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medal 5003 Super Mod
1 year 22 days ago (Last edited by Kevin Bissell 1 year 22 days ago)
I agree and if I were the game owner the league structure would be top of my list of things to fix.

A few months ago I offered a possible solution where Elite would be sub-categorised into three formulas to give the lower level / newer players something to compete for.

https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/51615
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medal 5000
1 year 22 days ago

Kevin
I agree and if I were the game owner the league structure would be top of my list of things to fix.

A few months ago I offered a possible solution where Elite would be sub-categorised into three formulas to give the lower level / newer players something to compete for.

https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/51615



Yeah Kevin, this is a very nice idea, by doing this the game will become more interesting for lower lever and new players. 
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medal 5036
1 year 22 days ago

Kevin
I agree and if I were the game owner the league structure would be top of my list of things to fix.

A few months ago I offered a possible solution where Elite would be sub-categorised into three formulas to give the lower level / newer players something to compete for.

https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/51615



This was a great suggestion, and it's a shame the thread was locked. Even if the dev don't want to make changes at the tiers for now, some good suggestions might have appeared in the discussion.
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medal 5003 Super Mod
1 year 22 days ago
Hi Liam.

It locked because nobody made any further comments.

José said the Owner/Devs are not currently considering any changes to the league structure so I don't think issues with the current tiers will be addressed any time soon. However, seeing as I'm a Mod, I have the ability to unlock the thread which I will do to give people the opportunity to make alternative suggestions.
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medal 5316
1 year 21 days ago
The ultimate scam would not be nerfing a special ability. The ultimate scam WAS the new 10 levels in player's level, driver attributes, DRS, boost.

Many players paid to get the best possible drivers and tech and their investments became useless.

Balancing a new feature is never an ultimate scam because it happens in any game. Players exploit any new feature (poorly designed, or worse, designed unbalanced on purpose) and then it is nerfed.

To be honest I never see a clear direction to game development. It looks like that development is driven by randomness.

Races with wet track are still considered dry races.
Quick race lobby shows the 80% of the real laps for your first stint.
One lap racers are rewarded for just being there.

All of the three above are issues that can be fixed with a single line of code. Why have not been fixed months ago?

Instead we have bugged updates without a logic. How can be balanced a special ability against those who don't have one? It's simply a "pay to win" feature.

I think I will leave the game when I will reach next level and update my HQ. I don't know if for some month or forever. I only know that the new road ahead slicks(-li+u).
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medal 6414
1 year 21 days ago
Kevin
I don't know what the Devs future plans are for Driver skills, but there will be some pretty unhappy people if Racecraft is nerfed any time soon.

Some people have seen the benefit of the skills and have spent real money purchasing tokens in order to get the skill. Remember, 200 tokens is a little over £14.99 GBP per driver. In a two car league we're talking about a £30+ investment to equip both drivers with Legendary racecraft.

If you purchase something you don't expect it to be rendered worthless a few weeks later. That would be the ultimate scam.




But that happens in many games, it's how they get money. They then come out with something else that everyone rushes to buy. 

Basically what you have said is exactly why this game is now pay to win. I have spent the odd cash amount before to speed up progress but won't be spending one penny since the update. I've searched and already seen drivers maxed out, this must of cost them a small fortune just to be better than the rest. Any fool can buy a win, I used to see it when racing in real life, trophy hunters we called them. 
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medal 4922
1 year 21 days ago
Wholly
Kevin
I don't know what the Devs future plans are for Driver skills, but there will be some pretty unhappy people if Racecraft is nerfed any time soon.

Some people have seen the benefit of the skills and have spent real money purchasing tokens in order to get the skill. Remember, 200 tokens is a little over £14.99 GBP per driver. In a two car league we're talking about a £30+ investment to equip both drivers with Legendary racecraft.

If you purchase something you don't expect it to be rendered worthless a few weeks later. That would be the ultimate scam.




But that happens in many games, it's how they get money. They then come out with something else that everyone rushes to buy. 

Basically what you have said is exactly why this game is now pay to win. I have spent the odd cash amount before to speed up progress but won't be spending one penny since the update. I've searched and already seen drivers maxed out, this must of cost them a small fortune just to be better than the rest. Any fool can buy a win, I used to see it when racing in real life, trophy hunters we called them. 

Sorry this is not pay to win.  I know of pay to win games where some players spend over £100k a year.  The small costs in this game help managers to progress a little bit faster (and keep servers running) but they are not game changers.


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medal 6414
1 year 21 days ago
Skid
Sorry this is not pay to win.  I know of pay to win games where some players spend over £100k a year.  The small costs in this game help managers to progress a little bit faster (and keep servers running) but they are not game changers.



