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ADVANCE NOTICE: Car development & Setup changes - coming soon

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That’s awesome news. But I am still wondering why there is such a disastrous difference when joining a new leauge. I just joined a leauge that I was in last season(must have joined another by accident.) with only 5 races in I have less then ten on many of my research values. And I was only givin 12 design points. I get 17 points a race if I was in the leauge. I know it is what it is. But I think this should change. 

Thanks. Josh Butler. 

Hello everyone! Forgive my English, if I am not clear, tell me and I will try to explain the concepts better.
With the new update, will the maximum value of the skills remain the current one (50)? If so, in leagues with more than 20 races you will not need to use a good CD.
I think the maximum value should change based on the number of races in the league, from a minimum of 50 in leagues to 15 races to a maximum of 75 in leagues with 22 races so as to maintain a gap between those who use more CDs and those who don't.

Good job everyone.

I think Dome's request is about maximum starting value, the maximum design at the first race of the championship. If not I say it now.
If the maximum starting value is 50 in elite, exactly right now, if you do 20 races (with the actual system) with a CD Cooling-Reliability you get a car 50-50-50-50-50-50-25-50. The same if you use Acceleration-Reliability. There is no advantage in having a better CD. 




To have all the PROs that you said it is sufficient to do the first of the two things, that is increasing the design cap. If you don't halve the importance of design points(as also Johnny said) we have a more competitive game with all the PROs, but the randomness of the system doesn't become more important (we would have the same as now). Maybe you have a good reason to halve the performance gap but, personally, I don't see it. 

I was referring to this Joao ...... I think that the use of several CDs must remain an important point in car development. if I understand correctly it is as if the reset at the beginning of the season has been halved .....

Consideration n.1 - If the survey generically asks: "Do you want to increase the skill development limit" is it normal for the "yes" to win, because we all want to be more free to develop the car. It seems logical to me. If instead you had asked "do you want to increase the maximum of the skills to 200, remodeling the current 100 and halving the effectiveness of the development" (as will happen soon), it is clear that the vote would have been "NO".
To make democracy work, we must correctly inform those who vote, whether we talk about a game or talk about something else.

Consideration n. 2 - If you start the cars all the same, halve the effectiveness of the development, and then to complete development the cars are all the same, at this point we can completely remove the development from the game.

Consideration n. 3 - I would advise not to waste time changing the car setup. This is not the way to increase the difficulty of the game.

Consideration n. 4 - Wouldn't it have been much easier to decrease the DP points at the start of the season, leaving the limit for elite at 100? You would get all the benefits you say you want to achieve, without the disadvantages mentioned above.

If at the beginning of the season the car is the same for everyone it would mean that it is completely useless to use more CDs in the previous season.

Therefore aspect of strategy would be less.
I do not think it very sensible to start all with the same car.
I think this update makes the game worse than it is now

Supposing the starting reset working exactly as now.
With 15-16-17-18-19 races you can start with an advantage, bigger if 15, smaller if 19. With 20,21,22 etc it's all 50 except the weakness(no advantage considering my previous example).  It's difficult for me to understand why having an advantage from R1 is a "problem" (because only few people requested it) with 20+ races but it's not for 15-19 races (unless you do some modifications). 
I mean, if you think most people are happy to start with no advantages, why is it possible to have them with 15-19 races? (As said above, unless you are going to modify it)

It is a very good point raised in light of the option of 15 to 22 races per calendar season. This can be corrected, quite easily, if CDs are given percentage values, based on how often they were used during the past season.



Some good points raised. Some not.

It has already been mentioned by many players in many prior threads that they are seeking an extra challenge, and hence skill to play more of a role. With a 200 pts cap (in Elite), it allow continuous car development throughout the season, even in a 22 race calendar.

This is where 'consideration 4' fails. Even if we start on 20 pts as a cap, a) Cars will start a lot closer, and therefore fails in the past season car development skill (which is very important as many players have already mentioned) but b) More importantly, managers would still hit maximum cars stats after 10.8 races (with a Level 20 account, gaining 10 DP per race)

That would mean for a 22 race season, the 2nd half of season, you would get the 'lottery' qualifyings (where you are either P3 or P28..luck effectively the determining factor in very competitive championships)

Of course with a 200 pts cap, effective development is halved. There is a simply fix: double the time gains per design point (keep the same gain per design point, without scaling)

That way, the effective time gains would be exactly the same as currently, only now with 2 different scales.

As it stands 100,100,100,100 is -1.600s/lap faster than 50,50,50,50 (roughly 0.008s per point) 20 pts would therefore give -0.160s/lap

For the new 200,200,200,200 from 50,50,50,50 scale, instead of also scaling the car performance gain (effectively 1 pt = 0.004s), keep the gain at 0.008s per point, and you get the exact same divergence in car development.

This is where car set up comes in. With continuous in-season car development, the higher level team will simply just keep increasing the performance gap, with no/little hope for smaller teams to catch up.

With a different car set up option, utilising a range of car set ups, with an ideal somewhere in the 'Good Set-Up) range, it would give those teams, and others who want a further challenge, the chance to make up the gap, when fine tuning their car set up.

This is also why increased Supplier effects are also needed. Scaled to tier of course! (I keep mainly thinking of Elite only! :D)

I understand the need to keep developing the game, but I don't see the need to close the gap between say level 14/15 teams to level 20 teams, other than financial on your side by keeping members happy. Why did I bother to spend a great deal of time and money getting to level 20 only to make the game easier for lower level teams. I and others had to do the hard miles racing to the back or middle of the grid to earn the right to compete. What is the point now of trying to get above level 14/15. I may have understood this, but this is how it reads to me.

Yes, the ideal configuration should be "random" each season to force managers to find it for themselves. And it should be the same for all drivers... whatever their level.

This ideal configuration should vary by only a few points from one season to the next in order to remain realistic compared to the circuit (approximately -5/+5 compared to the current ideal configuration).

For example for Monaco :
Height : between 17 and 27
Wings level : between 15 and 25

For example for Italy :
Height : between 7 and 17
Wings level : between 1 and 6

And of course… if the ideal configuration is not found, the performance on the track will be very reduced and the fuel consumption and tire wear data will be different !!!  The further we are from the ideal configuration, the more we will be penalized !

In 5 qualifying rounds, we can find it and test it on the tires we will use in racing... or not... which can make the difference during the race !

For you developers of iGP, it would therefore be necessary to change the ideal configuration of all circuits every 2 weeks ... like that, they would be different for each new season.

Is this achievable ??

The changes will give high level teams an advantage not low level. Low level teams are competitive at the first race and towards the end of the season when the big 4 and fuel are on an equal level. During mid season low level teams are always 1 step behind because of the lower amount of Dp,  this effect will last longer with the new system .