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medal 5238
1 year 210 days ago (Last edited by ʑ ɛ ƙ ƙ ɛ ყ 1 year 210 days ago)
A little warning would’ve been nice

Also please double check my token history. Iirc I’m pretty sure I didn’t gain any tokens from this
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medal 5088
1 year 210 days ago

Jack
Ken

Archie here. Are the affected accounts only immediately after the update because this account just became a manufacturer a week ago and 10 tokens + cash was definitely deducted. I remember because I had to buy more for the parts needed.

Now I've been debited an extra 20.


At some point this evening I will review your Token history and get back to you. We're happy to do this in each case someone wants it looked in to.


I’d also like to have my case reviewed.

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medal 5764
1 year 210 days ago
Dear mods. 
I remember very well what happened when I hit that button back at the time. Nothing did. That's why I remember so well. I wasn't sure if tokens and money were deducted so I was reluctant to hit it again. Still no engine manufacturer.
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medal 5195
1 year 210 days ago
I think most of us understand that tokens are probably a main way IGP generates revenue, but this seems so petty.
10 tokens is about $1. So you guys lost out on the possibility of about $650 of revenue. Instead of eating it, you decided to seriously irritate your clients.

I understand the comments about fairness. If you had discovered the error in a timely manner and made adjustments you would not be in this situation. You didn’t, and decided to move in a way that at this point may cost more $$ in the long term then any argument of fairness or short term gain will ever give you.

It been said multiple times already, but this far out, most are not in a position to know if anything is accurate or not and sitting on this side feels slightly violating. Not the way you want clients describing your product.

For what? To add fairness because someone accidentally got 3 races worth of free tokens a month ago?

I think you guys made an error in the way this was handled.

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medal 5000
1 year 210 days ago

José
Mark

You should have just fixed the bug and moved on. All you've done is annoyed a load of people.


Hey Mark,

Thanks a lot for your feedback. Don’t you find unfair for those who correctly paid the price?




We can see some managers wrote here that they lost 20 tokens today with with your "fair" move but they are not even manufacturer. Also, some managers wrote that they are sure they lost 10 tokens instead of gaining 10 tokens now it means they lost 30 tokens in total. Are you sure your system works correctly? Can't the system be wrong to see that we gained tokens? 
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medal 4897
1 year 210 days ago
I ALSO WANT TO VIEW MY FULL TOKEN HISTORY AND NOT THE TWO LINE TRANSACTIONS TYPED BY YOU GUYS.
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medal 5987
1 year 210 days ago
So i've lost 40 tokens although I thought it only gave 10 tokens. Could I have the full transaction history for when the engine manufacturer purchase was made.
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medal 5256
1 year 210 days ago
Hello guys, 

While 20 tokens were cut from everyone for engine production, they took 40 tokens from me. Does anyone have this problem and i really want İt to fix İt. 
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medal 5304 SUPPORT AGENT
1 year 210 days ago
Hello,

Jack explained it a few pages ago.

"We have a database record of everyone who received +10 tokens, some received it twice, meaning you would have received +20 Tokens when becoming an engine manufacturer.

We do understand the frustration and people saying they made decisions expecting to have tokens, but the reality is anyone affected by this had the ability to make decisions others couldn't also, by receiving +10 tokens instead of having them deducted (leaving them with +20 more than those who had them deducted each time this occurred).

If it was anything other than tokens or about stats in the game obviously everyone would welcome correcting an error, but not with Tokens. We also realise it will be confusing coming so far after the update. The reason is it was only discovered this week. We can export anyone's full token history if they want to see the transactions in context and dispute them or if they think the incorrect amount has been deducted."
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medal 5238
1 year 210 days ago

Ovih
Hello,

Jack explained it a few pages ago.

"We have a database record of everyone who received +10 tokens, some received it twice, meaning you would have received +20 Tokens when becoming an engine manufacturer.

We do understand the frustration and people saying they made decisions expecting to have tokens, but the reality is anyone affected by this had the ability to make decisions others couldn't also, by receiving +10 tokens instead of having them deducted (leaving them with +20 more than those who had them deducted each time this occurred).

If it was anything other than tokens or about stats in the game obviously everyone would welcome correcting an error, but not with Tokens. We also realise it will be confusing coming so far after the update. The reason is it was only discovered this week. We can export anyone's full token history if they want to see the transactions in context and dispute them or if they think the incorrect amount has been deducted."


I understand and saw that, I just want to see my token history. I am very certain I did not gain any unfair advantage from becoming a manufacturer 

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medal 5010
1 year 210 days ago

Ovih
Hello,

Jack explained it a few pages ago.

"We have a database record of everyone who received +10 tokens, some received it twice, meaning you would have received +20 Tokens when becoming an engine manufacturer.

We do understand the frustration and people saying they made decisions expecting to have tokens, but the reality is anyone affected by this had the ability to make decisions others couldn't also, by receiving +10 tokens instead of having them deducted (leaving them with +20 more than those who had them deducted each time this occurred).

