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LIVE: Tyre Performance Update

I and hopefully others agree that there is hardly any difference between Super Softs and Soft tyres. In fact at times soft is quicker. Every race the best tyre overall is soft so far with occasionally SS first stint. I think that SS should be turned up slightly....mediums seem to be more useful than they used to be so that's good....nearly tried them tonight but couldn't afford to gamble....

I have to agree and said it before. In race condition, even when used softs are up again new SS on same fuel the soft is as quick or quicker, even with the ss running in good temp range.

Just finished 100% distance in Japan, 28C

Tried SS, Soft and Medium in the race. An overheating Soft tyre (on PL1 only) is still faster than a Medium with active varying Push Levels (PL1-PL3,PL4)

It's a shame that some 100% races (at the moment) can be run entirely on PL1. More of a KERS race only for those :/

Scaling 100% distances to the 75% old iGP tyres would bring Mediums tyres (and Hards, on hot temp (30c+) tracks) back into play. The Medium tyre is actually very 'driveable', but needs a bit more pace.

I agree that the soft tyre is to fast.

Supersoft is good
Soft is a little to fast
Medium is to slow
Hard is to slow

Soft tyre is like old hard only push lv is difference, all races is almost soft and all pits soft we change strategies from H- H on S-S-S-S I think the key is in push lv and temp over heating tyre to rebalance new changes. Or mayby mix of rubber like on low temp ss-m tyre is best and in high s-h is best choice.

My opinion is the devs have taken away any strategy now. Every races is just softs and maybe super softs at Monaco and Hungary. We raced in 32 degrees last night and 3 stops on softs won easily. Every race so far this season at 100% distance in our league has been 3 stops on softs. At least when hards were the tyre of choice you could out do them with 5-6 short stops on super softs, not anymore. Hard tyres are useless now and mediums cannot compete with softs in any temperatures. It is just all about who has the better car now. 

If the tyres stay as they are then we need more in the way of race strategy.

Downfore and wing is not enough in set up to counter ss tyres.

Why not really make ppl work by taking away the perfect set up.

Make it so that when you do your race set up, you still get lap times but you get no feed back, that way you need to work to get faster lap times, then ppl will prob be on diff set ups giving an offset in speeds.

Then ppl will have to take more time on things and yes after a while ppl will have the best set ups for each track, that then means we need more tracks.

Or to be totally crazy make the set up at each track each season random and using practice laps we might get it or might not,lol

I think if like me most people have the ride height/wing level noted down for each race so taking away ideal setup has no effect...currently as it is. However I do agree that more setup options would be a bonus and once again add more interesting races etc

50% racing league, done belgium and italy. Experience so far is that medium and hards are swapped as the tyre for 1 stop strategies. Training time of SS in italy is only 0,1s faster than soft (24 deg), which indicates that S is the faster tyre. This is confirmed in the race as well. Winning strategy was stop S/M. So far it look like a nice update although the impact for strategy is limited for 50% racing. 

Wim! What was the tyre temps like in Italy on the soft tyres and what push level was M using? 
Italy that I done was 19celsius PL1 S Optimal & PL2 M Optimal just touching the red.

Did monaco earlier on 75% distance and 24 degrees and was racing around on softs for 21laps on pl5 wasnt even heating up. I thought my temp gauge was glitched so logged out and rebooted a few times but was just in the red line.

Temp during race was 25 deg. For S was PL1 already a bit overheating, for M was PL2 optimal. I had another driver on M/M who lagged behind, probably because of the better grid position with S for the first stint leading to more clean air laps. 

I thought we went from Hard to Soft dominance. The last three races of my RUBENS league, Japan Brazil and Abu Dhabi, have won cars that used only the soft ones. With the same number of pit and laps the soft were more performing in Brazil and Abu Dhabi, where there were 33 degrees. I think something should be reset

Sounds ok, Italy can be as high as 34celsius and that will bring H into play and push S out.
Just have to wait around for someone with 26c or 27c telling S was too hot to work with and M was better. :) 

Had 27C in Italy earlier this season (100% race)

Overheating Soft is around 2 secs faster than a Medium (PL1 - PL2,PL3), across a 15 lap stint.

And that's with Soft tyres getting well into the red...about 50% of the way from full red in the tyre temp guage.

It seems most often in 50% races that 1 stopping on Softs is better than any of the alternatives. 

2 stopping softs and 1 stop mediums can run close... but no cigar.

I think hards have been hit a bit too much with this update.

They were made slower, they are also harder to warm up making them slower again and also need more fuel as you need to push more making the car heavier.  Also as you need to push a lot more, this has a larger effect on the engine wear and the amount of parts needed to repair the car.  In my league every race was on hards except a few tracks, for 24 out of 32 cars but since the update no one has touched hards after the first time, except for me trying to find some positives for them.

Not only that but with the reduction in tyre wear having a larger impact on softs and ss, the hards barely make up any time on these tyres as softs (on a 75% race) usually runs the same laps as the hard tyres, and only lose performance on maybe 1-2 laps.

Despite all of the above I do like the update, it makes the game feel new again as I have to re-learn everything.

I agree with you that the softs are the better race tyre now for quite a few tracks, but that doesn't mean that S-S is the only winning strategy now. On high wear tracks I am not sure yet which is the best option. Besides, I won last race in Singapore trying a S-S and a S-S-S strategy (6% wear, like in Australia and GBR). Guess what? S-S-S won, because the 1 stop S fell off the cliff. They were close however.

Soft is the new hard

Haha, thanks Mike