Renta Driver medal 5000 5 years 238 days ago
Tell me what's going on with the game? In one night all game advantage is lost. Yesterday you were a leader,and the next stage you're an outsider. And it happens from season to season,at the same stage of the championship. Just don't tell me that the opponents are also improving their car and stuff. I will never believe that a player 2-3 levels below mine can become a super champion in 1 night. Or in the game, the rule - who is the leader of the competition,it is necessary to slow down the pace? I demand an explanation! Like the 16 player level with pilot level 17(20 talent) can be a much faster player 18 level pilot level 20 (20талант)? A priori, this is impossible!
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Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod 5 years 237 days ago
First of I’d like to dispel a popular misconception, Mods are not employed by iGP, we are just players of the game the same as everyone else. We have no insider knowledge of how the game is coded so any information we share is from experience or observation.
The reason none of the Mods have attempted to explain why some managers appear to struggle against managers many levels lower is because we don’t know. There are so many variables to consider, design balance, suppliers, research, driver attributes, staff attributes, fuel load, tyre compound, race setup, strategy, temperature, specific circuit characteristics etc. Then during the race some managers are much better than others at optimising push level and boost.
How can anyone hope to explain why a manager is uncompetitive without knowing all of these settings and monitoring how the boost and push levels are managed during the race?
One thing is for certain, there are a few extremely good managers in this game who are always competitive. Even at a relatively low manager level they can enter a league and be dominant because they’ve worked out the optimum settings and where best to focus their effort and development. If you get one of these managers join your league you are going to have a hard time and they are unlikely to tell you the secret as to why they’re so fast because…… well, why would they?
As for the developers not responding, it’s not really surprising. If they wrote a manual explaining every little detail of the game mechanics all managers would do exactly the same thing and the race results would be predictable. Championship winners would either be the highest level team or the manager prepared to throw the most real money at the game to accelerate the development of their team.
Rui Cabral medal 5000 5 years 238 days ago
I know that feeling mate...
I have top drivers, top staff, top car put a tremendous fight against my rivals and suddenly the car drops performance drastically and I barelly can get to points. Some races I use the exact same tactic as the cars in front and simply lose 1 second per lap.
I don't know what happens and I really can't understand. If this keeps happening I will just delete my account and search for a new game to have fun...
Marissa Metiva medal 5000 5 years 238 days ago
Feel like some cars have stats better aligned for some traks than others. I stink at Japan every season, but the races to either side of it I do alright
Hamlet Rodriguez medal 5000 5 years 238 days ago
Marissa
Feel like some cars have stats better aligned for some traks than others. I stink at Japan every season, but the races to either side of it I do alright
Your're on the right track here.
Once your big 4 are maxed, try different engines that better fit the track's own characteristics. If you think the same engine setup should get you top points in all tracks.....well.....you tell me.... mix it up....adapt... it's impossible to say what setups your competition has for sure... drivers attributes/age/height, car's attributes from research, DP performance from your CD(1-? CDs) and the list goes on....
so...yes.....A manager can adapt from one race to the next and show completely different results from one race to another. The question now becomes.....what are you doing to stay on top?
Ben Cabral medal 5000 5 years 238 days ago (Last edited by
Ben Cabral 5 years 238 days ago)
Been there before, know how it feels. I tried to make my case here and no-one could give me a plausible justification to why this was happening.
With me it happened After three consecutive Elite championships. Everything fell apart with no reason.
Decided to sell my experienced drivers (big mistake) and started from scratch and decided to take a different approach towards the game, in a way I lost a bit of interest and invest less time and effort with the game.
My answer is: there's a handicap system or as I call it "a bug ?"
Thanks
BC
Karl A medal 5000 5 years 238 days ago
This is more than a big for many seasons this has happened, we have a level 15 manager pilot is 15 and still building attributes he is out pacing level 18,19 managers with pilots in max 20 ?? So go figure I have always did this racing set up bears nothing to what your stats or manager level are as the difference is too great , how can a lower level manager with lower level drivers and lower
Level attributes get pole and win i too have asked many times and not one mod has answered
Renta Driver medal 5000 5 years 237 days ago
Developed don't seem to answer questions relating to his own game!
Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod 5 years 237 days ago
First of I’d like to dispel a popular misconception, Mods are not employed by iGP, we are just players of the game the same as everyone else. We have no insider knowledge of how the game is coded so any information we share is from experience or observation.
The reason none of the Mods have attempted to explain why some managers appear to struggle against managers many levels lower is because we don’t know. There are so many variables to consider, design balance, suppliers, research, driver attributes, staff attributes, fuel load, tyre compound, race setup, strategy, temperature, specific circuit characteristics etc. Then during the race some managers are much better than others at optimising push level and boost.
How can anyone hope to explain why a manager is uncompetitive without knowing all of these settings and monitoring how the boost and push levels are managed during the race?
One thing is for certain, there are a few extremely good managers in this game who are always competitive. Even at a relatively low manager level they can enter a league and be dominant because they’ve worked out the optimum settings and where best to focus their effort and development. If you get one of these managers join your league you are going to have a hard time and they are unlikely to tell you the secret as to why they’re so fast because…… well, why would they?
As for the developers not responding, it’s not really surprising. If they wrote a manual explaining every little detail of the game mechanics all managers would do exactly the same thing and the race results would be predictable. Championship winners would either be the highest level team or the manager prepared to throw the most real money at the game to accelerate the development of their team.
Test Driver medal 5000 5 years 237 days ago
Kevin
First of I’d like to dispel a popular misconception, Mods are not employed by iGP, we are just players of the game the same as everyone else. We have no insider knowledge of how the game is coded so any information we share is from experience or observation.
The reason none of the Mods have attempted to explain why some managers appear to struggle against managers many levels lower is because we don’t know. There are so many variables to consider, design balance, suppliers, research, driver attributes, staff attributes, fuel load, tyre compound, race setup, strategy, temperature, specific circuit characteristics etc. Then during the race some managers are much better than others at optimising push level and boost.
How can anyone hope to explain why a manager is uncompetitive without knowing all of these settings and monitoring how the boost and push levels are managed during the race?
One thing is for certain, there are a few extremely good managers in this game who are always competitive. Even at a relatively low manager level they can enter a league and be dominant because they’ve worked out the optimum settings and where best to focus their effort and development. If you get one of these managers join your league you are going to have a hard time and they are unlikely to tell you the secret as to why they’re so fast because…… well, why would they?
As for the developers not responding, it’s not really surprising. If they wrote a manual explaining every little detail of the game mechanics all managers would do exactly the same thing and the race results would be predictable. Championship winners would either be the highest level team or the manager prepared to throw the most real money at the game to accelerate the development of their teamю
Please. all on the same track, in the same weather conditions! these cars are practically equal(all key features at 100 ). Max, what you can ruin is an overheated tire! competitor 2 levels below my. pilots, respectively, too. it turns out that his pilots have not reached the maximum development (that is, not all the characteristics of 20) and it flies like crazy!!! how to explain? only as a random who just simply respects the balance that was intriguing. that is, a strong player deliberately makes a slow lag to be interesting.
Karl A medal 5000 5 years 237 days ago
Thanks and full understand they you guys are players of the game too but you theory in all the variables and to be blunt rubbish... and that’s disrespecting you in any way but regardless of all the variables you have mentioned the facts are they a level 14 or 15 manager who has not developed the headquarters to the level of say an 18,19 or even 20 manager and the same for the pilot who is maxed on all attributes over a level 14,15 pilot can no way be faster I don’t care where you use the boost or any secret plan
Simple maths state if you are a level 18 manager and have your headquarters at that same level and you have a pilot maxed to 20 attributes in all areas and is at 51kg you then have a level 14,15 manager with the same level driver but attributes are below 15, 11& still at 59kg be quicker and finish in points and take pole on the same track same weather same time there is no way that driver can be anywhere near the level 18 manager regardless of all the variables as the main set up are 3 times higher and to further the argument when you do the set up in qualifying why does that driver return have the fastest lap as the qualifying does a flat run based on driver cd td and manger settings so how can you state all the bs variables when you as a player should also know that this ?