If it was anything other than tokens or about stats in the game obviously everyone would welcome correcting an error, but not with Tokens. We also realise it will be confusing coming so far after the update. The reason is it was only discovered this week. We can export anyone's full token history if they want to see the transactions in context and dispute them or if they think the incorrect amount has been deducted."

For the third time (!!): why I received 2 mails and 40 tokens in less than yesterday?
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medal 5020
1 year 210 days ago

Jack
Ken

Archie here. Are the affected accounts only immediately after the update because this account just became a manufacturer a week ago and 10 tokens + cash was definitely deducted. I remember because I had to buy more for the parts needed.

Now I've been debited an extra 20.


At some point this evening I will review your Token history and get back to you. We're happy to do this in each case someone wants it looked in to.



I would like mine reviewed. When the engines came out, i had 100 mil taken out. 10 tokens taken out and said i was an engine manufacterer. I ckicked again and lost another 10 tokens...but not 100 million coin. This was fixed by giving me back the 100 million. The funny thing is you guys new this...and gave token rewards for the issue. So i now you take em back. I would like to see my history asap. 
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medal 5000
1 year 210 days ago
I don't want my previous message buried or thought to be answered, it isn't. I am not an engine manufacturer and have had tokens removed. Jack has responded earlier that a previous case like this is not expected. Mine also needs to be explained or my tokens returned please. 
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medal 5987
1 year 210 days ago
If people received 20 extra tokens and didn't pay for the 10 cost for the engine manufacturing wouldn't that only need to be 30 taken off and not 40?
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medal 5000
1 year 210 days ago
This has been handled very poorly. If it’s your error you might as well have just let them keep the tokens if nobody noticed…
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medal 5304 SUPPORT AGENT
1 year 210 days ago
Hello,

Here you have:

ʑ ɛ ƙ ƙ ɛ ყ

Type              Race ID      Before         +/-     After         Created
manufacture      0              79            -20       59           22 Apr 2023, 00:31
manufacture      0              51             10       61           04 Feb 2023, 15:40

Ma FO

Type              Race ID      Before         +/-     After         Created
manufacture      0              1082         -20     1062         22 Apr 2023, 00:31
manufacture      0              1102         -20     1082         22 Apr 2023, 00:31
manufacture      0              1151          10     1161         30 Jan 2023, 19:21
manufacture      0              1141          10     1151         30 Jan 2023, 19:14

Brandon Ferguson

Type              Race ID      Before         +/-     After         Created
manufacture      0              52             -20     32            22 Apr 2023, 00:31
manufacture      0              72             -20     52            22 Apr 2023, 00:31

manufacture      0              140            10     150           30 Jan 2023, 22:21
manufacture      0              130            10     140           30 Jan 2023, 19:14
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medal 5020
1 year 210 days ago
Correction. I have 40 tokens stolen from my account. Engines 100 mil...10 tokens. Had intial launch issue. Tokens an coin came out correctly later that 1st week of launch. But when you clicked....to be a engine builder I was double dipped of cash and coin. Then you rewarded us tokens as for that hiccup. My money was corrected an tokens properly as well. So i paid my 100 mil and 10 tokens. But apparently its 40 tokens to be a manufacterer now. You can see our token history and we cant. 
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medal 5195
1 year 210 days ago (Last edited by Vincent Tramontana 1 year 210 days ago)
Ovih,
I have no doubt. And I have found that the support team to be honest and fair.

I am telling you that for most players, seeing that message will be more off putting then any notion of fair play. 

The bug should have been fixed, maybe notice given, and you should have moved on. This is now a self inflicted wound that need not have occurred.


And now confusion is being added

Look at both Brandon and Ma’s accounts.
They were “accidentally” given 10 tokens twice, probably because it did not work the first time so they tried again.
You then deducted 20 twice. But that math is faulty.
They should both end up -10 in the four transactions but have ended up -20. 
They can not be an engine manufacturer twice.
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medal 5238
1 year 210 days ago

Ovih
Hello,

Here you have:

ʑ ɛ ƙ ƙ ɛ ყ

Type              Race ID      Before         +/-     After         Created
manufacture      0              79            -20       59           22 Apr 2023, 00:31
manufacture      0              51             10       61           04 Feb 2023, 15:40

Ma FO

Type              Race ID      Before         +/-     After         Created
manufacture      0              1082         -20     1062         22 Apr 2023, 00:31
manufacture      0              1102         -20     1082         22 Apr 2023, 00:31
manufacture      0              1151          10     1161         30 Jan 2023, 19:21
manufacture      0              1141          10     1151         30 Jan 2023, 19:14

Brandon Ferguson

Type              Race ID      Before         +/-     After         Created
manufacture      0              52             -20     32            22 Apr 2023, 00:31
manufacture      0              72             -20     52            22 Apr 2023, 00:31

manufacture      0              140            10     150           30 Jan 2023, 22:21
manufacture      0              130            10     140           30 Jan 2023, 19:14


Thank you, however I have do have one more question if you don’t mind. How did this all go unnoticed? Especially with people needing to buy this option twice in some cases
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medal 5020
1 year 210 days ago
Why did i lose 40 coins though?  You see i had the 10 and 10. But take 40????? Wake up.......
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