Whether someone pays £1 or £100k is irrelevant if paying that money makes you better than the opposition who doesn't spend anything, if it makes you better then your paying to win. If it had zero bearing on performance then people wouldn't do it. 

You have engine manufacturers already that have spent hundreds of tokens maxing out an engine then don't want that available to anyone else, again paying to gain an advantage. I've said before I'd rather pay a yearly subscription so that everyone is equal on level terms. iRacing is exactly like that so everyone is the same and it's down to skill.

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medal 5014
1 year 21 days ago
Wholly
Skid
Sorry this is not pay to win.  I know of pay to win games where some players spend over £100k a year.  The small costs in this game help managers to progress a little bit faster (and keep servers running) but they are not game changers.



Whether someone pays £1 or £100k is irrelevant if paying that money makes you better than the opposition who doesn't spend anything, if it makes you better then your paying to win. If it had zero bearing on performance then people wouldn't do it. 

You have engine manufacturers already that have spent hundreds of tokens maxing out an engine then don't want that available to anyone else, again paying to gain an advantage. I've said before I'd rather pay a yearly subscription so that everyone is equal on level terms. iRacing is exactly like that so everyone is the same and it's down to skill.



I’m with Skid here.


If you think this is a pay 2 win game, then maybe you really have no idea what that means.

A pay 2 win will ensure there are features you can ‘only’ get by ‘paying’. Not possible otherwise.

I know we all like to bash the devs and such, but y’all need to take a step back on the money grab allegations.

Not sure what else you guys want them to do.


You want legendary race craft? You can get it at the market for as low as 1 token fully trained to your current level and without going into details, a driver as low as T20 can compete with. T30.

Hq build time basically remained the same.

If anything, the guys investing right now are the ones getting the wrong end of the stick.

You also mention engines, why should anyone share them? Everyone has the same chances, sit with your device and watch countless ads as well. They did it, why can’t others do it? Btw, thinking custom engines (at the moment) gives an advantage is incorrect.

You all need to give the devs a break.
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medal 5316
1 year 20 days ago (Last edited by Giovanni Caruana 1 year 20 days ago)
Sorry Bi Han, Sub Zero, Archie or whatever you will call yourself next time but I will continue to agree with my opinion.

It's true that no content (except XP boost) is obtained exclusively with real money but the game is going in a pay to win route.

Special abilities should be enabled for each driver regardless of rarity in order to be fair.

It has been designed poorly. We have only 3 or 4 abilities and one of them is clearly stronger than others. I expected a bigger variety: hard tyre specialist, drs specialist, faster with degraded tyres, quicker out lap and so on... At the moment is clear that having THAT ability makes a difference and you must pay 200 tokens.




Furthermore I have personal reasons to be angry because after almost 2 years I was near the end of the ladder and now I am at the middle of it. But these don't count on this discussion.


EDIT: In the end I should lose because my opponent is better than me not because he/she has an higher level or he/she bought every special ability and "whatever you want" boost.
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medal 5014
1 year 20 days ago

Giovanni
Sorry Bi Han, Sub Zero, Archie or whatever you will call yourself next time but I will continue to agree with my opinion.

It's true that no content (except XP boost) is obtained exclusively with real money but the game is going in a pay to win route.

Special abilities should be enabled for each driver regardless of rarity in order to be fair.

It has been designed poorly. We have only 3 or 4 abilities and one of them is clearly stronger than others. I expected a bigger variety: hard tyre specialist, drs specialist, faster with degraded tyres, quicker out lap and so on... At the moment is clear that having THAT ability makes a difference and you must pay 200 tokens.




Furthermore I have personal reasons to be angry because after almost 2 years I was near the end of the ladder and now I am at the middle of it. But these don't count on this discussion.


EDIT: In the end I should lose because my opponent is better than me not because he/she has an higher level or he/she bought every special ability and "whatever you want" boost.



Giovanni or whatever you decide to call yourself, that’s fine I didn’t ask you not to agree with what you want.
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medal 5449
1 year 20 days ago
Cool updates; my level 21 drivers keep losing to level 16 and upwards drivers and manager all season, just because their experience level is low (I think).

And for some random reason one of my drivers performs average in one race and then horribly in the next. Hope I have the time to figure out all these. Kind of demoralizing to keep losing to far lower level teams.
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medal 5025
1 year 20 days ago

Chinedum
Cool updates; my level 21 drivers keep losing to level 16 and upwards drivers and manager all season, just because their experience level is low (I think).

And for some random reason one of my drivers performs average in one race and then horribly in the next. Hope I have the time to figure out all these. Kind of demoralizing to keep losing to far lower level teams.



