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Hard Tires more faster than SS or S tires!!! OMG

Let's not forget higher push levels affect driver health too. In a 75% or 100% race that can make or break a race if stamina isn't fully trained.

Yeah.After the race,that engine went from 100% straight down to like 80%

Hello! I really liked the explanation, but that does not explain why the H tires are so fast even in unfavorable conditions. This weekend 4 players gave up the game because of this saying they find it completely without logic a tire hard to be faster than an SS or S I know well of that because I saw the race the track to 12º without high wear and SS turning 2s more slow, I give reason for the players to give up because they put together a whole strategy to see if you can stay on the tip there comes a hard tire in the same conditions and wins the race this is very clueless. Another one today from the Elite of my league Vinicius said he will stop playing because he got discouraged with Hard being as fast as the other tires and he is right also in two races we stayed behind the H being that the weather was cold and we were turning 1: 30: 8 and our rival with H turning 1:29:00 is completely illogical. Before they say something just to mention I have the best car in the league and I'm doing everything for the staff not to leave but this question of H are OP ta ending the game. Once again review this. Thank you all.

I had a race today in Aus, 14c SS on PL1 was slightly overheating, whilst the other persons H was on PL4 and was optimum temp. Result? The H was running 0.4s quicker. I still won the race but only because they joined the game late. I thought about using Hards but decided against it.

You have to stop thinking about 'in the real world' and adjust to the game and play it accordingly. The tools are the same for you as everyone else.

Hards shouldn't work in Aus. No one in top leagues has used them there to any good effect. How many laps did you run your SS for? Because tyre wear also plays huge part. SS in Aus are the fastest when above 50% wear, then their pace drops once they get worn. Also, SS shouldn't overheat in Aus in 14C if you can manage push levels well. In Aus most people use SS and S.

Repeating this general info again: Hards are only faster than SS and S when 1) SS and S are worn, and/or 2) SS and S are not in optimal temps (in the black zone. Red means overheating, Blue means too cold). This is why in long stints and hotter weather, Hards perform well.

SS was 13% practice. Race was at 75%

I used SS for the last 9 laps and the other person used the Hards for the last 17 laps. However, my SS was faster than Softs that were being used.

All my point was that people should play the game for what it is and not be complaining that the game is unrealistic

The big question. Tyre Economy.

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1 TE is 9% wear SS.
50 TE is 7% wear SS.

Do you still run 11 laps same as 9% wear and be faster or do 14 laps because tyres have more health?

Good question!

I would also add that if we did the extra 3 laps because we have more health, we would have also been carrying extra weight for 9 of the 14 laps so this would have reduced our time, so I wonder which is actually better?

Well now you see fuel is lower also!

2.17 per lap with 1 FE, 11 laps 23.87L
1.44 per lap with 81 FE, 11 laps 15.84L

Exactly, so it's not just as easy as saying one particular tyre should not work as there are other factors to consider.

Under the conditions I have just said, the car overall is 1.763 seconds faster now than a beginners car with 1 for Tyre & Fuel Economy using the same Strategy. Like I always tell new players just keep doing what you always have been doing and you will be fine :D

Yeah that would be much faster given those big differences you mentioned. I'm not quite getting your point though, perhaps it's because it's gone 6am and I haven't been to sleep just yet haha

There is no point, I just killing time. Just dont overuse SS & S tyres, more grip per lap is faster than more laps.

Best car of the league doesn't mean you are the best at Tire and Fuel economy.So who has the best Tire and Fuel Economy?Because fuel and tyre life matters as well

Me has the best car :P
I dont work on Cooling, Reliability, Braking or Tyre Economy. I cant afford to I only have 2 design points a race.

But we have to also compensate time lost for a pitstop which is about 12-14secs lost. So we need to make sure that our stint on faster tyres but lower amiunt of laps will be quicker than the time spent in the pit as we will have 1 more pit stop than our opponent. It makes it very strategic to say the least.

Terrible idea.During your outlaps,you will have more fuel than other cars meaning you will be slower but faster only with SS or S.Plus,one stop in the game costs about 20-22 seconds depending on the pitlane length AND the SS can't make up for 22 seconds lost in the pit AND you can't expect other managers to have DRS from backmarkers or KERS left.So the best option is to stick with the cars,overcut him(if you're in the optimal range) and get out ahead of him

It is not a bad idea in the right conditions and track to have softer tyres and more stops when it gives you good pace, and when you are able to put your cars in the right positions. 7 stops all SS is one of the winning strats in Eur iGP 100% distance, for example.

The risk with the overcut is how much time you lose initially when you have heavier fuel than the others, worse if those running softer tires are able to run in optimal temps and above 50% wear for a long period of time, as when both soft & hard tires are in optimal temps and wear, softs are usually faster, and soft tire runners usually run with lighter fuel compared to hard tire runners. If you lose too much time over your long stint, even your overcut will not be able to help you catch up. And maybe you may burn too much KERS early on to stay in the DRS train in a heavier car with harder tyres.

So both of these general ideas of strategy: (1) softer tyres & more stops/shorter stints for more quick pace but in narrower windows (once softer tires reach below 50% wear, pace will gradually drop, how dramatic it'll be depends on conditions), & (2) harders tires & less stops/longer stints for relatively more even pace but heavier for much longer (harder tires are the definite best tire in hot conditions when softer tires overheat easily though), have its own benefits & costs, and the track & track conditions also play a big factor into how well each strategy may work for you.

If you really get familiar with each of the tracks, you'll find they all have different characteristics (ease in following cars to get DRS/a DRS train forming, ease/difficulty in getting tire temps, length of DRS straight & strength of DRS effect, length of pit lane relative to track, etc.) that will factor into which strategies and in-race tactics would be most suitable for you. The strategies other managers use, their skill, & how full your league is are other big factors.

I wrote out a long reply to Duc Anh but some reason it did not post, but Boomer Kid covered all what I had to say plus more. Good post Boomer.

So it's a 50/50 chance