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Rookies System

Hello IGP and administrators,
I am a player with several years of experience on the platform, and I have adapted to the changes that have taken place over time. In this latest update, I have been recruiting friends, family members, and neighbors to join IGP Manager so we can spend time together through friendly tournaments. Unfortunately, they have only lasted about a week because they’ve found the new competition and/or promotion system to the PROFESSIONAL category too complicated, which has caused our project of creating another league together to fall apart.

I’m not sure what you can do to improve the changes brought by the new update, but otherwise, we are going to lose a lot of new managers — and in the long run, many of the veteran managers might lose interest as well.

Thank you for reading.
Sincerely,
Raul

Greetings.

First of all, I want to clarify that, in the rookie category, there was a very serious problem affecting the leagues. At least 8 out of 10 rookies would quit the game after their first race, and this is not the fault of the leagues for failing to capture the players' interest. It's the game's fault for having a very poor system where, if you don't come with a referral who teaches you how to play, you barely finish one race and get bored because you don't understand what's going on. This happened to me at the time, and now it has become even more evident—the game leaves you to your own luck.

The removal of the rookie category was a good solution to prevent leagues from having AFK accounts, but it was executed very poorly. The curve to reach level 10 is too steep. A player who dedicates the normal amount of time to iGP, that is, 30 to 90 minutes, won't reach level 10 through sprint races until after three weeks—an exaggerated amount of time. During this period, many get bored and abandon the game since, in the end, they are competing against bots. It seems like they only want to force players to invest more and more money quickly, instead of thinking that a quality game would attract more players willing to invest money.

I proposed something that, honestly, I don't understand why they didn't implement it and instead went for the worst system they could think of. Instead of sending them to do sprint races with bots, they should use those bots for rookie leagues—leagues with 19 bots and the user, where they can race whenever they have the chance, up to 10 races per day. They should stop thinking about short-term economic benefits and focus more on the player. It's easier for a player to get hooked when they can play frequently, feeling an experience closer to what the game offers—that is, playing in a league, earning points, competing, better tutorials to understand the game, the races, and more—rather than sending them to purposeless sprint races. With this approach, players, upon reaching level 10 or becoming champions of these bot leagues, could jump to real leagues with real people and would be better prepared.

My proposal is clear, and I think that if they implement it, it would be a huge success. They could also study methods to improve the game, whether through full online leagues or even offline leagues for rookies, where they can race up to 10 times a day without using their driver's health, earning money and experience. This way, they could reach the professional level much better prepared, and it would also allow the developers to study systems to improve the game for more veteran users.

Developer team.
It is a necessity to make a change soon for IGP to be attractive to new users.

Having to compete 4-5 daily races is exhausting.
Doing it alone with 1-3 cars that are probably bots makes it more boring.
To all this adding that they are several days in the same, it really makes no sense to someone who has just installed the game.

Keep in mind the different proposals and thus stay.
Thank you

I totally agree with the above, although the update brought a couple of novelties, it is also debatable that the rookie category disappeared, the leagues require new people and forcing new ones to have to run with bots only bores them and does not allow the in-game experience to be as expected, therefore I personally consider that they should return the rookie category, or create pure rookie leagues so that they can compete and thus achieve better experiences, as well as. When they have to make the leap to a competitive league when they reach level 10, they can do so more easily and more experiencedly. 

"I am the administrator of 2 leagues. Since the last update, problems have not stopped, bugs, design modifications, inability to access the headquarters, difficulties entering the game, etc., etc.
The restructuring they carried out with the categories was NOT successful, the new ones get tired and don't even reach level 5 because it's "boring". We need new Managers to come back."

I've been in this game since 2017/2018, and the arrival of new players is becoming less and less frequent. In recent years, I've been meeting new people, but at the same time, we're still the same old group, just moving from one league to another.

In my opinion, the new system only makes things worse. The fun of the game is in the leagues; that's where you have fun and learn. In many leagues, academies were created where elite players taught the newcomers in their rookie and professional courses. Now, in addition to wasting time on quick races, which, by the way, have nothing to do with a league race, they make you level up to level 10, which can take several weeks. I don't know what will happen with this, but this decision seems wrong to me and will end up killing the gam
e.

I have been playing IGP since 2019. During that time, I have experienced some updates. I understand that the goal of the IGP team is to maintain a good player retention rate.

