Rejected

Disable Bots

These bots are ruining races, they need to be disabled when their manager isn't online, and then enabled when they enter the race.
The bot/A.I. KERS on lap 3 is an absolute joke, for example tonight's race, I qualified badly in 6th, I passed two bots in 2 laps to get up to 4th, and then on lap 3, they Auto-KERS'd past me and I dropped back into position 6.  These cars were so slow and I lost 2.5s in the next 2 laps, and my race was over, the top 3 were out of sight.
Our league is so competitive that any use of KERS early on and basically you have lost the race.
Its ok if you are high up in qualifying, but for the rest its wrecking peoples races.
Can we at least add an option for the league owner to able or disable bot/A.I. KERS?

I understand your frustration but a part of this game is being able to have a degree of automation if you're not able to attend races on a given night. Maybe an alternative to what you're saying is to reprogram the AI to use boost at more appropriate times, rather than the lap 3 dash we all know. Generally speaking though, if you're that much faster than the AI cars in front you should be able to overtake them with some clever use of push level. Unless they're defaulted to pl5 in which case they'll burn out their tyres... 

So in the case someone joins a race like 10 seconds too late, they wouldn't get a chance to even try to get points?

no Richard as soon as they are active, they can race as normal, 

So, you are saying that people whom cannot get onto the race for legitimate reasons cannot have a chance to get points because you find it too hard to get past them?

Is that not just a little unfair on those people, especially if they have set up for that race?

We need the faires compwtition possible for all players. And only if inactive for at least two races, as it already is, should retirement or time penalties be given in my opinion.

From, where? Do they just appear out of nowhere on the right lap or do they have to start on lap 1, making it impossible for them to do anything?

Sounds like some form of black magic or alchemy to me Mr. Herman.  This idea may very well take up too much development time in their already busy schedule (I would imagine)...

Completely agree with this. It’s not saying disable their car so they don’t race, just don’t allow them to kers. To be honest if they’re not at the race, they aren’t going to score points so it doesn’t affect much whether they have kers or not . Just if they qualify well, it makes them a nuisance as they re-overtake you. 

Why was this rejected, any reason given?

This game doesn’t require you to be online to play so disabling KERS would be unfair to those players.

However, if you can’t beat inactive players you must be doing something seriously wrong so maybe you need to review the strategy you are using as you should be lapping them during the course of a race

I agree, you should be able to beat the offline racers. Use them wisely to get drs, they will revenge-overtake you using boost, that should give you drs once more.


So i’d say try using them to your advantage. The fact they use boost at a certain lap means you can use that knowledge. Get ahead of them in lap 3, let them cruise by and use them for drs.

Haha cheers for that, your level of insight is amazing. I must take a long hard look at myself for not being able to beat inactive players ?


In all seriousness though, you have just summed up what we’re trying to say. Inactive players aren’t going to do well, so why make them all kers on lap 3 and then again the lap before they pit. The league we’re in is extremely tight so when you lose a few seconds early in the race, or have to use kers to get passed the inactive players, it kills your race. 

Them kersing is pointless, and league owners should be able to switch it off.

Inactive players are not programmed to not do well, they are programmed to be something in the region of competitive, thats why they use kers. In a competitive league, active managers win races, inactives might do well in a race, take some points or maybe even a surprise podium place.


If you cant beat inactive players of the same level, i think you should have a long look at yourself. For if all those inactives would turn active, where would you end up in that race?

Did you read what I put? If not go back and read it properly. I’m not saying we lose to inactive players, I think we both agree that the inactive players do poorly and are usually lapped, or we’ll behind by the end of the race. I’m saying that the few seconds you can lose behind an inactive racer on lap 3 after they kers past you, can be crucial in your race against the other active players. 

The league we’re in is extremely tight and the top 2-3 is never usually separated by more than a second, hence every second or little bit of kers you use can be vital. 

Does that make sense? Have a look at the league I’m in and you’ll see how tight it is

To me, this sounds like a bunch of sour grapes from somebody whom is getting no luck.  


There are three potential reasons, if you miss (either way) DRS from an inactive backmarker in my opinion.  Those being: -

1)  You are pushing your car too hard or not hard enough during the race.

2)  you have over or under developed your car prior to the race.

3) you got your setup slightly incorrect prior to the race.

Any of all three of those will result in either your car being under or over competitive, thus, meaning that you may go too far behind or just ahead of the backmarker prior to the DRS zone.

May I also point out that I think that the current situation is the best.  It is just up to the league host(s) to police inactive players properly.  Then this will not occur as much.

This literally makes no sense what so ever and has nothing to do with what the original post was about or what I put ??‍♂️. 


I’d love to know how you over develop your car? And become over competitive?

This is about the inactives ruining peoples races at the beginning when they qualify behind them/get kersed passed on lap 3. 

I am giving potential reasons why you go past or do not get close enough to these cars that you may be able to experiment with to get the same advantage as others..  


It is not the inactives that should be penalised, other than dropping division or being booted.  It is the rest of us that could and should work to take advantage of those cars, until they have dropped division or have been booted.

(Sent from a secondary account.  Still the same Tim Barry...)

That’s not what this is about though. This is about them using kers on lap 3 all the time. Timing backmarkers as you come up to lap them is completely different. 

Example 1 - your two title rivals are 1st and 2nd and you’re 4th. 3rd is an inactive (who will eventually get lapped but at the start has qualified well). Start of lap 3 and the inactive kers’ away from you meaning you now have to use kers to get drs which at say Canada is only a few corners away. You’re immediately at a disadvantage to your rivals 

Example 2 - title rivals are in 1st and 2nd and you’re in 3rd. Start of lap 3 and 2 inactives then kers passed you. They’re slower than you so then you lose time behind them or have to use kers to get passed. Immediately you’re at a disadvantage to your rivals.

The inactives in our league don’t score points and usually get lapped. It should be down to the league owners to decide whether they have this automatic kers or not. When the races are so close, it can cost valuable points and races shouldn’t be decided by inactive players and random kersing

Sorry but how do inactives qualify well as they will have default set up?  If they have manually set up then they are not inactive.  You don’t have to view the race to be active and is a game feature so should not be in the power of hosts to change.

Getting caught behind backmarkers is a hazard of racing real or vitrtual

I don’t see the problem. If you’re 4th, you’ll always be at a disadvantage against 1st and 2nd.


You know when the guy in 3rd will kers away, how can that be to your disadvantage.

And an inactive in 4th or 5th, you know when they kers away, just let them not pass you by, time your use of kers, problem solved.

@M B Young

When I say inactives, I mean the ones not there for the race. I still think it should be up to the host. I’m not saying kick them out of the league, just shouldn’t be able to use kers. It doesn’t really help them in the race, just messes up the people that are there.

@Slo Bro

That’s my whole point, you have to use kers when you wouldn’t normally need to. That little bit of kers you have to use can decide the race in our league. When you’re 3rd and they’re 1st and 2nd, it wouldn’t be a big disadvantage as I’d be in their drs train