The issue might be your league.  It looks like you are in an Offline League where some managers  believe it’s ok to be online for races 🤷‍♂️
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medal 6414
1 year 20 days ago
Bi

I’m with Skid here.


If you think this is a pay 2 win game, then maybe you really have no idea what that means.

A pay 2 win will ensure there are features you can ‘only’ get by ‘paying’. Not possible otherwise.

I know we all like to bash the devs and such, but y’all need to take a step back on the money grab allegations.

Not sure what else you guys want them to do.


You want legendary race craft? You can get it at the market for as low as 1 token fully trained to your current level and without going into details, a driver as low as T20 can compete with. T30.

Hq build time basically remained the same.

If anything, the guys investing right now are the ones getting the wrong end of the stick.

You also mention engines, why should anyone share them? Everyone has the same chances, sit with your device and watch countless ads as well. They did it, why can’t others do it? Btw, thinking custom engines (at the moment) gives an advantage is incorrect.

You all need to give the devs a break.


Well I think your a hypocrite then, as looking at your drivers they are all at level 30 apart from experience so that has cost you money. If a talent 20 is as fast as a 30 as you say they are, why did you bother getting a talent 30???.

You have spent cash to gain an advantage to win, I perfectly understand what pay to win means, it's a shame you don't lol.

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medal 5014
1 year 20 days ago

Wholly
Bi

I’m with Skid here.


If you think this is a pay 2 win game, then maybe you really have no idea what that means.

A pay 2 win will ensure there are features you can ‘only’ get by ‘paying’. Not possible otherwise.

I know we all like to bash the devs and such, but y’all need to take a step back on the money grab allegations.

Not sure what else you guys want them to do.


You want legendary race craft? You can get it at the market for as low as 1 token fully trained to your current level and without going into details, a driver as low as T20 can compete with. T30.

Hq build time basically remained the same.

If anything, the guys investing right now are the ones getting the wrong end of the stick.

You also mention engines, why should anyone share them? Everyone has the same chances, sit with your device and watch countless ads as well. They did it, why can’t others do it? Btw, thinking custom engines (at the moment) gives an advantage is incorrect.

You all need to give the devs a break.


Well I think your a hypocrite then, as looking at your drivers they are all at level 30 apart from experience so that has cost you money. If a talent 20 is as fast as a 30 as you say they are, why did you bother getting a talent 30???.

You have spent cash to gain an advantage to win, I perfectly understand what pay to win means, it's a shame you don't lol.



What I do doesn’t take away from what is the fact.


I got T30s because I wanted to and I can. You can keep crying.
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medal 5025
1 year 20 days ago
Wholly
Bi

I’m with Skid here.


If you think this is a pay 2 win game, then maybe you really have no idea what that means.

A pay 2 win will ensure there are features you can ‘only’ get by ‘paying’. Not possible otherwise.

I know we all like to bash the devs and such, but y’all need to take a step back on the money grab allegations.

Not sure what else you guys want them to do.


You want legendary race craft? You can get it at the market for as low as 1 token fully trained to your current level and without going into details, a driver as low as T20 can compete with. T30.

Hq build time basically remained the same.

If anything, the guys investing right now are the ones getting the wrong end of the stick.

You also mention engines, why should anyone share them? Everyone has the same chances, sit with your device and watch countless ads as well. They did it, why can’t others do it? Btw, thinking custom engines (at the moment) gives an advantage is incorrect.

You all need to give the devs a break.


Well I think your a hypocrite then, as looking at your drivers they are all at level 30 apart from experience so that has cost you money. If a talent 20 is as fast as a 30 as you say they are, why did you bother getting a talent 30???.

You have spent cash to gain an advantage to win, I perfectly understand what pay to win means, it's a shame you don't lol.


If you’ve played this game for a long time you will have more than enough tokens and in-game cash to obtain one from your HQ


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medal 5000
1 year 20 days ago
Except that the HQ does not give talent 30, we are a large majority to think that the game is not going in the right direction.

In addition, the token expenditure is enormous in my opinion.
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medal 4922
1 year 20 days ago
Sylvie
Except that the HQ does not give talent 30, we are a large majority to think that the game is not going in the right direction.

In addition, the token expenditure is enormous in my opinion.


Unfortunately it does.  I acquired one via the HQ on my other account yesterday  

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medal 4918 Moderator
1 year 19 days ago
Why unfortunately? The HQ is supposed to give T30 and it does so, for some sooner and for some, making them envying the ones seeing the 5th already, a bit later.
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medal 5025
1 year 19 days ago
Frank
Why unfortunately? The HQ is supposed to give T30 and it does so, for some sooner and for some, making them envying the ones seeing the 5th already, a bit later.



English irony 😎
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