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iGP Manager 26: New League System Explained

Yes which is why I feel setting season lengths on the basis of months is a weird choice. Most games that have a "season" feature do so in terms of weeks, which is usually 4 weeks. But since we dont have that many tracks to accommodate for a league that chooses to run everyday, it needs to be something lower.
IMO, I would have set 3 weeks per season as the default, as I view that as the sweet spot, To justify, auto generated / assigned leagues will be able to run 21 races per season (lower than the number of tracks that we have), and leagues which run reasonable schedules like avoiding races on weekends, but still intend to stay inline with the global calendar, to attract fresh faces between the season, or just in general facilitate the movement of people between leagues (in case the host does not want to pay for the boost anymore), could still run 5 x 3 = 15 races, which coincidentally happens to be the minimum number of races per season in the current version of the game.

Thank you for giving such a long answer and not answering my question.

My league has now races on 24 and 25 december (the last two of the season, probably crucial).


It really smells as a first way to want my money in order to change these dates.

Well, it will defo not happen. I prefer quitting the game rather than follow this bad path the game is following.

It was already said that leagues are only converted into the new system after the current (at time of update) season finishes. So no pay required here, also if there are doubts why not just setting up the schedule already before the update?

Oh, forgot about that one. Yea, could be a solution too.

if I understand correctly, the new leagues will always start on days 1 and 16th, and the last championships already scheduled will not be affected,
all championships that end after the 16th will not start again before January 1st...
if this were the case, the problem of racing at Christmas is solved.

in any case I'll come back to propose my idea again; instead of 2 seasons of 15 races, a single season of 19 races per 4weeks with races from Monday to Friday,
and an extra day at the end of the season for championship changes.
on the weekend, EVENT races with perhaps BOOST as prizes up for grabs....
months ago we talked about "community at the center", reading the comments, it seems to me that the community is closer to my idea than to the one you are offering. isn't it?

I have also doubt about 2 season in a month.... February is too short....

So as you probably don't know... I’m a broke college student running a good sized casual league. 
Most of my members only have about 30 minutes a day to race, and our current race distance/speed settings are the only way they can participate consistently (2x, 50%).
 If we get pushed into longer race formats through voting like 100% distance at 1× speed, the league would basically collapse. People simply don’t have the time. And I can't afford splitting the bill. Nobody would back me.

With the new system requiring boosts to keep custom settings, I’m genuinely concerned with losing friends I have made here. I don’t have the money to maintain boosts myself, and I can’t expect to force my league to pay to keep the league functioning the way it does now. 

I love running this league, but these changes might make it impossible for us to continue.
I completely understand the goal of making leagues more consistent and improving the overall experience. I would just hope there’s a way to ensure smaller or low-budget leagues aren’t pushed into race formats that don’t fit their player base.
If there’s any possibility of keeping the small basic customization free — especially race distance and race speed — it would help leagues like mine survive the transition.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. I really appreciate all the work that goes into the game, and I hope casual already formed leagues can still have a place in the new system.

Hi Jack,

Out last race is Tomorrow night [Friday 12th] we usually have a 2 day gap between seasons, with a 19 race season. I assume the system will generaty the new season schedule as normal [ie.our league technically will have started before the launch of IGP26], therefore i would assume our season will run as normal until it finishes in Janurary, then a short season to run until the 15th Jan, with us then being alligned to the new community schedule?

Confirmation of this would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Sean

How will seasons work in February?
Will there be a Level 40 or Level 50 tier?
Will there be any way to earn boosts for free?

Thank you. I hope this works out! Much appreciation for the response.

The update seems promising.

But I think the already proposed idea of switching to a 3-week format is far better than the current format of starting a league on the 1st/16th day of a month. Having a 3-week format could also allow adding the 1-day off in between seasons.

Also how much will the vip tier cost? And what will be possible to do with the monthly boost you get from it?

Basford has done it again smh.

I host a private, password-protected league which races once per week. We joined iGP from an external community and have been racing seven years, with fairly few problems caused by the game - all of which have been managed. With this update, am I now going to have to pay £9.99 per month for tier 4 or else be forced into some global system where we have to race every day on a calendar we cannot choose?

