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Honestly, i don't know if the changes are good or not. I'm having worst results, thats true.
In today's  race(100%) i thought there were to many overtakings. To easy to overtake. Don't know if anyone else thinks like me.

SS didn't work at all for me, 2 laps in and my other driver was faster on S. The S however were brilliant for me, In a race where Unusually 1 stop with H, I 2 stopped with S and managed to win in a very competitive league.

Today we raced hungary 23c 100% race

I think we coming closer that all tyres work.
Ss/s/m are all used today. Only hard was not used.
Different strategies were used today.
2 stop soft, 3 stop ss/s/s/s, m/m/m/s, 4 stop ss, 3stop ss.
All these strategies ended in top 10.

Thanks Jack for the good work.

I like the update. I’m in a 100% league, now the strategy counts a lot. If one of us makes a bad tyres choice, is finished. 

However, one can start a race with a bad tyres choice and change the strategy during the race by seeing what the other pilots are doing, and he/she can finish the race in the top positions.

The speed of the tyres are only noticeable in a full-length race (100%) There, one can make a considerable difference with a super soft over a hard tyres. There are circuits in which one loses many seconds changing tyres, so it is when one considers if to run about 12 laps with SS or 20 with H.

I play this about 3 years now, I like it very. 
Keep improving. Thank you for the effort. 
Regards. 

My personal opinion  from 1 50% race is H is unusable now.I managed to do well because i have one of the top 3 top 5 cars but if oyu see were i started compare to all lower point players you get the idea.S is ok M was at some cases to close or even faster then S.Like i previusly guessed M are to fast and a bit less durable i think.There seem to was an issue about strategie or fuell but i need to double check tommorow.This my personal oppinion and not of my leagues.

We just raced in Belgium, 50% distance at 15°C.

It's the track with the highest tyre wear in the whole calendar. And FOUR completely different strategies managed to finish in the Top10 and scored points.

The winner used a M/M strategy and so the 2nd.

3rd and 4th my drivers just 2 seconds behind the winner and I used a S/M strategy for both cars.

S/H strategy finished 5th, 6 seconds behind the winner.

And a SS/S/S strategy finished 9th, just 7 seconds behind the winner.

It was the first race since this last update, so more races and more testing are needed, but for now my personal feedback is positive.

We had a 100% race in Brazil. I achieved my first 1-2 in Elite :).

I think the tyre update implemented today was definitely a step in the right direction. My winning driver did SS S S S, and my 2nd place did S S S S. SS and S seemed to have very similar pace, with M and H a bit slower but not too far behind. One championship contender did M M M M and he finished 10 seconds away from the winner in 10th place, which wouldn't have been possible before. The cool temperature (16 C) definitely favored softer compounds, but I think on a hotter day M and H might prove their worth.

Tomorrow we'll race in Abu Dhabi, so we'll see whether M and H are also viable. If they are, then we can say that the current balance is mostly good!

an update from me, i actually missed my race (DOH), but the strategy i set at monaco (S/S/S) worked so/so, i started low down the grid (9th), i assume because the others used SS to start, this caused me to lose a lot of time at the start (my mistake), and also my push level may have been set wrongly for the whole race, but 2 stopping, i made my way to 7th, before rain hit and changed the race completely, i finished 6th while not there, and i didnt even set up for rain so that may have comprimised my finish to my strategy. (i finished 1 lap down, but so did everyone up to 3rd place i think.)

Early days, but not impressed with the tyre update, it doesn't suit 100% race distance. Not much point in hards or even mediums now. It seems you have gone too far the other way. 3 stops on ss at Brazil is not right. 

Agree with Martin 3 stop ss in Brazil was crazy...also there wasn't if any difference between ss and s on lap times etc....and hards actually weren't far off. As it stands most races at 100% will be a 3 stop Ss which really sucks the fun out....its the same as hard races that were unfortunately. Yes medium and hard as it is serve no purpose except for using in the tyre walls  
I think personally the SS and s should have been left alone and hard turned down and more emphasis on fuel load and keeping thd tyres at optimum temp

Jack  ---- Nice  !!!! 

I was critical in the opinions above for the races that I had previously run but I have to admit that the one we are running now, you managed to balance the 4 tires in it with 26 degrees and more realistically and with gameplay. So I feel obliged to recognize the effort now and the improvement and to congratulate. I am critical because it is my great addiction today that game I love! But I know now that I have noticed considerable improvement and I congratulate you. Thank you

A decent spread of strategies in 100% Spa race last night, I think about 15C at 2030 UK time.

Winner was S-S-S-S, 2nd & 3rd was SS-S-S-S with the next few places SS-SS-SS-SS-SS, covered by about 9 seconds at the end. SS were PL1 throughout but was able to push for half a lap or so get into or stay in DRS range & they cooled enough over the next lap or two to make it viable. I presume Softs were at about PL2.