Or let’s put it a different way if you were to join a league where every driver is maxed and every manager is maxed in all areas but you have a level 15 manager with level 15 drivers and level 15 headquarters yet this driver takes poles ..: really and I have seen this too and have asked just how this can be, I am not asking for no “secret set up” etc purely stating the game does not reflect the manager and driver attributes based on levels within the game as to why low level managers who have lower level drivers are quicker and finishing in the points Over managers and drivers 3 to 4 times higher that’s all
Test Driver medal 5000 5 years 237 days ago
Karl
Thanks and full understand they you guys are players of the game too but you theory in all the variables and to be blunt rubbish... and that"s disrespecting you in any way but regardless of all the variables you have mentioned the facts are they a level 14 or 15 manager who has not developed the headquarters to the level of say an 18,19 or even 20 manager and the same for the pilot who is maxed on all attributes over a level 14,15 pilot can no way be faster I don"t care where you use the boost or any secret plan
Simple maths state if you are a level 18 manager and have your headquarters at that same level and you have a pilot maxed to 20 attributes in all areas and is at 51kg you then have a level 14,15 manager with the same level driver but attributes are below 15, 11& still at 59kg be quicker and finish in points and take pole on the same track same weather same time there is no way that driver can be anywhere near the level 18 manager regardless of all the variables as the main set up are 3 times higher and to further the argument when you do the set up in qualifying why does that driver return have the fastest lap as the qualifying does a flat run based on driver cd td and manger settings so how can you state all the bs variables when you as a player should also know that this ?
Or let"s put it a different way if you were to join a league where every driver is maxed and every manager is maxed in all areas but you have a level 15 manager with level 15 drivers and level 15 headquarters yet this driver takes poles ..: really and I have seen this too and have asked just how this can be, I am not asking for no "secret set up" etc purely stating the game does not reflect the manager and driver attributes based on levels within the game as to why low level managers who have lower level drivers are quicker and finishing in the points Over managers and drivers 3 to 4 times higher that"s all
The game is far from ideal! And it can not be called a simulator!. The game is just made without any sense!
Karl A medal 5000 5 years 237 days ago
Lol it’s is this sense and logic that I am trying to understand as a sim surely the main levels of managers and pilots should reflect in the results in the course or why else would players spend seasons upon seasons building the headquarters, training their pilots to get to max level 20 to be competitive if actually don’t bother with all that and keep a low level manager and pilot in elite and piss all over the high levels within the group your playing writhing
No logic and no sense !!
Bastian Ba medal 5471 5 years 237 days ago
I am a Player about whom was complaint a lot because i am too strong:) i never experienced a drop in pace how you explained it and i am on Top Level 10 seasons in a row with 2 accounts, so i guess you are doing something wrong, or you are doing before the drop something Better than your Opponent.
I just can agree with Kevin, there are so many variables to consider and you would need insights in the variables the competitors and you are doing to answer that question, so it is hard from the outside. the game is not just about drivers and headquaters, it is about so much more, like Kevin mentioned.
additional there is a component of randomness in the quali, when your driver has a bad lap and you start from behind a good position is really hard to achieve, i have that, too, but understand that it is random.
In my special case when my competitors complaint about me i saw exactly what they did wrong and i explained it to them. Maybe you should do the same.
Test Driver medal 5000 5 years 237 days ago
Give a real qualifying session, not random positions in the qualification???
Bastian Ba medal 5471 5 years 237 days ago
it is not totally random. it is based on your car and driver, but just one lap. when you do your practice with the same setup, tire and health you can observe that there can be a difference of 0,5 seconds, the same happens for the quali, thats what the random factor is. half a second can be 20 positions.
And that is realistic, because a driver will never have always a perfect lap.
Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod 5 years 237 days ago
@Karl
Are you talking about a different account to the one you're posting from?