Why did I stay in IGP?
First, because I am passionate about F1. Second, because the game's difficulty was just right—not too complex, but challenging enough to allow progression as you understand the mechanics, making it feel worthwhile.
At the beginning, I joined a league called the "learning league," and I entered precisely because of that. It wasn’t a very crowded league, but there I learned that race results depended on strategy and car development. That alone might have kept me playing for a year or two.
However, what truly sets this game apart from other F1 management experiences is the community. Veteran players know each other, organize competitions, and learn about other events through their league mates. It’s the community that sustains and shapes IGP into what it is.
The managers of different leagues are the ones who truly make the game unique through their efforts. That’s why giving them more options to design leagues, listening to their feedback, and asking for their opinions on why players leave would be essential.

I also don’t see the point in having a different car setup for each race, since once you reach level 10, everything changes anyway.
On the other hand, removing lower-level players (below level 10) from real competition only highlights that increasing the level cap to 30 was not a good decision. It completely unbalanced the leagues, further reducing the number of low-level players and causing many to quit before reaching level 30.
This change didn’t affect those of us who were already at level 20, since it applied to everyone at the same time. However, for new players, having 30 levels ahead of them is simply too much.

Make every new account start at 20.
Phase out sprint races replacing rookie and instead have just two tiers. Pro & Elite.
Cap joining elite at Level 25.
Pro populated, elite populated.

Sorted.

I suggest reducing the level needed to enter in a league from 10 to 5. Or instead changing the experience gained on the sprints, making it progressive as the investigation is. 

It's true that our leagues are loosing more players and PRO category has been destroyed. So we'd like a solution for this massive problem. Thanks support team for hearing our wishes!! ♥️

Maybe new recruits could be directed here.. or this and anything else people can suggest could be in it's own section.

https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/61729

Completely agree with Pablo, there's a noticeable drop in activity in the leagues, and it would be good to do something to bring back the previous activity, with more active rookies.

Honestly, as harsh as this may sound and as much as it might cause issues, I feel like you're treating us as fools, as if we know nothing about the game and you know everything, as if you're trying to deceive us, and you contradict yourselves.

Second point from the comments: According to you, leagues now need 1/3 fewer managers to be full, and that's true, it's the case because there is no rookie category anymore. Obviously, they go from needing 48/96 players to just 24/48. But without rookies, professional leagues can't fill up either, because players aren't reaching the required level 10. It's the same issue—leagues aren't filling up, and now it's even harder. Since players aren't reaching the professional level, they can't fill professional leagues, and therefore, elite leagues don't grow either. The game now depends on the same players as always, many of whom compete in multiple leagues with different accounts. Otherwise, leagues would have even fewer problems filling up.

Point number 3: According to you, in 40 sprint races, you can reach level 10 by finishing in the top 50%. According to you, it takes 6 hours, or 3 with XP boosters. So why are leagues reporting that they aren't getting new players? According to you, it's very easy—6 hours, 1 hour per day, and you're there. But we, as league administrators, have better data than you. We know perfectly well whether players are reaching that level or not, and we've seen it—there are no new members in the leagues. Everything is stagnant. In my case, my league went from averaging 4-5 new players per month (3 in rookie and 2 in professional) to 0 new players in the month of the update, and even 3 fewer players, as they rotate from league to league. It's been 1 month since the update. If level 10 can be reached in 6 hours, and this is the peak time for new player registrations, why haven't any leagues reported an increase in players? Instead, they report losses. Big leagues with multiple divisions have reported eliminating their categories, while others have had to implement measures you don't like but are necessary, such as account sharing, because those who were in rookie leagues were left stranded. On top of that, there are constant connection issues. You always use the excuse, "Our servers are running 10/10, the problem is your connection." Gentlemen, I tested this with my phone and my PC connected via Ethernet cable, 5G connection, directly to the router, with only my phone connected, and a 600 Mbps fiber optic connection. It's impossible to maintain the connection throughout the entire race. And before you say it's my internet, the same thing happens with mobile data. And before you say it's my phone, in other games, the connection is 10/10. On my PC, connected via Ethernet cable, it's more stable, but it still tends to fail. How do you expect players to reach level 10 in 6 hours if they can't even maintain a stable connection? New players come to play on mobile phones—if the game isn't stable, it's impossible for them to play and level up.

