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John Romsay
7 years 109 days ago

I come here to express my indignation with this subject !! A hard tire will never be faster than a soft or super soft tire you urgently need to review this because, I played 10 laps of S and was doing 2s below who was using H this is impossible in real life even in perfect conditions one hard tire can never be faster than an SS or S and another SS tire has to be much faster by putting at least 15s at 5 volts against a hard at the beginning of the run and this does not match. So programmers review this because it's completely out of the picture.

Thank you in advance for your attention.

Duc Anh
7 years 109 days ago

There are numerous reasons why Hard could be faster than SS or S tires:
1: Your tires could be below 50% as it starts to lose grip on the tires so you go slower
2Your tires are overheating.He had his tires in optimal temperature and was using Push Level 5
3:His car was faster than yours
4:His drivers were better than yours
5:He had lower fuel loadout than you

Vance Sim
7 years 109 days ago

First of all, you shouldn't compare this game to real F1.

You need to look at conditions of track, like temperatures and tyre wear, and choose the tyres that best fit those conditions, and run the right push levels so your tyres don't overheat too much or grain from having too low push.

As expressed in a number of threads and even Joey's guides, Hards is a really good tyre when running longer stints. Also, when you're running softer tyres, make sure you don't overheat them or you'll lose lots of pace. On the live viewer, ensure the temps are not too far up in the red.

Fuel levels also matter. If you've just pitted for a long stint while the Hards runner is yet to pit, the guy on hards may be lighter before he pits and will lap 1-2s faster compared to you for a few laps.

John Romsay
7 years 109 days ago

all the items that you described at no time had except that his pilot is better than my but my car and the best of the league and even using SS I should give at least 3 laps below 1:28:00 and do not do this the max was 1: 30: 066 and he with hard made 1: 28: 200 this is impossible being that he was with more fuels and I with less and I of S did not less than 1:29 high I explain it has no way Hard to be faster than SS or S friend.

Duc Anh
7 years 109 days ago

Did he use KERS or DRS during his Hard stint?

Greg Broz
7 years 109 days ago

And the temperature at Turkey?

John Romsay
7 years 109 days ago

Boomer

First of all, you shouldn't compare this game to real F1.

You need to look at conditions of track, like temperatures and tyre wear, and choose the tyres that best fit those conditions, and run the right push levels so your tyres don't overheat too much or grain from having too low push.

As expressed in a number of threads and even Joey's guides, Hards is a really good tyre when running longer stints. Also, when you're running softer tyres, make sure you don't overheat them or you'll lose lots of pace. On the live viewer, ensure the temps are not too far up in the red.

Fuel levels also matter. If you've just pitted for a long stint while the Hards runner is yet to pit, the guy on hards may be lighter before he pits and will lap 1-2s faster compared to you for a few laps.

At any moment I let the tires always overheat looking at the display and doing everything possible to give the max of the car and the driver the factor is that a hard tire will never be faster than an SS or S even in perfect conditions it makes the game take as unanimously the hards tires not having to use another type of tire this is the question !!

John Romsay
7 years 109 days ago

Greg

And the temperature at Turkey?

19º

John Romsay
7 years 109 days ago

Duc

Did he use KERS or DRS during his Hard stint?

No he did not use it because there was more. he used everything to be able to pass me in the first few laps when he left S and after that he came from Hard and I from S and he became heavier than I 1s

Duc Anh
7 years 109 days ago

John

Boomer

First of all, you shouldn't compare this game to real F1.

You need to look at conditions of track, like temperatures and tyre wear, and choose the tyres that best fit those conditions, and run the right push levels so your tyres don't overheat too much or grain from having too low push.

As expressed in a number of threads and even Joey's guides, Hards is a really good tyre when running longer stints. Also, when you're running softer tyres, make sure you don't overheat them or you'll lose lots of pace. On the live viewer, ensure the temps are not too far up in the red.

Fuel levels also matter. If you've just pitted for a long stint while the Hards runner is yet to pit, the guy on hards may be lighter before he pits and will lap 1-2s faster compared to you for a few laps.

At any moment I let the tires always overheat looking at the display and doing everything possible to give the max of the car and the driver the factor is that a hard tire will never be faster than an SS or S even in perfect conditions it makes the game take as unanimously the hards tires not having to use another type of tire this is the question !!

That is your problem.your tires were overheating.So you're gonna lose pace,being slower than usual and he was in optimal temperature.And you also stated that his driver were better.So you need to manage the temperature well.This is usual for Elite.They manage the tire temp in the optimal temperature

John Romsay
7 years 109 days ago

Duc

John

Boomer

First of all, you shouldn't compare this game to real F1.

You need to look at conditions of track, like temperatures and tyre wear, and choose the tyres that best fit those conditions, and run the right push levels so your tyres don't overheat too much or grain from having too low push.

