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'New Levels' Update — Release date & details

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medal 4990 Moderator
1 year 95 days ago
Thanks, that one got lost on me, must be more tired than I thought.
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medal 4990 Moderator
1 year 95 days ago

Bi
Frank
It's a tricky thing as both sides have a point. Using a secondary account as customer, especially one never intended to actually use it, generating income (or less loss) and to block others, especially own league, from using the engine is not how the game in general and this feature is meant to be played and thus by definition cheating by using an exploit.

However this game mechanic doesn't work. Having some random, especially inactive, teams clogging up customer slots can't be how it's supposed to be. Forcing an engine manufacturer to take into account that an opponent is allowed to use the engine doesn't really work either. It's too much of a drawback for a manufacturer having to life with the disadvantages during developing the engine and forced to be stuck with it at all times while the non manufacturer can just select the best engine at any time isn't exactly balanced. For the non manufacturer it doesn't really work as the manufacturer can change the engine at any time without notice or costs and I'm pretty sure checking out why fuel in that no-refueling race is off to find that big Acc bonus suddenly became FE is not what a customer is looking for. (Or with lvl 30 and TE the weakness FE instead of reliability/braking).



I'm sorry Frank I totally disagree.


Are you saying offline players are cheaters simply because that's not how the game is meant to be played???

As long as the devs have not put in place a method to accept or reject customers, it's totally absurd to expect a manufacturer to share his/her engines with anyone, especially a league mate.

This is not an exploit but a design flaw and quite frankly find it annoying the blame is being put on the players.

Of course not, as offline play is meant by the game and pure offline while not intended it's not circumventing any game mechanics either. Something different would be using automation scripts and bots running a team semi-offline, though.


I'm also aware I tend to be both more strict in applying those terms than most but also use them more loosely as it doesn't mean I consider it neccessarily unfair or breaking a rule. Some exploits, like to get over design problems, I deem OK and use myself, like those placeholder accounts to keep leagues going, some I think are OK but deny myself the use, like using different accounts to generate and transfer competition drivers. Then there are things I don't think are OK, like secretly using two accounts in the same race to gain an advantage. Using them to block engines I think is borderline OK, as I agree this part of the engine manufacturing doesn't work, but think people were too quick to declare something they don't like a flat out design flaw and justify a grey zone solution despite gaining an advantage, minor as it is, through it. Personally I rate it into OKish but don't do myself category.
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medal 5859 Moderator
1 year 94 days ago

Sylvie
Except that the HQ does not give talent 30, we are a large majority to think that the game is not going in the right direction.



Hello Jean,

You are so wrong...
My account is level 21 and I have 2 T30 drivers in my YDA.

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medal 5758
1 year 94 days ago
I dont like the idea of supplying someone with engines.... it should be my choices whether or not to supply... this is so wrong... i dont mind spending a bit to support u guys but the power to supply my engines should be up to me
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medal 5082
1 year 94 days ago

Hakan
I dont like the idea of supplying someone with engines.... it should be my choices whether or not to supply... this is so wrong... i dont mind spending a bit to support u guys but the power to supply my engines should be up to me



Sharing is caring mate
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medal 5758
1 year 94 days ago

Pas

Hakan
I dont like the idea of supplying someone with engines.... it should be my choices whether or not to supply... this is so wrong... i dont mind spending a bit to support u guys but the power to supply my engines should be up to me



Sharing is caring mate



Yeah thats what i would say if i was stealing someones top engines
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medal 5000
1 year 92 days ago
It's a complete waste of time to discuss a game that goes so wrong and full of contradictions.

It's like taking a human body, putting arms in place of legs and vice versa, switching all your organs around and wanting that body to move and react like a normal one.

This is the IGP currently.

This latest update on drivers and engines shows us that. The idea as a whole is good, but in practice it is full of inconsistencies.
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medal 5233
1 year 80 days ago
well, i hope in the next update will be a significant fix of bug that when you overtake someone, the car will not pass through like there is nothing.
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medal 5000
1 year 76 days ago

Nicholas
well, i hope in the next update will be a significant fix of bug that when you overtake someone, the car will not pass through like there is nothing.



This is not a bug but feature imo
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medal 5586
1 year 55 days ago

Joshua
I wish there were more drs zones to make some races like Singapore more exciting 



Or just, no DRS zones... in order to make overtaking great again.
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medal 5000
1 year 55 days ago

Craig

Joshua
I wish there were more drs zones to make some races like Singapore more exciting 



Or just, no DRS zones... in order to make overtaking great again.

Yeah so much overtaking in wet races 🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♂️


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medal 5411
1 year 51 days ago

Skid

Craig

Joshua
I wish there were more drs zones to make some races like Singapore more exciting 



Or just, no DRS zones... in order to make overtaking great again.

Yeah so much overtaking in wet races 🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♂️





lol Skid, that's what Boost and PL are for :p 

I think all DRS zones need to be included, but the back-marker getting DRS off of a car lapping them should be ditched, as it should be ditched in F1, and a car within 1 second behind another that pits should get DRS. 

Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that DRS should be the same for everyone, rather than levelled up in HQ. Maybe they should email Redbull and tell them this lol. Might be better to put DRS and Boost on the car attribute page instead of in HQ? Negative trait for DRS is downforce, negative trait for Boost is cooling. Maybe 1 attribute point over 100% means that 1 attribute point needs to be used each race to keep it at 101% (for example). I don't actually know the difference in time/speed for each level from say 15 to 20. The other option is that those HQ upgrades are simply open and not based on Manager level. 
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medal 5758
1 year 48 days ago
I know i was a bit sceptical at first when the engine manufacturer option was available and i was one of first to switch, it took a few seasons to get a handle as well as dedicated time to develope them… now i am reaping the rewards as well as my customer teams… the latest update that allows us to accept/delete/reject option is great imho… and i have finally got a handle on tyre performance as well…. Cant wait to be a chassis manufacturer too
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medal 5268
1 year 43 days ago
I recently reached lvl21 but I can only supply to another team apart from myself. Was it not supposed to increase the amount of clients as you leveled up?
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medal 5055 Community Manager
1 year 43 days ago

David
I recently reached lvl21 but I can only supply to another team apart from myself. Was it not supposed to increase the amount of clients as you leveled up?


You start getting new slots for customers at L22.


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medal 5268
1 year 38 days ago

José

David
I recently reached lvl21 but I can only supply to another team apart from myself. Was it not supposed to increase the amount of clients as you leveled up?


You start getting new slots for customers at L22.





Understood. Thanks Jose!
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medal 5411
1 year 38 days ago

José

David
I recently reached lvl21 but I can only supply to another team apart from myself. Was it not supposed to increase the amount of clients as you leveled up?


You start getting new slots for customers at L22.





You get new slots (plural) at level 22? Or do you mean that managers get a slot at lvl 20 and one subsequent slot for every level after until level 30? 


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medal 5758
1 year 37 days ago
You will get a new customer supply slot every time u level up until you reach lvl30... 
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medal 5000
1 year 18 days ago
Ok merci 
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medal 4973
345 days ago
It's great
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