The Softs kept up with the SS at the start even though they had extra fuel for the one less stop but in this example I think only because he got himself in a train & the SS cars were not in clean air to get a break. That Softs car went on to win. Maybe 4 stops on SS vs 3 stops on Softs were only close because of the short Spa pit but I think this is a good balance between strategies - the winner on Softs was a higher level team with a higher level driver than the rest of the top 6 so that probably helped.

I think it will take at least a whole season for us all to really get our heads round this and going into winter will further muddy the water after a long hot summer. I was on the wrong side of the strategy last night but I was beaten by a better driver in a better team...but it was still close.

A lot of the gripe seems to be coming from the people on top who, from either luck of another driver nailing a new strategy or bad luck of picking a new strategy themselves that didn't work, is now suddenly getting beat in the last couple of races. Cream rises to the top, if you're that good then you'll get your head around the new changes quickly and be winning again. If not, maybe you weren't that good in the first place & it was too easy before.  

Change is good but after change there needs to be some stability to get used to the new norm. F1 does it for real every 4 or 5 seasons, if theres a big change here every 20 seasons then we're doing not bad!

To mirror Jason, we raced in Brazil last night, 100% race.


2nd place driver pitted with approx 16/17 laps to go and came out on softs.
I pitted from 1st with 12 laps to go and came out on SS.

At this point we are carrying roughly the same fuel, and 2nd place driver has 5 lap old softs. We matched laps times till the end.

There was zero advantage to the SS even for the first few laps.

I think in slowing down the SS you make have taken away any early advantage to be gained from using them. This is only based on one race however and with Adu Dhabi in the 30's I doubt I will get to find out any more info on this till next season.

Still good to see the changes though. I still think this should be a kind of on going "fluid" situation of changing up the tires to liven up the races.

Thanks Jack!

Agree with you but yesterday in brazil (16/17 degree) I used SS and played with PL. last changes make it possible (not same H of course but not PL0 all race long). Today I will test Abu dhabi.

There's a really funny, ironic subplot to this whole tyres thing.

In real F1, the drivers and teams ask for super grippy soft tyres, it'll mean they'll go faster, there will be more pitstops which will help with more passing, spice up the racing, make it more of a show.

Then after 4 or 5 seasons they'll say the tyres degrade too much, they want harder tyres so they can push harder for longer. They get them and they can push but theres now only 1 stop per race and thats apparently boring. 

So they ask for grippy tyres and more stops but they degrade too much so they ask for harder tyres and it goes round and round and round....

The same thing is happening right here right now in iGP too.

Very true Pete....I think for us its finding that balance between all of those things you mentioned...SS clearly needs to be the quickest tyre and it isnt. Jamie's example having watched it happen myself proves that...and Im 100% the data that is being collected by the team will also prove that. I think all we really ask for is clear definition of the advantages all the tyres have...weighing up the pros/cons of using a particular compound...which then will make people yes different strats and create an exciting race....Yes in time there is very likely to be the "go to" strategy for all races but thats just how it is....

Also can I concur that the team are doing a great job...I never experienced any game app  that has been really in touch with the community and does actually implement things that the users want...keep it up IGP

Shaun, I don't understand how folk can say the SS isn't quicker than the Soft - it IS quicker, you've just got to look at practice and quali times to see that it is! 

Over one lap that is.

It's a quali tyre. We're doing the same thing as real F1 is doing, pushing the least push-able tyre into doing something it isn't designed to do and then being frustrated its not doing what we want it to do. 

Its the usual triangle equation; if you want a fast tyre, it will wear quickly and overheat. If you want a tyre that doesn't wear, it will be slow and cold. If you want a tyre that stays at temperature, it will be an average speed and an average wear. Pick one pro attribute and deal with the rest.

SS = quali tyre/short opening stint tyre
S/M = normal race tyres depending on track wear rate, temp and car development
H = extreme heat/wear rate tyre

Sounds like a great balance to me.

I ran in China 26C last night in a very 100% competitive league and I got some observations: all tires compounds were used, but those who used SS and S got better positions. This track has a high tires wear but softs supported well. In our league we have to use two different compounds on dry races, so we can test all tires. One thing I didn't like is we had to use super conservative push level for both tires compounds, even with soft, so we were not able to push harder to get the car in front because the tires overheated. 
You guys are doing a fantastic job on trying balance tires performance, but for 100% races I think there are many things to fix yet

We are talking about race lap. Different tyres different PL in race. With the right PL for keep tyres in right temp the SS and S in Brazil with 16/17 degree have the same lap times. Of course we will test it more in the next races..