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medal 5000
6 years 339 days ago (edited 6 years 338 days ago)
You can see the image for better explanation

http://www.mediafire.com/view/826539sez77wtwq/%CE%A7%CF%89%CF%81%CE%AF%CF%82%20%CF%84%CE%AF%CF%84%CE%BB%CE%BF(2).png

This guy just tweaks the car setup, he keeps the pit strategy - wont even change the push levels

He will pit in the end of Lap 60 so lap 59 had at least 1.2 laps before running out of fuel
I pitted 10 laps ago on SS and have 4 laps of fuel remaining. How can he lap the same time like me? Happens very often

My car has better Acceleration Braking Handling Downforce

My drivers:
-----------P.Pa --M.Sm
Talent: 9 ------11
Fast Cor 11 ------11
Slow Cor 11 ------11
Attacking 12 ------12
Defend 11 ------11
Comp 11 ------11
Exp 10 ------3
Focus 11 ------11
Moral 11 ------11
Knowledge 11 ------11
Weight: 59 ------68
Stamina: 9-------14

His Drivers:
L.Jo B.Ko
18 ------13
9 ------ 18
9 ------ 18
8 ------ 19
9 ------18
13 ------ 5
5 ------15
13 ------ 6
13 ------14
13 ------ 9
79 ------ 62
13-------7
Both managers: Lvl 10
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medal 5000
6 years 339 days ago


Is the a one time situation or often? I have similar questions based medium tire performance.
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medal 5000
6 years 339 days ago
Yes it happens almost all the time. He can also overtake me sometimes and he doesnt even play!
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medal 5000
6 years 339 days ago
Funny thing is that when I put the medium tyres and I keep the optimum temperature (which happens when I actually tweak the push level, the one thing he doesnt), I dont get even near these lap times
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medal 5000
6 years 339 days ago
Nobody knows if the tyres are cooking or not, in the old game we could see the tyre temps of other teams. might be an issue of offline teams tyres are not burning up like online peoples.

Anyways here is a rough idea of lap times for tyres in Turkey.
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=resultDetail&id=8025516
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=resultDetail&id=8025517
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medal 5000
6 years 339 days ago
It looks a bit too close for mediums at Monaco but here are a few things I noticed. Your better car is still almost 0.6 secs faster, that's a lot, with less than 0.2s his faster car is just sort of close to your slower car.

4 laps less fuel (the race write-out says you pitted after lap 64) makes quite some difference.

Your tyres were in their 9th lap there, depending on your TE your tyres should have been past the first drop off point at least part of that lap. I don't know if you upped your push level already to compensate. But you're sure he's not on highest push for the whole race, you wrote he does do setup after all? If not his mediums should be running way too cool in Monaco.

Compare your drivers performance and skills, especially talent and stamina, and then his drivers. There should be a noticeable pattern.
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medal 5000
6 years 339 days ago
The tyres are not cooking (Mediums) Due to the fact that I was one click left from the normal push level (low) and I could maintain the temp on the SS. Softs were going colder and colder on Normal push level and had to put it on high. So the mediums were actually COLD.

Also my tyres were (as you can see) just below 50%. But my opponent with medium tyres that are COLD and already used, it is wierd that he is just 0.6 secs slower than me on SS. And yes he does not interfere with the setup at all
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medal 5000
6 years 339 days ago
And I've posted the drivers' status on the first post
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medal 5000
6 years 339 days ago
Oh blast, I actually completely forgot about the ring for tyre wear. So with ice blocks, no higher push and wrong setup he's surprisingly quick, yes, but not mind boggling so.

You didn't include Stamina, but what I tried to point out with 'compare the drivers' was the importance of Talent and Stamina, which are the 2 single most important skills when it comes to driver speed, with talent at least from the point on where you are at moment with driver level about overtaking the talent value. Even more so because the one stat that should slow his driver somewhat, the rather high weight, seems to have no effect whatsoever in the game.

Stamina is a sneaky bugger because with higher stamina driver often seem to get slower in qualify but certainly not faster. So low stamina driver look really quick in training and especially qualify but suddenly in race the car is without chance. Something not so noticeable in your case because the other team is so completely uncompetetive with probably being inactive.
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medal 5000
6 years 338 days ago
There is no cold tyre in monaco https://igpmanager.com/app/d=resultDetail&id=7895169

Very High S M & H
High SS
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medal 5000
6 years 338 days ago
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=1281444&tab=race

Wait how there is no cold tyre in monaco? The other guy doesnt tweak the push level
Sorry, but yeah I forgot the stamina. Driver status is updated
You can also see the times and the drivers from the link I give you. Take note that when I had softs, he was catching me
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medal 5000
6 years 338 days ago
He is not online to tweak push levels but can we be sure he was on pl 3 natural and not push pl 5 very high?
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medal 5000
6 years 338 days ago

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medal 5000
6 years 338 days ago
Default push level in advanced options you can set the car to run in one of the 5 push levels you pick the one best suited to the tyres and weather
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medal 5000
6 years 338 days ago
Like I said, he only tweaks the car setup not the strategy.
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medal 5000
6 years 338 days ago
Even if he did change the push level, I've raced with him many times. It is not possible for him to pick the right push level EVERY time we race without even going online during the race.
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medal 5000
6 years 338 days ago
Hard tyres are just above cold in the optimal range
Medium tyres are slap bang in the middle of optimal range
Soft tyres if long enough stint creep into the red
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medal 5000
6 years 338 days ago
And again. I had to put the push level on high during the race for the softs to be on optimal performance (not to warm not to cold). Medium push level on softs and they were going cold
He had to put the push level on very high if he wanted to have middle temps.
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medal 5000
6 years 338 days ago
it's not possible to have the right push level always but it will be right for a period of time. Even I have been offline using all 4 compounds and some how manged to slip into the points with Neutral used on all 4 tyres
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medal 5000
6 years 338 days ago
So is it natural for the mediums to be 0.6 seconds slower than the Super Softs?
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