Qualifying - Automatic 5/5 now?

Even if it does it still isn't enough. One of my drivers is virtually level 18 (17.9 or something) and I honestly don't think I've ever passed anyone just on track while racing for position. So long as the person knows what they are doing and isn't running stone cold blue tyres or something that is. All the overtaking in our league is done under DRS, kers or in the pits. We're all pretty experienced and often run the same strats or pretty similar strats but simply passing someone on the track is basically impossible unless as above, you have DRS or kers available. It's basically racing like a train otherwise.

For me the 5/5 qualy is a very good improvement. (should be 1 step of many)
Ok, there are some issues as Eton told and sure he is right in this.
But as Jack saw it, the problem is not in the Q push, more in the race and the problem to overtake. In our league some of us miss the start by 2 or 3 laps quite often but they come online. So for them (including myself there) this is great, as our league has a lot of people online. So no harm done if you’re just a bit late.
But still this hard overtaking, gives some boring races.
Often the strategy is not that different and all gets a bit boring.
 
If we just needed to use both (Soft and Hard) compounds, you can play with strategy a lot more.
And if we could have pre set push settings for the used compounds this gives people a chance who can not be there every day to at least score a few points. Now if you are not there you have no chance at all. We all have a life,… And if you can’t be there once and you suck so badly,.. that’s not fair. And if it happens 2 times in a series,.. forget about that season, concentrate on the next one,.. People will not show up anymore,… why should they, there chance is gone anyway.
 
So this q push setting 5/5 is in general a good thing, just a little step in the right direction.

This is a great addition and should be left well alone. This makes it much more realistic to have a driver on low fuel pushing as hard as they can to get the fastest lap.

People who are complaining about this should learn to adapt! 

I'll just say this - it's a system. Figure out how to win in it.

i like this change quite alot nice job.

Good Change +1

I'm actually really surprised to see you say this Tony. You spectate our league almost every day and know how competitive it is - Throw a couple of 2/5 guys up near the front of the grid and congrats, the race is over in the first lap. If I start P10 with six 2/5 guys in front of me I'd probably just set 2/5 and log off. What is the point, there is absolutely no hopes of catching P1 by the time I get passed all these slow guys. There would be absolutely no way to "win" with this system considering drivers don't pass until they have DRS or kers available.

As far as I can see this system is only good for leagues who don't have many active managers. For leagues that do have more active managers than non-active managers (like ours & speed series etc) this just rips the field apart and is a bad idea. So with that in mind, I think it should be an optional implementation for every league (like a tick box under the leagues management panel or something)

I'm against this though - It gives people even less incentive to get online and race.

Jason:  I will be increasing the ease of overtakes as clearly it is unrealistically difficult to overtake at the moment.  Also I'll make the push level have more of an affect of the aggressiveness of overtaking.  So in other words, you shouldn't then be held up by 2/5 push guys unless they are significantly better drivers/cars.

Do you not agree that these are the main issues?  Or is the new qualifying setting really a problem even if overtaking was more realistic?

No, that would most definitely solve it Andrew. My main problem with this new system is just because at the moment you're almost doomed until DRS is open - If you can pass people before DRS opens then there should be no problem :)

Yes, with easier overtaking on 1st 2 laps of race its would solve the problem that this has coursed and make the 5/5 quali push a good impliment..

When is that likely to happen roughly Andrew, days/weeks/months?

I think especially because it was an accident to release this qualifying change in the first place, I will try to get this overtaking improvement done within the next few days.  To avoid making another unpopular change though I will err on the side of caution and not adjust overtaking/push levels too much.  We can increase these changes over time if it looks like they're going in the right direction.

i like the sounds of that i hate spending laps stuck behind some one, makes it harder if there driver is good at defending. 

yeh that is the best course Andrew.  If you make too big a change then you just get a load of other people disagreeing - so small changes over time, if needed, will probably be the best option

I agree

I can't argue how bad this is for people who actually show up. Just lost 11 seconds in 2.5 laps around China. My race is screwed already. It is not on... WHY advantage people who don't show up to the race -> Why disadvantage those people who put in the effort and show up. I don't get it. 5/5 for 2 laps behind someone on 1/5 or 2/5 and no passing them.

I don't even understand the argument about it being more fair for the people who don't show up.. If you aren't there to control you are going to lose miserably at most tracks any way, all this is doing is screwing up other people in the process.

Lol in fact, the guy who was holding us all up is already a lap down, and we're only on lap 31/56. He isn't overheating his tyres or anything. It's China and he's on 5 stops softs 2/5 push from the looks of it.

It may not be a case of people not showing up, it may be they can't show up maybe?
I know I'll miss some because the times are when I'll be in uni lectures or in work.
Same will be true of a good number of others too surely?

As I explained, it doesn't really make any difference. If you are set on 2/5 you are going to get severely beaten regardless so long as the other people in your league are there to control their drivers, so I don't see the point in letting those drivers 5/5 qualify. It's not going to help you in the slightest (except for the odd track like Monaco where you can basically 5/5 all race)

In our league for instance, all this is doing is splitting the active managers up, and even though the 2/5 guys qualify well now they still finish last, so there is no point for it in our league. I reckon it should be optional per league (say a tick box under the manage league page or something)

I think this is a great improvement , however i would like to se more detailed management for each stint.
Unfortunately for me i can't attend all the races as work / life commitments do take over.
I am a 2D subscriber and would like to be able to tailor each stint for push levels and that would at least give people a chance to try different strategy's when they are not able to attend the race live.
I agree running behind the 2/5 push drivers is a pain but an update on the push effectiveness should take care of them before lap 3 when the DRS kicks in. A nice alternative would be to have proper KERS that  is available from lap 1 and recharges on a predetermined lap once or maybe twice throughout the race that would also benefit the managers that are attending. 
Anyway keep up the good work and Happy Racing to all.

Honestly, I love iGP and I appreciate the work you guys put in but this feature is ruining races in our league and I'm actually getting incredibly sick/bored of playing the game when my drivers qualify poorly or behind 2/5 guys. This REALLY needs to be an optional choice for the league host. It might suit some leagues but it does not suit leagues with more attending managers than non-attending ones (like our one for instance.. 8-9 active managers who always show up, 2-3 who don't show up for the race).