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Advanced Strategy in a nutshell

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5000
2 years 351 days ago

Simone 
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=54186263&tab=race

Now we have another crazy race... 
Rains was 3.2mm but it  stopped before qualify.
It arrivet at 0mm at lap 12 -13 
Rains begins at laps 62

My driver Peterson used "hidden option". It works..but it was a disaster because rains arrived few minutes later...

I TYRE were vey fast for all the race that Peterson (with a lot of fuel) was first for a lot of time.

Please check drivers Bangarang and  Bannock: 
They have advanced  2 in this way: S after 4 and S after 3 laps.
They changed tyres according to advanced 2 but next stints was on I.... so advanced 2 work for them.

Check now Peterson , clyde and Hunt
Peterson had advanced 2 : S after 20 laps. It doens't work (in the last stint he made 2 pit stop because hidden option was active (his strategy was I  I I I S )
Clyde had advanced 2: S after 14 lasp. It doesn't work.
Hunt had advanced 2: S after 10 laps. It doesn work.

What happened????


The strange thing I didn’t understand, is why it stayed on inters with no rain? Surely the switch to dry tyres is then made, even if it does the inter stint but then pits again following the instruction of 3 laps with no rain. The fact it only worked once makes it almost useless.


Both drivers of mine (Bangarang & Bannock) as mentioned by Simone, the AS did work first stint, but then was ignored for the rest.

Maybe I’ve missed something obvious (although I have read through this thread and nothing strikes me as something I’ve missed), but AS just seems to be a bit pointless. I get the idea of pushing for managers to be active and live, and not wanting AS to be as useful that people don’t need to turn up (it isn’t anyway with PLs etc…) but I’m not sure AS does enough in its current state.

I’ve also got concerns with why cars were matching pace on inters vs Softs on 0.0mm but that’s for another thread and not here! ?
5004
2 years 351 days ago
My guess is that a server side code scans for each driver(all drivers from all races in that moment) if a strategy change is needed. If your driver's strategy is considered good otherwise you are unlucky and the strategy does not change.

I already exposed my idea to improve this but I think iGP devs have other priorities or they will leave the advanced strategy as is in order to force players to follow live races.
5923
2 years 351 days ago
Imo the AS is just to aid those who can't be online for specific reasons. The game is meant to be live play so I do not think this is a priority for the devs nor should it be with the ton of other important things that need to be looked at.

It's the cards offline players have been dealt, it's either we take it or leave it and go play live.
5090
2 years 351 days ago
Judging by what has happened in offline races this season for some drivers, including myself. I’m of the opinion that AS 2 is busted.

The AS 2 only seems to work at your next scheduled pit stop, for a few others it seems to start immediately and for those really unlucky it never seems to activate even when different managers use the same strategy.

I’m not sure the devs know how it works now either.  

As has been mentioned with all the other issues needing fixing, plus the developers preferred roadpath I don’t see it ever being a high enough priority to warrant attention.
5000
2 years 350 days ago

M
Judging by what has happened in offline races this season for some drivers, including myself. I’m of the opinion that AS 2 is busted.

The AS 2 only seems to work at your next scheduled pit stop, for a few others it seems to start immediately and for those really unlucky it never seems to activate even when different managers use the same strategy.

I’m not sure the devs know how it works now either.  

As has been mentioned with all the other issues needing fixing, plus the developers preferred roadpath I don’t see it ever being a high enough priority to warrant attention.


In previous post , you can find also a problem linked to a advanced 3 that I called "hidden ".

This hidden option is now rare after a past update,but it still works if you make basic strategy mixing wet tyre with dry tyres ( example : I S S S)
 


5000
2 years 330 days ago (Last edited by Gustavo Heiden 2 years 328 days ago)
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=54924727&tab=race

it is a race of an offline championship, so no one was in the live.

in this race advanced made big joke to 3 drivers:
rain was less that 3 mm before beginning qualify and reached 3mm during qualifications:
only 3 drivers made qualify with W, and other with I, but who had advanced activated,start the race with W.
So it means that 3 drivers qualified with W was terribly penalized in qualification.

