on the day it launches and be using new rules the next race.

For anyone reading: This is why we're putting this to a poll, there is not a consensus within the team. ?



I agree with Jack Basford!

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medal 5000
2 years 354 days ago

Jack
Mihai
#teamJack

? Thanks, but it's okay, the poll speaks for itself and it's about the game. I'm not attached to any choice here. I was of the opinion that the second option would allow people to add rules to their league quickly at launch. If nobody is bothered about that then we'll implement the first one.


Jiří
What about point system changes?

Easy to add, but they don't fit within the way the game is currently designed. For example, points scored on the HoF, manager profiles etc. would be corrupted by it. I'm open to suggestions for how to address that, but they should be in new/separate suggestion threads. This thread is about how the rules can be changed on a league.



Jack Basford do not worry! We will overturn the result! Just believe. 
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