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medal 5000
3 years 211 days ago

Gustavo
I read one of devs saying track is green for all cars (I don't think that has changed).


I've been looking at the FAQ again to see if there is something hidden there regarding qualifying and I found this in the Sporting Regulation 1.5-2:
"each driver gets one qualifying lap on a clear circuit"

Maybe it means clear track as no cars to cause dirty-air and not green track as you think/were told, so track evolution might be a factor when cars are running apart in the order. Just a distant shoot...
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medal 6792 Super Mod
3 years 211 days ago
That wouldn't explain those teams who always achieve exactly same qualifying time. I think that confirms the statement "green track for all cars".

For me there is something related to driver height, that's why I was testing same setup for taller and shorter drivers (but that didn't work).
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medal 5000
3 years 210 days ago (Last edited by dan ruglio 3 years 210 days ago)
Gustavo
That wouldn't explain those teams who always achieve exactly same qualifying time. I think that confirms the statement "green track for all cars".

For me there is something related to driver height, that's why I was testing same setup for taller and shorter drivers (but that didn't work).



not driver height for me. after swapping them the result is the same. is the first driver who is always slow in dry qualies. 

since my first post, the issues goes on every single day. my first car is always at the back and comes up fast because the car is faster than many of other drivers that qualy ahead of him. 

i had some race exceptions like today at canada. those exceptions should be mentioned but i am sure those are exceptions and nothing more. 

annoying. 
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medal 4750
3 years 210 days ago
Dan,  try finding another driver with same height, "equally trained" "fully trained" drivers with same height with equal setup should do an equal qualifying time, they do in "normal teams" anyway, be interesting test.
Similar experience would better for this test also as sometimes much higher exp 0:00.001-0:00.005 faster in Quali ive noticed but not big issue just put the higher exp in car 1 slot.
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medal 5000
3 years 207 days ago (Last edited by dan ruglio 3 years 207 days ago)
William
Dan,  try finding another driver with same height, "equally trained" "fully trained" drivers with same height with equal setup should do an equal qualifying time, they do in "normal teams" anyway, be interesting test.
Similar experience would better for this test also as sometimes much higher exp 0:00.001-0:00.005 faster in Quali ive noticed but not big issue just put the higher exp in car 1 slot.

Thanks for the answer William ;)

i'm sorry but... My driver Tinoco in the second car is 180cm and 7 in experience. The driver in the first car is 175cm and 17 exp.

Tinoco is always better in dry qualy. But if i swap them, it is the opposite. I've already tested. 

Height or Experience are not the issue here. And i'm thinking it's just one little change on an update. What is it? We don't know. What information do we have. 0.0    

That 'not big issue', on this league. means the first driver is qualifying 10 to 20 places behind ALMOST EVERY SINGLE RACE for a long time now. starts of 2020?  something like that i would say.  

This wasn't like that before. There is something different in this game qualifiying, i just want to know what is going on.

Any other clues?




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medal 4750
3 years 207 days ago
yes but this would prove more conclusively about the issue as if under circumstances i said above, your team should do equal lap times with the drivers being the same and if it still doesn't then its easier to show there is a problem. just find any driver that is equal in training and height to one of your other drivers to just show for couple of races.

i have a team that did have your problem i need to get it in a league and drivers with same height to test it if you don't try it.
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medal 5000
3 years 207 days ago
new driver, same result. Car 2 is faster.
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medal 5000
3 years 206 days ago

William
yes but this would prove more conclusively about the issue as if under circumstances i said above, your team should do equal lap times with the drivers being the same and if it still doesn't then its easier to show there is a problem. just find any driver that is equal in training and height to one of your other drivers to just show for couple of races.

i have a team that did have your problem i need to get it in a league and drivers with same height to test it if you don't try it.

Not needed. With all the examples we already have, it is clear is not height related or experience. 


Want to test, get a maxed driver with same height but one low one low on exp and one well experienced. (I already have) and the result is the same. The one I choose as first is the one that will be at the back.

Then two drivers with the same experience but different height (I already have)... Same result.

The issue is not there. Also tested with fuel and others things but this issue is like magic. No matter what I do, in 2019 I would have gotten same qualy times and now I'm not. 

Why the wet qualies are not affected could be another clue. 

Any dev's words? 


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medal 4750
3 years 206 days ago
have you tried 2 drivers with same height?

i know its a real issue (i didnt explain myself well) what im saying is if they dont fix it maybe getting 2 drivers with same height might, try it you never know, like i said drivers with equal height do the same identicle laptime where as different heights of drivers do  a completely different lap time to each other. (all fully trained)
But no bother. :)
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medal 6792 Super Mod
3 years 206 days ago
Once one of my drivers retire I'll generate two drivers (same height) to replace both cars.

That will be probably my last experiment in this area.
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medal 5000
3 years 206 days ago
anyway, if you get to same height, wouldnt be the two of them slower or faster? 

i think we need to know why is this happening. And then how to solve it ;)

I am using splited strats, you can try 2 drivers with the same height but the issue is still there and we dont know if it's on purpose or just a bug. 

;) 
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medal 6792 Super Mod
3 years 206 days ago
What I mean is that my drivers are quite old, one was created on 02/09/2019 and the other was created on 23/12/2018.
I hope that once I have two newly generated drivers, qualifying times can be closer, despite the fact that Richard already tried changing his drivers.
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medal 4845 Moderator
3 years 205 days ago

dan
anyway, if you get to same height, wouldnt be the two of them slower or faster? 

i think we need to know why is this happening. And then how to solve it ;)

I am using splited strats, you can try 2 drivers with the same height but the issue is still there and we dont know if it's on purpose or just a bug. 

;) 

My guess would be bug as most teams, including mine, are not affected by this, but until there's a clue what could cause this it's just a guess. I do agree it  starts to look like it's not a driver thing. But then is it team related or, which would be really weird, league connected?
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medal 6792 Super Mod
3 years 205 days ago
Fuel isn't taken into consideration for a qualifying lap.   https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread_3/38232#214674
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medal 5000
3 years 205 days ago
I always give car 1 less fuel in hopes he passes more cars at the start
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medal 5000
3 years 204 days ago

Richard
I always give car 1 less fuel in hopes he passes more cars at the start



Yes lol, the only thing nice about this issue is that you have a faster car charging through the field :)
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medal 5000
3 years 199 days ago (Last edited by Richard Herman 3 years 198 days ago)
Ok the bug may be fixed for me, the last 6 races had car 1 be faster 3 times. But only like twice they were close to each other.
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medal 6792 Super Mod
3 years 199 days ago
I guess it's the new drivers effect. I want to try that next soon.
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medal 5000
3 years 198 days ago

Gustavo
I guess it's the new drivers effect. I want to try that next soon.

Maybe, but the new driver hasn't really had any great qualifying. He only does better when car 2 is a little off.
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medal 5000
3 years 186 days ago
Has this bug already been fixed?
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