Point 4: Players are being pressured to spend money on tokens. I don't know if you've noticed (though I think you have, since you've calculated everything perfectly), but by not racing in leagues, the factory doesn't produce parts, and engines aren't restored. Players have to buy them with tokens to keep racing, in addition to having to train their drivers to improve (which adds to the previous point about why it's impossible to reach level 10 in 6 hours). Did you realize that players have to spend tokens to buy parts and engines? So, if a player spends everything because they don't know the game well and doesn't reach level 10, they're doomed to spend money on tokens. This drives players away. It makes no sense to say the game is balanced when new players are suffering more now.

Point 5: I'll be direct, Jack. Do you realize how ridiculous what you said sounds? Let's say I'm someone completely new, and I don't have any friends who play iGP Manager. I'm starting from scratch. How is a friend who knows the game supposed to join me in a sprint lobby if I don't have any friends in the game? Additionally, let's say someone does what you suggest and guides a friend they invited. That person has to spend parts and engines to teach their friend, which is illogical because they're saving everything for their own league. Do you realize how bad that sounds? This is something the game should do on its own. Otherwise, how does someone completely new learn to play? Moreover, under this logic, it's the veteran players who must invite new players so the community grows and you make more money. And we're supposed to spend our resources to buy tokens and give you more money? It's a blatant scam. I haven't seen such a shameless response from a developer in years...

Sorry, Jack, but you're taking us for fools here. We, as league administrators, have a better record of what's happening in iGP than you do. We're the ones who see the game's decline day by day, and you can't try to deceive us. We have data from all the leagues that communicate with each other to confirm our complaints. Leagues aren't receiving new users, the game has become a pay-to-progress system, players aren't getting hooked, and they're being pressured to pay. On top of that, you want to give league administrators the task of growing the game without proper rewards. This is a joke...

In my experience of a new account (Level 8), I am able to afford everything I need. It's not everything (Offices HQ building, for example) but I'm in no danger of bankruptcy, and I'd call the balance good.
I'd agree there are improvements to be made to player retention, but I must say that I think characterising the update as a failure this early is very unfair

Hello Jack, sorry for the delayed response. I appreciate you taking the time to respond to the community. 


First of all, I’d like to clarify a few things: My intention with this thread in the forum is to improve the game, not to criticize the update. From my point of view, the update is good—at least to a certain extent.












In my opinion, the lack of level 10 rookies is due to the long progression path. Completing around 20-30 sprint races should be enough for a rookie—ideally, by that point, they should already be in a league, competing with others. Another interesting option would be to lower the required level to 5, which I don’t see as a bad idea.
I personally enjoy the community and communication, and if the entry requirements for leagues were reduced, it would be a great advantage, allowing rookies to join leagues more quickly and keeping them engaged.
I think the marketing campaign is fantastic! I actively promote my own league on social media, and I believe this is a crucial and important step for the game’s growth.




Yes, it is long. When I talk to rookies who have reached level 10, they all say the same thing.
In this case, I want to help improve the game, so I came up with the idea of reaching out to all the rookies and gathering general feedback on their experience, so they can share their thoughts here. I will talk to them, and they will share their opinions.
Everything is for the betterment of the game.





The invitation system in iGP follows the classic referral model, but mentorship is something entirely different. Here’s how the mentorship system works:
Volunteers sign up as mentors in the language of their choice.
New players can request mentorship and are shown a list of the highest-rated mentors. They get to choose whom they want to learn from.
A mentor can guide multiple rookies at the same time.
Once the rookie reaches a certain level, the mentorship ends.
Mentors can be rewarded with a badge on their manager profile, in-game money, tokens, or other incentives. However, the most important aspect is the symbolic recognition of their contribution.
The mentorship system offers significant advantages over the verified system. Instead of a rigid structure where new players must prove themselves before gaining full access to the game, mentorship creates a more engaging and personalized experience. It fosters a stronger sense of community, encourages player retention, and ensures that newcomers have direct guidance from experienced players. This system not only helps rookies integrate more smoothly but also rewards veteran managers who actively contribute to growing and improving the iGP community.

Hi! There's a bug that I don't know if it's personal or if it happens to everyone, but I have a level 7 account that I used to try sprint races, and although it now lets me click on the "Leagues" option, my account profile says I'm in beginner mode, so no leagues appear in the search engine and it doesn't let me join one.