Let's face it a hard tire will never be 2s faster than pole time in impotese. Is this wrong and it was turning 1:29 and 1:28 high all the time how can this be? I would have to have in the min of 5 to 7 laps below the pole using S tires and this did not happen being that my cars in the classification were faster !!! Explain this to me !!! Let's change it there because it is completely out of reality people the guy did not use Kers because he had no more and was turning down the pole with Hrad there is no way.

As expressed in a number of threads and even Joey's guides, Hards is a really good tyre when running longer stints. Also, when you're running softer tyres, make sure you don't overheat them or you'll lose lots of pace. On the live viewer, ensure the temps are not too far up in the red.

Fuel levels also matter. If you've just pitted for a long stint while the Hards runner is yet to pit, the guy on hards may be lighter before he pits and will lap 1-2s faster compared to you for a few laps.

At any moment I let the tires always overheat looking at the display and doing everything possible to give the max of the car and the driver the factor is that a hard tire will never be faster than an SS or S even in perfect conditions it makes the game take as unanimously the hards tires not having to use another type of tire this is the question !!

That is your problem.your tires were overheating.So you're gonna lose pace,being slower than usual and he was in optimal temperature.And you also stated that his driver were better.So you need to manage the temperature well.This is usual for Elite.They manage the tire temp in the optimal temperature

John Romsay
7 years 109 days ago

Let's face it a hard tire will never be 2s faster than pole time in impotese. Is this wrong and it was turning 1:29 and 1:28 high all the time how can this be? I would have to have in the min of 5 to 7 laps below the pole using S tires and this did not happen being that my cars in the classification were faster !!! Explain this to me !!! Let's change it there because it is completely out of reality people the guy did not use Kers because he had no more and was turning down the pole with Hrad there is no way.

Vance Sim
7 years 109 days ago

If you always overheat your tyres, no wonder he can be much faster for a good number of laps. The optimum temperature range, in the black, is where the tyres perform the fastest.

19C in Turkey is 50/50 between hards and softs, but because of high wear there and the long straights (tyres heat up more in long straights in this game) Hards are usually better in Turkey. It's different for each track.

On other tracks at 19C, you'll find softs to be as if not much more competitive with the right number of stints (not too long stints or it'll be too worn). Britain, Germany, Hungary, Belgium to give some examples. When temps are low enough in certain tracks, the softer tyres will also be better as if the weather is too cool, it'll be difficult to warm up the Hards.

John Romsay
7 years 109 days ago

5 laps using SS was to give 2s per lap in the min over a hard that being modest and hard should never make time less than the pole that never happened in the history of motoring and will never happen let's be honest !!!

John Romsay
7 years 108 days ago

Boomer

If you always overheat your tyres, no wonder he can be much faster for a good number of laps. The optimum temperature range, in the black, is where the tyres perform the fastest.

19C in Turkey is 50/50 between hards and softs, but because of high wear there and the long straights (tyres heat up more in long straights in this game) Hards are usually better in Turkey. It's different for each track.

On other tracks at 19C, you'll find softs to be as if not much more competitive with the right number of stints (not too long stints or it'll be too worn). Britain, Germany, Hungary, Belgium to give some examples. When temps are low enough in certain tracks, the softer tyres will also be better as if the weather is too cool, it'll be difficult to warm up the Hards.

I'm not an expert in this game but I've been playing simulators since I started racing competitions and I know that overheated tires pay less I keep them in the middle I just want the programmers to understand that a hard tire will never be faster than an SS or an S conditions. Correct this, please.

Duc Anh
7 years 108 days ago

Well in the game,the lap record is like 10 second-ish faster than the qualifying record so It is possible in this game to have the fastest lap of the race faster than the qualifying lap

John Romsay
7 years 108 days ago

Duc

Well in the game,the lap record is like 10 second-ish faster than the qualifying record so It is possible in this game to have the fastest lap of the race faster than the qualifying lap

I made the pole with 1:29 of SS and the guy turned several laps of hard doing less time of doq of the pole that is impossible using tires hards

John Romsay
7 years 108 days ago

This a prove...

https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=4669793&tab=race

Vance Sim
7 years 108 days ago

Of course you can start on pole with SS when your nearest rival is on harder tyres. Race pace is different. Unlike real life F1 in 2017, Hards are not useless in this game when you know how to use them well.

Duc Anh
7 years 108 days ago

He sets the 1'27 lap on the last lap of the race.So he could have DRS aids from backmarkers and he just have his car PL5 that whole lap because the DRS straight is not at the start/finish line so the could have had DRS assistance from a fellow backmarker.I'm so used to this Hard tires faster than SS and S situation it's not even funny anynore

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