You are a L18 Manager and currently lying 8th in your league. The seven managers above you are 2 x L19, 2 x L18 and 3 x L17. Where are these L14 and L15 managers who are giving you such a hard time?
Like Bastian says, there's a lot more to this game than Manager level and Talent 20 drivers with maxed out attributes.
Dan Tyler medal 5000 5 years 237 days ago
The game is random, there are hidden talents on the drivers that gave carried over from older versions if the game as the coders dnt know how to code them out they are just hidden now.
I too have seen this many times, but i was behind when it happened, finishing 5th for 7 races then winning a race by over a minute when i did nothing different, onky reason, it was my drivers fave track and therefore he goes faster there.
During a season you will do better af a particulat track, thats the reason
Karl A medal 5000 5 years 237 days ago
Kevin
@Karl
Are you talking about a different account to the one you're posting from?
You are a L18 Manager and currently lying 8th in your league. The seven managers above you are 2 x L19, 2 x L18 and 3 x L17. Where are these L14 and L15 managers who are giving you such a hard time?
Like Bastian says, there's a lot more to this game than Manager level and Talent 20 drivers with maxed out attributes.
Hi Kevin this was previously not current league buddy I’m just trying to Understand if there are any hidden assets that we are not told about or don’t know possibly within the AI set up, I don’t want to upset or undermine anyone as I am no expert.. hence why I ask this question.
I understand enough about the game to know that all variables will ultimately contribute to where you finish in any given race in any given track, I also understand that on some tracks your driver will be a lot better than on other tracks, my question simply was around the base level of the manager and the pilot against another base level of another manager and pilot in the same league same tier but both managers and drivers levels at almost 3 sometimes 4 lower, so I used myself as an example to provide the difference I am asking about.
So as a level 18 manager with 2 drivers both talent 20 first driver is on 20 for driving 18 for mental and 51 for weight, 2nd driver is maxed to 20 on all three.
So now if there is a level 14 or 15 even 16 manager who’s drivers are not maxed for driving ability but at 19 talent and mental are all around 10s and 11s and the weight is 59 they do not have the headquarters of a level 18 manager so how can they be considerably quicker in qualifying and in the main race as well as the practice race ..:: just baffles me yes there are variables but if these 2 managers and 4 drivers are so far apart how can it be possible for the lower manager and drivers to be quicker - this is with full health and new engines and parts ?? That is what I am trying to understand
Thanks for the reply and maybe just maybe there is something there or there is nothing ?
Nick Maris medal 5000 5 years 237 days ago
Hey guys, if it was only about numbers and stats we woulnt race at all, we would be like: My driver is talent 15 i'm level 17, your driver is level 11 and your level is level 12 so I win... its not like that people, there are too many factors except just numbers
Karl A medal 5000 5 years 237 days ago
@nick hey agreed buddy totally, but then what is the point of having the numbers?? and increasing the relative format of your managers level, your drivers level and your headquarters, we do this to be more competitive within our respected leagues, again my question is the “why” if you are 3-4 levels higher say level 18,19 etc yet a level 15 manager who can only have a level 15 driver as per the set up of the games format out strips the higher level managers driver!!
Manager who by default will have a level relating to the managers level right, so when we all move up, we then also move to the next level of drivers - why then as another example can you only see drivers and staff relative to your current level ?
When I started I read all the guides beginner advanced they all refer to training your drivers, being in a league where there are higher level managers to allow you to then move up more swiftly, we then do the training in order, then build head quarters as we go through these levels- to finally find a talent 20 driver and to then train said driver over several seasons to then get out paced by lower level drivers and managers that is my point everyone is stating all the “variables” yes they are there but like for like the game must have hidden algorithms in place
Yes there are factors but the fundamental base level of your manager / driver after all the training and levelling up means nothing if a lower level manager and driver of said manager is able to be blitz the field
Surely, I cannot be the only one seeing this or experienced this, others have said the same and reading the replies they were all the same if not similar - there are variables.... so still no closer to the answer... but thanks for the reply let’s see what comes next ... more factors ? More variables ?
Not buying that sorry ?
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