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medal 5000
4 years 135 days ago (Last edited by Luke Frost 4 years 135 days ago)
At the moment, anyone who is L20 has 10,000 reputation and therefore tied for #1 as "the best" 

What if there was a different indicator of skill based on results vs avg level/speed (compared to other leagues), parts strategy, finances (etc) that highlights real skill over experience? I would like to see ranking based on that. I could choose an inactive public league and win every elite race, but my league has tough competition and i need at least 3 seasons to win a race here! Others might find success much easier.....
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medal 5002 Super Mod
4 years 135 days ago

Luke
At the moment, anyone who is L20 has 10,000 reputation and therefore tied for #1 as "the best" 


Not quite right. I have two L20 accounts, this one which has been inactive for a while and another which is active. This inactive account will remain at 10k rep forever. What tends to happen is people get their accounts to 10k rep then retire the team so that they remain there for bragging rights. Personally I think inactive teams should be filtered out of the HOF or have their rep decay over time but that's a different discussion.

My active account was 10k up until a couple of days ago then I was unable to manage my races and lost 75 rep over the course of two races. This will probably take me the rest of the season to recover.
Many months ago Jack acknowledged the need for a review of the HOF but I imagine developing all of the new circuits took priority. Now that the circuits are here let's hope that the Rep calculation is back on his radar.
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medal 5000
4 years 131 days ago
I don't see the point of the Hall of Fame. Its just an ego trip, a bit like using your boost on the last lap, going for fastest lap. 
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medal 5000
4 years 131 days ago
Rep for inactive accounts should be reduced over time.

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medal 5002 Super Mod
4 years 131 days ago
I agree Andrew. This account is inactive because I don't have time to manage more than one team and it just happens to be the one linked to my Moderator account. I would be happy for the rep to reduce because of inactivity, it would make the HoF much more indicative of current team performance.

Ranking for equal points also needs to be changed. Currently the tie break is "newest team" is ranked higher. There are various better alternatives I can think of.
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medal 5000
4 years 131 days ago
Does reputation serve any game purpose at all?
Why not just remove it?
Ego-tripping powergamers are the bane of gaming, why encourage them here? 
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medal 5002 Super Mod
4 years 131 days ago
With an internatonal player base spanning every time zone not everyone can directly compete with the managers who are perceived to be the best. So there are many gamers who genuinely want to understand how they stack up against other top managers who they are unable to race against.

Unfortunately there will always be the "Ego-tripping power gamers" who are probably not good enough to be ranked at the top on merit but who will exploit the system so that their name appears as close to #1 as possible. So the challenge for the Devs is to come up with a system that is impossible to exploit using trickery.

So yes, for quite a few people reputation does serve a purpose but the current system in this game is broken and desperately needs a revamp.
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medal 5000
4 years 130 days ago

Kevin
With an internatonal player base spanning every time zone not everyone can directly compete with the managers who are perceived to be the best. So there are many gamers who genuinely want to understand how they stack up against other top managers who they are unable to race against.

Unfortunately there will always be the "Ego-tripping power gamers" who are probably not good enough to be ranked at the top on merit but who will exploit the system so that their name appears as close to #1 as possible. So the challenge for the Devs is to come up with a system that is impossible to exploit using trickery.

So yes, for quite a few people reputation does serve a purpose but the current system in this game is broken and desperately needs a revamp.



I was referring to 'game purpose'. As far as I can tell rep has zero effect on anything in actual gameplay, is that the case?

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medal 5002 Super Mod
4 years 130 days ago (Last edited by Kevin Bissell 4 years 130 days ago)
If you're talking about rep somehow being taken into account by the race sim and being a factor that influences the competitiveness of the cars, no I don't suppose it does have any effect on gameplay.

However, in my opinion Rep does have a purpose because average league reputation is often an important consideration for managers looking for a new league / greater challenge. Without individual reputation scores feeding into the league average how would people understand how competitive a league is likely to be?

Fortunately the inactive 10k accounts have no bearing on average league rep because they are not competing in any leagues.

But Luke's original post wasn't questioning whether or not there should be a reputation measure, he was suggesting there might be a better way of calculating it. As far as I know this is on Jack's "To-do-list" but I have no idea when he intends to change it or how any new rep ranking might work.
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medal 5000
4 years 130 days ago
That's good to hear. Having a sophisticated way of measuring reputation (calculating: wins, points, avg result vs your avg position (car, driver), positions gained, etc) will help to deliver us a way of truly comparing game knowledge and give us a real ranking among all...
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medal 5872
4 years 129 days ago
I have a problem, I can't run fast, in the end the game makes bad jokes, for four seasons I can't be as fast as I would like, cars at the start of the season are 💩, not very competitive and I can't win, they add many temperature difficulties on tires and some low level players who have no design points as those who are around 20 years mysteriously manage to go faster than higher level players on their account, I changed engineers I changed drivers nothing changes nothing, Respect to the other players I am having a lot of trouble running and others fast, 100 players of acceleration, and sometimes they manage to take DRS to go faster, I can't improve Boost, today the game made me wrong too strategy made me connected L 'intermediary instead of the wet tires, I had to recover in the wet from 29th position to 7th place it was difficult, I don't know if the prob but it is constantly changing engineer creates problems of development of the car during the seasons or it is the tires or the tires or the game does it on purpose to make me lose it is not normal what he is seeing, I would like to get out of this ugly situation to return to be strong and competitive as once, I would like to denounce this fact on the forum this story is not normal and is making me nervous, I would like KERS to change with the ERS to help recharge the battery, because when I consume all the electricity other players take advantage of it and buy the KERS saved to have advantages I hope to have your advice thank you!
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medal 5002 Super Mod
4 years 129 days ago
Hi Gianluca

Your post doesn't really sit in this thread, it's a bit off-topic. I have brought it to the attention of an experienced Italian Mod, hopefully he will be able to help you.

