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LIVE: Tyre Wear Update

Just ran a 50% distance race, live, from a side account.





HARD tyres did seem to lose around +2.0s to +2.5s, compared to before.

Still easily a 1 stop race, H-H

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Nice job Jack, I've been hoping for a long time that you start working on rebalancing tires
I will follow the developments ...

Have one question. There was Spain GP in our league. And here i noticed, that Hard, Medium and Soft have equal speed with equal fuel amount. So, how is it possible? Don't you think, that it is wrong?

But apart from scaling, the temperature still makes a tyre better or worse, doesn't it?

Or you have deactivated it.? 

It would be better to make the rule that two tyre compounds are compulsory for each race. Otherwise there is hardly any scope for tyre strategy. Except on two or three tracks, otherwise only hard tyres are the best. This hard tyre strategy is rather boring.

I dont understand???you said that the hard tire wear more.but i see that:before in australi ss wear is 13%.now is 9%. And hard was 4% now is 2%.what do you mean with wear more???

I find it hard sometimes to set my car on the correct tyres for the race, I’m still not sure how to read the track on tyres, some time it say tyre wear is long and some time it saying short

When it's long David, it means it has a high wear rate and obviously when it's short it would mean the tyre wear is minimal.

Hi Jack. As part of this big tyre review, will you be looking at temperature working range?

It seems to me that tyre wear is largely not the main issue, its being able to use Softs or SS and be able to push on them unless the track temp is less than 15C or thereabouts (bar Monaco etc etc). Last night in my 100% league in Germany, at 20.30 it was 14C. I went with an all Soft strategy but I couldn't go above PL2 without them overheating and then I had little option to cool them down. Most of the tracks run at 20C and above, I wouldn't even consider running Softs, they instantly overheat and therefore are slow.

So it seems like maybe the base working range for each tyre needs to dramatically increase - or perhaps its matched to the timezone you play from - so that you can use the softer tyres at at least PL3 and they don't overheat. 

In response to some of the feedback already recieved, I hope you're taking it all with a massive pinch of salt; its all based on biased personal experience and not as a result of real testing, a repeating situation against known, equal factors. Managers in leagues are different levels, they're live, their absent, the cars are different, the drivers are different, their live push strategies and fuel levels are all different, DRS, Kers being used at different times....please make adjustments from real, evenly-weighted data!

I think Pete has some good points (especially agree in regard to the feedback). There should be times where Hards are the clear best tire, due to the temperature range. I think until now Hards have been too effective at cold temperatures, not that they are too effective in general.

With that said, I wonder if we establish a healthy balance now, if that will still be the case 3-4 months from now when we are in the middle of winter. It makes sense to me tire performance naturally differs throughout the year from changing temps.

(I plan to post again tonight after I have feedback from my league's race regarding the current changes).

hi Jack
i know as i write this im thinking myself they just cant win but the new update on tyres has just made the faster teams in the league stronger and faster 
i now feel whats the point in trying to compete as no matter what strategy i pick its still not going to be good enough 
i know its only been the first race so will give it to the end of the season

thanks andy

We have just finish a 100% race at germany

I think the ss is a little to fast.
Soft is good
Medium is to slow
Hard is to slow.

Dear Jack, I think that this revolution is a really good idea to change something in the game, but i can want propose you to eliminate this medium tyre... or better: Make the medium tyres like the actual hard tyres and implant a new tyre: the Ultrasoft.

I also would propose a greater thermal resistance for all tyres.... We drive often in very defensive pace... and isn't really good... we want more aggressive drive, this would allow to use right tyres in right circuits.

Hi Jack,

And yes I'm of the league as Andy Higgins. Well I've to say maybe supers will be dominant from now on for those who manage it well and yes cars are stronger and faster. Just have look at my league's elite Group. 
We're a competitive high level 16 managers league. You can check today's race in Singapore. Supers were the best tyres. Hards were nowhere and ss/s/ss/ss also didn't work. It's basically supers all the way.

But thanks for updating something. I hope this will improve. And please give a reply if you have any suggestions regarding the tyres after having a look at today's race.

Thanks 
Tejas

I don't like that change. I can't see the real reason to do that change, i don't share your opinion when you say that everyone is always the hard tyres, It depends on t'he wheater and the temperature

Agreed.  Hard tyres should be slower and SS/Softs should be able to be ran at neutral push rate without massively over heating but at the same time wear a lot quicker than hards ... thus more pit stops.

The problem with other tyres is they run to hot so it’s often pointless using them. 
Monico is the only track to use something different maybe have more tracks where running hard and mediums isn’t the optimum tyres and makes you use the softer tyres

One thing i think would make things better if you got rid of refueling what i dont get is why we have refueling with the tyres from after refueling was banned

Hi, when will 5-6 pit stops be introduced instead of 4 in the pre-race strategy options?