I don't understand which is the order of qualifications for drivers, or if it is random, however I think that it should be reasonable stop updating weather during qualification.
5084 Super Mod
2 years 328 days ago
This is a very good example that the weather is changing during qualifying period. Thanks for sharing.
5009
2 years 327 days ago
I think I was very lucky to watch it..even if i was not so lucky in the race..?
5591
2 years 327 days ago
Merci ?? 
5090
2 years 313 days ago (Last edited by Skid Solo 2 years 313 days ago)
Just done an offline race with S13 S13 S13 S9.  It rained before qualifying so qualified and started race on inters.

It stopped raining after qualifying and auto pitted at end of lap 1 and changed to soft.

My chosen strategy was 13 13 13 9, but the AS used 1 13 13 9 9 causing me to pit 3 laps before end and drop from 4th to 17th

Is this normal AS behaviour or am I misunderstanding something?  After rain stop I expected 1 13 13 13 9
5000
2 years 311 days ago

M
Just done an offline race with S13 S13 S13 S9.  It rained before qualifying so qualified and started race on inters.

It stopped raining after qualifying and auto pitted at end of lap 1 and changed to soft.

My chosen strategy was 13 13 13 9, but the AS used 1 13 13 9 9 causing me to pit 3 laps before end and drop from 4th to 17th

Is this normal AS behaviour or am I misunderstanding something?  After rain stop I expected 1 13 13 13 9



It is.normal.

He pitted at lap.one so, stint 1 of 13 laps was reduce to 1.. 
Every further stint non present in the basic strategy is like the last stint you set.

There could be a difference considering  fuel.
Foe example. If rain stopped one lap after your last stint of 13, the further  will be of 12... because you have already  enough fuel in your car.


5000
2 years 280 days ago
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=56334272&tab=race

From 0mm to 5mm during 75% distante... crazy but so funny  to watch!
5000
2 years 280 days ago
Gustavo
This is a very good example that the weather is changing during qualifying period. Thanks for sharing.


Considering  previous  race linked, are you able to tell me when rains begin and when it overcross 3mm? 
I already know the ansewer but, after a double check,  i found something that I never noticed...did you find it?
5084 Super Mod
2 years 279 days ago
Without knowing anyone's Advanced Strategy, I think rain began at lap 10. Some cars pitted for intermediate while others pitted for wet full.
In lap 14 some cars pit for wet full. Perhaps it changed to 2.0mm?
In lap 22 it probably went over 3.0mm, because some cars pitted for wet full.

I'd like to know why Fisichella pitted at lap 8. It looks like everyone waited until fuel to do their pitstops, meaning that Advanced Strategy didn't mess with the number of stints.

It's up to you to explain what happened =D
5000
2 years 278 days ago
Hello. GUSTAVO. Thank you for your answer.
You are near but not at 100%.
Rains began during lap 8, not 10! 
It looks that every drivers waited its programmed  pit stop to put I or Wet tyre.
However at lap 22 rains overcrossed 3.0mm and some drivers put wet tyre.. without waiting its programmed pit stop..

I suspected that there was something wrong in Advanced 1... don't you think?
 
5000
2 years 273 days ago
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=56379172&tab=race

it happened the same also in this race... put Intermedium only at programmed pit stop. 
I don't think that this is a bad idea... ;-)
5084 Super Mod
2 years 273 days ago
So, it was a mix of things. Cars waiting until next pitstop and cars not waiting. This is clearly an inconsistency that should be noted!

Or maybe we pay attention to the behaviour of Advenced option 1 when we choose 0mm. I suspect that cars will always wait until next pitstop to change the tyres.

What did happen at lap 14th? Was there a change to 2.0mm?

5000
2 years 272 days ago
I am Sorry , but I don’t understand in which race you asked about lap 14.
In the last (Russia) at lap 14 there weren’t 2mm ,but less.
I noticed that drivers wait with 0 and also 1mm in advanced 1 .
While he didn’t wait with 3mm...
I don’t know with 2 , 4 and 5.
However i am almost sure that it worked not in this way previously...  even if i prefer this Way to wait . 
5084 Super Mod
2 years 272 days ago
I was still replying about that crazy Turkish race
5000
2 years 272 days ago
No.. in Turkish at lap 14 Rain was between 1 and 2mm , but  not 2mm yet
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