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Hard Tyres is the best cold weather?! (Temperature 9-10 C and 1 box, fuel halftime) Joke!!

What do you think about this problem?

19.15% (18)
not important
31.91% (30)
important
17.02% (16)
huge problem
31.91% (30)
unreal races
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medal 5000
6 years 160 days ago
Also.Since it was low temp,he (hard *abuser*) has to resort into lvl 5 push level.Trust me,I have once encountered this situation where you have to use push lvl 5 for 25% of your stint and I have to tell ya.It is HORRENDOUS,engine wear down so quickly,engine management is also important.If you have a crap engine and no more engines left,you are considered dead,DED
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medal 5000
6 years 160 days ago
What track was it? Hard tyres push level 5 @ 10 degrees only happens on tracks they shouldn't be used on in the first place, High and very high wear tracks at 10 degrees push level 4 is the highest push level :P
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medal 5000
6 years 159 days ago
Yeah that was Hungary
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medal 5000
6 years 159 days ago (edited 6 years 159 days ago)
I'm from International GP Championship, The F1 World Championship, and IGP Champions (which has mandatory 2 compound rule).

In the winter, in 50% distance leagues, one of the easiest counters to 1 stop H/H on cold enough tracks is to start on a softer tyre for higher track position and better initial pace. In a competitive, crowded league, like International GP and MJL as Kevin mentioned, there can be enough people starting on tyres softer than Hards to give Hards starters a great grid slot disadvantage. In International GP Championship, the last time someone won with H/H was me in Bahrain and Spain last season; it was not the winning strat in the other 15 races. League competitiveness is as much a determiner for strats used as is track conditions and track characteristics.

So for 1 stop, S/H or even SS/H on some tracks can work. In IGP Champions people like to go M/H as well (mostly due to 2 compound rule and being a 1 car league, you have to find DRS trains to stay in as you cannot rely on teamwork or team DRS). 2 stops also work on a good number of tracks, especially the European tracks and Australia, with 3 stops all SS being especially strong in Valencia. There are multiple competitive strategies in a number of tracks, especially during colder weather.

Still, as I've mentioned on a few threads about tyres before, the tyre warming for Hards needs to be balanced even if it's not the best tyre on all tracks or conditions. It simply goes against racer's intuition that such a hard compound of tyre would work in cold conditions; if they're too cold, they should be in the blue and suffering from graining which would make it more "realistic", instead high push levels still make them run in optimal temps (where tyres perform best). This is why I believe this issue is important as too hard tyres in too cold conditions should realistically be graining and not performing in an optimum window.

Hards are also by far the easiest tyres to use because they barely wear (tyre life above 50% is when tyres perform best), and they are hard to overheat and easy to maintain in optimum temps (optimum temps is when tyres perform best), and you can push really hard on them. You can also control pace the most dynamically on Hards. I personally don't like using all Hards strats, or even strats with lots of Hards in it, but have to use Hards on most tracks because they are the most competitve race tyre most of the time, even in colder weather.
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medal 5000
6 years 159 days ago
If they slowed the Hard Tyres down a bit it would be helpful.

Every track they are almost same times as Medium Tyres



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medal 5000
6 years 159 days ago
Balancing pace as I said before would be more difficult than just doing something with the tyre warming at first glance, but yes, you can push harder on Hards and Hards have much better tyre economy as well.
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medal 5000
6 years 144 days ago
I wanted to add my opinion. In real F1 hard tyres are not the worst tyres in cold weather: for example in wet/dry transitions harder tyres are faster because they have a lower optimal working temperature. Still, they heat slower than soft and usually in cold weather softs could be better since you can push more without overheating while hard reach their optimal temperature faster.
I think that hard must be rebalanced but it must be taken into consideration the lower working temperature. IMHO
PS: sorry for my english
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medal 5000
6 years 143 days ago
Only 30% think that this issue is not important, which suggests that a large majority feels that something needs to be done about it.
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medal 5002 Super Mod
6 years 143 days ago
5% think it's a huge problem, 28% think it's important so only 33% think it's a problem.
38% say it leads to unreal races (but that isn't necessarily a problem because the game doesn't simulate F1) and 28% say it's unimportant so 66% don't say it's a problem.
Lies, damn lies and statistics LOL.
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medal 5000
6 years 143 days ago
I voted 'unreal races' thinking it meant that the hard tyres are causing the races not to be real. :)

I do however think that it is something that should be looked at and tried to be improved upon.
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medal 4902
6 years 139 days ago
Kevin
5% think it's a huge problem, 28% think it's important so only 33% think it's a problem.
38% say it leads to unreal races (but that isn't necessarily a problem because the game doesn't simulate F1) and 28% say it's unimportant so 66% don't say it's a problem.
Lies, damn lies and statistics LOL.


At the moment 42 % think its a problem (importand and huge problem).... To many players say to "unreal races" , but In my opinion the unreal races dont explain that they think dont problem. So Your theory: 42% important 23 % not important 33% doesnt matter. My theory: who say unreal races They think that this is a problem, because the game doesnt exciting and doesnt have brilliant tactics in this game.
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medal 5000
6 years 139 days ago
Here is another theory. The options for the poll are poorly worded and it should be redone with a clear gamut of answer options. Then we can all stop coming up with theories about what the vague option means
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medal 5000
6 years 139 days ago
My theory is that Bacon sandwiches with brown sauce tastes much better than with Ketchup
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medal 5000
6 years 139 days ago
my theory is that earth is more oval than I thought
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