Essentially, am I now going to have to fork out a lot of money each year to play a "free-to-play" game the same way I've been playing for 7 years?

widescreen mobile?

Marco. exatamente, nós que deveríamos ser beneficiados por praticamente carregar esse jogo nas costas, seremos os mais prejudicados, se a intensão é o lucro, deveriam vender pinturas para os veículos e para os capacetes, geraria uma boa renda, e não prejudicaria quem mais contribue com o jogo, gastando seu tempo para administrar uma liga repleta de gerentes tóxicos, com pouquíssimas ferramentas de contenção.
uma mudança sem dúvida, muito injusta para os anfitriões.

English Translation:
Marco. Exactly, we who should be benefiting from practically carrying this game on our backs will be the most negatively affected. If the intention is profit, they should sell liveries for the vehicles and for the helmets; that would generate good revenue and wouldn't harm those who contribute the most to the game, spending their time managing a league full of toxic managers with very few containment tools.
A change that is, without a doubt, very unfair to the hosts.

For racing once a week on the game as it was, if we wanted xp boosts, then it was about £15 per year - and that was a choice. For thanklessly playing the game and being engaged with it for years, we now have to pay an extortionate amount to keep doing so. I don't think the "if it's 12 people in a league and everyone pays then it's only £10 a year" argument holds any water; it is nice in principle but you can't make people in your league pay to play - you're just going to lose communities, because people don't want to be forced under a new system.

The single main benefit of iGP was that you could play it on your terms and at low cost. Now it is either/or. You can either play a huge amount per year to keep the game on your terms, or play for free but you have to play every day, possibly against completely random people which just isn't as fun as an integrated community. It is gearing it towards attempting to attract new players - which I understand is a business necissity - but it is just leaving those who have been dedicated players for years out in the cold. If I want to play a racing management game, what is the incentive to pay £120 a year for this, when I can pick up F1 Manager 24 for about £20 and once I have paid a 1 time flat fee I can then play it whenever and however I want to? There is no longer an incentive to play this game if the options are to be forced into a system or pay an extortionate amount. I do not know anyone in my league who has the time to play on a daily basis - nor who would want to play the game every day on settings and a calendar they cannot choose.


I would love to have an open or private dialogue with Jack that reaches a solution which works for attracting new players and allowing those who have poured a lot of dedicated time into the game for years to continue doing so. If I were to play for another 7 years as I have done since 2018, it would cost £840 - having previously been free. £10 a month to race once a week is ridiculous; even a new video-game which costs money to play would only be around £70, and I would be happy to pay a 1-time fee of that amount for my league to retain the ability to set a custom calendar, on the days that suit us, and with the league rules retained - and then pay for any other stuff like xp boosters on top of that, should we want them. That makes far more sense and is way more in keeping with how a normal video game works. A rolling fee of that amount is simply too much and the idea that it is "too little to be of note" if everyone pays is just a poor attempt to dispel a real issue.

Let people who want to keep playing the game as before pay a one off flat fee around the price of a normal new video game to keep playing as they have. Under the proposed system, to race once a week or four times a month means £2.50 a race. Whereas if you want to race every day but with custom rules and calendar it is the same - I would consider it a fair solution to make it £10 per season for tier 4, so that if you race once per week you aren't being astronomically shafted for not wanting to bow to this new system, which we have no real choice over.

I really want to keep playing the game as we have for years, and when there have been other updates which have seemingly hindered our ability to do so, we have found a work around to keep doing so. This seems pretty much unworkable. I would love to have a serious, private dialogue with Jack to come to a solution that can allow the innumerate players who have enjoyed their leagues with their friends to keep that soul in the game rather than being forced into this soulless every day system; because there are definitely workable solutions which do not border on the level of extortion proposed. A rolling £120 per year for any video game is pretty much unheard of, and frankly absurd. There needs to be an alteration to this - I've suggested at least 2 in this post which would be fairer on those who have thanklessly kept playing for years and years, and are now being disregarded in an attempt to get new players. I understand it is necessary to get new players, but it is not fair to force people to pay so much to maintain literally any part of the game as it has existed to date.

None of this is particularly surprising by now is it? I am simply tired of the contrived explanations and excuses, none of what we say is going to make a difference.