Thanks
Kev.
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medal 5000
4 years 129 days ago (Last edited by Bruno Brown 4 years 129 days ago)
Gianluca
intermediario usa le gomme da bagnato, ho dovuto recuperare sul bagnato dalla 29a posizione al 7 ° posto, è stato difficile, non così se il problema, ma è in costante evoluzione, ingegnerizza i problemi di sviluppo durante le stagioni o sono le gomme o le gomme o il gioco lo fa apposta per farmi perdere non è normale quello che sta vedendo, vorrei uscire da questa brutta situazione per tornare ad essere forte e competitivo come una volta, vorrei denunciare questo fatto sul forum questa storia non è normale e mi rende nervoso, vorrei che KERS cambiasse con l'ERS per aiutare a ricaricare la batteria, perché quando consuma tutta l'elettricità dagli altri giocatori ne approfittano e comprano il KERS salvato per avere vantaggi spero di avere il tuo consiglio grazie! non così se il problema, ma è in costante evoluzione, l ' ingegnere crea problemi di sviluppo auto durante le stagioni o sono le gomme o le gomme o il gioco lo fa apposta per farmi perdere non è normale quello che sta vedendo, io vorrei uscire da questa brutta situazione per tornare ad essere forte e competitivo come una volta , vorrei denunciare questo fatto sul forum questa storia non è normale e sta innervosendo, vorrei che KERS cambi con l'ERS per aiutare a ricaricare la batteria, perché quando consuma tutta l'elettricità gli altri giocatori ne approfittano e acquistano i KERS salvati per avere vantaggi spero di avere i tuoi consigli grazie! non così se il problema, ma è in costante evoluzione, l'ingegnere crea problemi di sviluppo l'auto durante le stagioni o sono le gomme o le gomme o il gioco lo fa apposta per farmi perdere non è normale quello che sta vedendo, io vorrei uscire da questa brutta situazione per tornare ad essere forte e competitivo come una volta, vorrei denunciare questo fatto sul forum questa storia non è normale e sta innervosendo, vorrei che KERS cambi con l'ERS per aiutare a ricaricare la batteria, perché quando consumo tutta l'elettricità gli altri giocatori ne approfittano e acquistano i KERS salvati per avere vantaggi spero di avere i tuoi consigli grazie! Vorrei uscire da questa situazione brutta per tornare ad essere forte e competitivo come una volta, vorrei denunciare questo fatto sul forum, questa storia non è normale e mi rende nervoso, vorrei che KERS cambiasse con l'ERS per aiutare a ricaricare la batteria, perché quando consuma tutta l ' elettricità gli altri giocatori ne approfittano e acquistano i KERS salvati per avere vantaggi spero di avere i tuoi consigli grazie! Vorrei uscire da questa situazione per tornare ad essere forte e competitivo come una volta, vorrei denunciare questo fatto sul forum, questa storia non è normale e mi rende nervoso, vorrei che KERS cambiasse con l'ERS per aiutare a ricaricare la batteria, perché quando consuma tutta l'elettricità dagli altri giocatori ne approfittano e acquistano i KERS salvati per avere vantaggi spero di avere i miei consigli grazie! i tuoi consigli grazie! perché quando consuma tutta l '

Ciao @Gianluca

Ho provveduto a spostare il tuo primo thread ( "Non è normale" nel nostro forum italiano, dove troverai i moderatori che daranno risposte alle tue domande. Ti chiedo gentilmente di non postare lo stesso argomento sotto altri thread che non c'entrano nulla con le tue richieste e di attenerti alle regole del forum, le trovi in questa guida:  Forum: condizioni d'uso ⤵️ . Provvederò anche ad eliminare il tuo stesso commento ripetuto e postato in diversi thread  https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/30698#177248  -  https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/30749#177250 .
Convinto di una tua collaborazione ti ringrazio anticipatamente.
SMod @Bruno Brown comunità italiana

English:
I've put your first thread ( "It's not normal" ) in our Italian forum, where you'll find the moderators who will answer your questions. I kindly ask you not to post the same topic under other threads that have nothing to do with your requests and to follow the rules of the forum, you can find them in this guide:  Forum: terms of use ⤵️ . I will also delete your own repeated comment posted in different threads https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/30698#177248 - https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/30749#177250 .
Convinced of your cooperation, thank you in advance.
SMod @Bruno Brown Italian community
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medal 5070
4 years 128 days ago
This is somewhat of a lazy idea, but why not remove the rep cap and allow rep to go as high as you can get it?  Having several individuals sitting at 10,000 rep doesn't portray who is better than who.
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medal 5000
4 years 122 days ago
Nothing does, really cos there are far too many variables 
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